Michael Oliver

Why should Fellaini have been sent off but not Huth? The swinging arm was a reaction to Huth pulling his hair right back. Both should have gone, but the hair pull happened first in United's box, so it's also a United penalty.

I would have thought it would be a yellow (unsporting behaviour).

I actually can't remember anyone getting done for hair pulling before to be honest. Fellaini is asking for it with that ridiculous thing on his head though.
 
The big mistakes was Depay's penalty and Huth vs Fellaini, although I'm not entirely sure that was easy for him to spot. Was it?

What's this about a Rooney sending off? Gif? Never noticed anything like that and it wasn't mentioned by the commentator or in studio. Are you making this up now?
 
The big mistakes was Depay's penalty and Huth vs Fellaini, although I'm not entirely sure that was easy for him to spot. Was it?

What's this about a Rooney sending off? Gif? Never noticed anything like that and it wasn't mentioned by the commentator or in studio. Are you making this up now?

Rooney pulled Grey(?)'s hand when there was some counter for Leicester, kid was running away from Rooney and he just pulled him down. Oliver was pretty close to it all.
 
Rooney pulled Grey(?)'s hand when there was some counter for Leicester, kid was running away from Rooney and he just pulled him down. Oliver was pretty close to it all.
Ah, I saw that. And he was on a yellow? But his booking was an awful decision, was it not? Or was it for verbal abuse and not the actual tackle?
 
Ah, I saw that. And he was on a yellow? But his booking was an awful decision, was it not? Or was it for verbal abuse and not the actual tackle?

Yea, he was on a yellow already. And yes, I think that his yellow was for gobbing back. Oliver's an utter cnut though, only adds to his ineptitude.
 
I would have thought it would be a yellow (unsporting behaviour).

I actually can't remember anyone getting done for hair pulling before to be honest. Fellaini is asking for it with that ridiculous thing on his head though.

He's given yellows to players who tap him on the back, before. He's allowed other to head butt him. You never know with this cnut.
 
I would have thought it would be a yellow (unsporting behaviour).

I actually can't remember anyone getting done for hair pulling before to be honest. Fellaini is asking for it with that ridiculous thing on his head though.

I am struggling to remember any other hair-pulling incidents in general, but it was a fair tug from Huth, and having your hair pulled is a sharp pain, so it's more than just unsporting. You're purposely hurting your opponent. I think it'd be instinctive to swat away someone pulling your hair with a swinging arm. I'm not justifying Fellaini's elbow though, but both should have gone if the referee sees all of it.
 
I am struggling to remember any other hair-pulling incidents in general, but it was a fair tug from Huth, and having your hair pulled is a sharp pain, so it's more than just unsporting. You're purposely hurting your opponent. I think it'd be instinctive to swat away someone pulling your hair with a swinging arm. I'm not justifying Fellaini's elbow though, but both should have gone if the referee sees all of it.
 
Hair pulling like what Huth did should be a straight red card. I don't see it as any different to hitting a player or intentionally hurting them in any other way.
 
I think this player got a red. A bit more severe than Huth's little tug though.

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Only big call he got right today was Leicester's penalty shout. Mahrez ran into Rojo in the first half, so no pen for me. Don't underestimate the influence that this horrible cnut played in repeatedly stopping our momentum by giving Leicester a string of unjustified free kicks. Leicester got back into the game as our momentum was slowed and it wan't until approaching the hour mark before we got three decisions in quick succession from him. Then he denied us a clear penalty when he sent off Drinkwater and inexplicably failed to give us two late corners.
 
The bias here is incredible. Mahrez was a stonewall penalty that every single person here would be begging for if it happened to Martial. Depay should have gotten a penalty but it's a lot easier to see with replay than at game speed from a different angle. Fellaini definitely should have been sent off, the first swing happened even before the hair pull.
 
The bias here is incredible. Mahrez was a stonewall penalty that every single person here would be begging for if it happened to Martial. Depay should have gotten a penalty but it's a lot easier to see with replay than at game speed from a different angle. Fellaini definitely should have been sent off, the first swing happened even before the hair pull.
True. Also Blind and Carrick should have been sent off and Leicester should have had another pen too.
 
The bias here is incredible. Mahrez was a stonewall penalty that every single person here would be begging for if it happened to Martial. Depay should have gotten a penalty but it's a lot easier to see with replay than at game speed from a different angle. Fellaini definitely should have been sent off, the first swing happened even before the hair pull.

Nah he knocks the ball past Rojo and runs straight at him. Just because you're right that people would be crying that we didn't get it doesn't mean that it actually was.
 
Sums it up :lol:

Especially that Hart one, and how he sent for AdM off for infinitely less
Amazing that the FA didn't act over the Hart incident.
 
I don't disagree with Fellaini seeing red, but the pull happened before the swinging arm.
It's ultimately irrelevant when speaking about referee decisions, because both were red card offences. It doesn't matter who did what first.
 
It's ultimately irrelevant when speaking about referee decisions, because both were red card offences. It doesn't matter who did what first.

It would only matter in regards to whether or not it was a penalty, I would imagine. It was in their box which we were attacking. Huth commits the first offence, so it should be penalty in the order of events. If the hair pull had been a reaction to Fellaini's elbow then it's reversed and should have been a free kick to them.

But Oliver saw none of it, so you're right, it is irrelevant. I have a feeling Fellaini will be punished retrospectively but I wouldn't be surprised if Huth isn't. Fellaini has previous, and I don't know how seriously the FA look at hair-pulling.
 
It would only matter in regards to whether or not it was a penalty, I would imagine. It was in their box which we were attacking. Huth commits the first offence, so it should be penalty in the order of events. If the hair pull had been a reaction to Fellaini's elbow then it's reversed and should have been a free kick to them.

But Oliver saw none of it, so you're right, it is irrelevant. I have a feeling Fellaini will be punished retrospectively but I wouldn't be surprised if Huth isn't. Fellaini has previous, and I don't know how seriously the FA look at hair-pulling.

The FA wont care for hair pulling. Fellaini will get banned, correct. Thats how things go, you just cant swing out like that. Nobody cares for hair pulling, most neutrals probably laughed at the sight of Fellaini getting pulled his afro.
 
Depay's was close but I thought Mahrez was a definite pen. Not his fault that we're shite and will have no Champions League footy next season.

Just ran into a stationary Rojo surely. He didn't even appeal!?
 
True, I forgot that it was in the box. Having said that, I don't particularly find it bad refereeing that nothing was done. To me bad refereeing is when the referee clearly sees an incident and makes the wrong call, not when they simply don't see something happening. They won't always be able to see everything that's going on so I can forgive that a lot of the time.

Fellaini will rightly get punished for it, he deserves it and maybe it will teach him a lesson (doubt it though).
 
You didn't see the clear Rooney red card and Leicester penalty in the first half? The only reason United were in the game at the time of the Depay incident was Michael Oliver.

Again, this is nothing more than moany bias. You have a lot more to be thankful for from Oliver than to be angry about. He saved United's bacon today.

*EDIT* Also forgot to mention Fellaini's clear, intentional elbow to the face.

Did you see Rooney's first yellow? So no, he shouldn't have been sent off.

We should have had a pen first, pretty sure pulling someone's hair should lead to a pen.
 
I would have thought it would be a yellow (unsporting behaviour).

I actually can't remember anyone getting done for hair pulling before to be honest. Fellaini is asking for it with that ridiculous thing on his head though.

My other boys are Wycombe Wanderers.
After a bad tempered game v Morecambe a couple of their twats pulled the hair of our dreadlocked midfield Marcus Bean. Both got 3 match bans retro applied.

And that's league 2, so I'd imagine Huth would be hauled up if Fellaini is
 
All round poor performance from him today I think.. Missed a few big calls that be already been picked up in here.

Rojo on Mahrez was a stone wall penalty.
Rooney's foul on gray is a definite yellow, regardless of whether he's already been booked.
Foul on Depay was a penalty, foul started inside, but he had another go well into the area.
Fellaini was very lucky, but he obviously just didn't see that. Huth provoked him, but Fellaini's reaction was out of order.

I used to think he was the best ref in the league, but I've not seen him have a good game for quite a while. Think Clattenburg is quite clearly the number 1 premier league referee now.
 
The bias here is incredible. Mahrez was a stonewall penalty that every single person here would be begging for if it happened to Martial. Depay should have gotten a penalty but it's a lot easier to see with replay than at game speed from a different angle. Fellaini definitely should have been sent off, the first swing happened even before the hair pull.
Fact. The Mahrez one is as much of a stonewaller as you could ever see. Does Rojo who sticks out a leg and brings him down but on here that's not a pen :lol:
 
The Mahrez one wasnt a pen imo, and I dont see how anyone can seriously say its a 'definite' or 'obvious' pen.

Rojo kicked him. Sure it wasn't like he scythed him down or anything but it was clearly a foul.
 
Cannot be given the big games any more. City v United: bottled giving United a penalty and bottled sending Smalling off. Today, he bottled giving Leicester a penalty and he bottled giving United one. Four decisions in two big games that were in real-time and on the replays obvious decisions yet he's avoided all of them.