From what I recall, Mahrez ran straight into Rojo. Although Rojo did extend his leg out, it wasn't his extended leg that brought down Mahrez.
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They were both pens. Rojo kicked up at Mahrez (Mahrez didn't just run into him) and Depay was in the box.
Rooney and Fellaini could easily have been sent off too, and I have no idea how Rojo escaped at least a booking for that two-footed lunge he put in.
Rooney and Fellaini could easily have been sent off too, and I have no idea how Rojo escaped at least a booking for that two-footed lunge he put in.
Pretty much. He had a poor game unfortunately for him and seemed afraid to make the big decisions as others have said. I think the big decisions slightly benefited United more in the end. (Not by any kind of bias, simply coincidence.) I just think anyone who honestly believes that there is/was any kind of agenda against United from this referee is hilariously naive and any true football fan who values dignity and respect will agree with me. He makes decisions wrong.
Neither were penalties.
Rojo didnt move towards him and even pulled his leg away from Mahrez but Mahrez basically fell onto him without even trying to get around.
Our shout im not sure was a foul, but if he gives it it was undoubtedly in the box too.
Either could have gone either way though.
Rojo didnt move towards him and even pulled his leg away from Mahrez but Mahrez basically fell onto him without even trying to get around.
Our shout im not sure was a foul, but if he gives it it was undoubtedly in the box too.
Either could have gone either way though.
Mahrez ran into him, when he didn't have to, Rojo couldn't get out of the way. Excellent decision from the otherwise completely useless Mr Oliver.
When I saw the Rojo /Mahrez collision my reaction was penalty.I have viewed it several times since and have seen nothing to change that view.The Memphis incident was not as clear cut but would have been given more often than not.I believe if he had awarded a pen to Leicester for the Mahrez foul he would have awarded one to us for the Memphis foul.
He couldnt get out of the way but he still left his foot in and even kicked out! Lucky not to give away penalty.
He was bracing himself for impact!
He is definitely a bottler. Seems he tries to bottle it both ways though to make up.
Such a shit ref.
Ah, this thread is one of my favourites. I hate this guy so much.
Usual performance from this cnut today. How he hates us. And how I hate him.
Doesn't even have to be refereeing a United match, I still get mad seeing him on the pitch.
Here we go again...
What? Michael Oliver is useless, that much is common knowledge. It's obviously too easy to blame the ref, but he is fecking shite - that's plain to see.
You'll never see Oliver and 90's TV Sitcom character Mr Brittas in the same room.
The guy just referees a piss poor game of football. And he seems to hate United.
The guy just referees a piss poor game of football. And he seems to hate United.
Nearly all the referees are poor these days. It seems to be a particularly bad season for them. To suggest Oliver hates Man Utd is pretty pathetic though, although I understand the frustrations after such an embarrassing defeat (I'm not trolling, I do understand!).
If not sure give benefit of the doubt to the team playin Man Utd seems to be his plan
It's like Groundhog Day. Or Wednesday, as they call it in Sheffield.
I don't complain for referees, but with Oliver there is something fishy there. Everytime we play, he is always making bad decisions against us. It is like an anti-Atkinson for Chelsea (or an anti-Webb* for United).
* Although on the last few years, because of the pressure, he changed and started being less biased or even biased against us, but for some years he was very pro-United.
As soo as Zlatan, Fellaini, Pogba or Smalling used any strength he gave Watford a free kick, they smash in to any United player he played on
People's claims of that are leftovers from other games he's reffed us in the past 2-3 seasons. Famously he sent of Di Maria for giving him a tap on the shoulder whilst two other players the same season got nothing for practically headbutting him.
I just think he's a poor ref who can't keep control of anything and teams that like to play rough take advantage of that.
Refs always make shit decisions and will continue to make shit decisions. Dominant teams make sure they are clinical enough to erase that uncertainty from the game.
That is why for 20 years people said refs were in United's pocket. Because we did enough on the pitch to make sure we won regardless of terrible decisions the majority of the time.
Now that we're shit, we're finding ourselves at the mercy of poor officiating far more often.
That is why for 20 years people said refs were in United's pocket. Because we did enough on the pitch to make sure we won regardless of terrible decisions the majority of the time.
Now that we're shit, we're finding ourselves at the mercy of poor officiating far more often.
Goblin headed f*ck
This has all stemmed from the ABU's in the media. Some referees are scared of giving us anything, as it will be highlighted and shown over and over again, whereas decisions which go against us generally pass without comment and are not repeated. Some referees, looking at Oliver, Atkinson and Dean, use this as a cover for their United hatred.
In the past, we were good enough to overcome all this, helped by Fergie's iron will. Now, we aren't good enough and a couple of bad decisions can be enough to swing a match against us. With a decent ref, even if we play poorly, we are strong enough to grind something out of a match. Our three defeats this week, poorly as we have played, have all come as a result of appalling decisions going against us. But, that's not something you will see highlighted in the media.
In the past, we were good enough to overcome all this, helped by Fergie's iron will. Now, we aren't good enough and a couple of bad decisions can be enough to swing a match against us. With a decent ref, even if we play poorly, we are strong enough to grind something out of a match. Our three defeats this week, poorly as we have played, have all come as a result of appalling decisions going against us. But, that's not something you will see highlighted in the media.
Can we have a decent ref at some point this season? Thanks.
Not that we wouldn't lose regardless. *Positive thoughts, positive thoughts*
Not that we wouldn't lose regardless. *Positive thoughts, positive thoughts*
Sense. The criticism the ref is getting is probably mainly due to the decision for not awarding a foul on Martial, fair enough it was a foul, but before he was even challenged I was bewildered why he turned back towards his own goal with the ball to put himself in that situation when he had 2 players breaking up the line for him for the counter attack, it was his own fault, there were tons of shit decisions by us today like that all over the pitch.
I think refs are going out of their way to show they do not favour us. We are definitely suffering for all the years of "refs are bent" shite.
Cannot stand this guy. Gutless idiot who should not be anywhere near a PL game.
More annoying than the non-foul on Martial (which I think was a foul but not as clear cut as some are making out) was his absolute refusal to book Watford players for time-wasting. There were countless examples in the game of them kicking the ball away or standing over it and stopping us from playing quickly. Then he then booked Pogba for pushing one of them away yet let the guy time-wasting off with nothing. I can't stand the arrogant little prick, he's the next Mark Clattenburg.
Ah well, as bad as he was today our performance was ten times worse.
Ah well, as bad as he was today our performance was ten times worse.
Get a grip.
You obviously choose to see as much about football as Monsieur Wenger.
I struggle to justify my dislike for referees when our football is absolutely fecking shocking. I can't blame them. Their decisions would bother me more when we were fighting for titles.
I do really dislike Oliver and felt he disrupted the flow of the game by awarding petty free kicks to Watford all game but it's facile blaming him for the result.
Whether or not you think it was a foul on Martial, Mourinho has to start accepting responsibility for these results because we were far from good enough. The most frustrating thing about the last two games is neither Feyenoord or Watford have had to work particularly hard or showcase real moments of quality to beat us. The referee excuses are already wearing thin on me.
Whether or not you think it was a foul on Martial, Mourinho has to start accepting responsibility for these results because we were far from good enough. The most frustrating thing about the last two games is neither Feyenoord or Watford have had to work particularly hard or showcase real moments of quality to beat us. The referee excuses are already wearing thin on me.
Apart from the challenge on Martial, which I thought was a clear foul, I don't think he did much wrong. He kept giving Watford niggly free kicks because United were fouling them out of frustration.
We too got a number of soft free kicks around the edge of the box, and Oliver could have awarded Watford a penalty in the first half, but didn't.
We too got a number of soft free kicks around the edge of the box, and Oliver could have awarded Watford a penalty in the first half, but didn't.
As annoying twat as he is, Clattenburg is far worse
What's this? He did nothing wrong. He's actually one of the better referees in the game.
Are you for real?
Your defeats came about because the other teams played better than you!
City and Watford could easily have been 3 goals up by half time, how is that the fault of the referee?
Says the fan of the team that blamed Howard Webb for every single loss against us.
Refs are not solely to blame for our last two PL defeats. But that doesn't mean they don't have anything to do with them. And those wrong decisions changed those two games.
Should United play better? Yes.
Are the refs bad? Absolutely.
Wow, 20 pages on this cnut.