Teja
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How was he in general apart from the brainfart?
Or.maybe his mistakes or average performances are blown out of proportion. VVD makes mistakes but you don't hear any news. Not saying de ligt has not made mistakes but Ake was equally bad today but you won't hear that. Timber was hardly good but you won't hear much.He generally only has these brainfarts for the national team. So don't get an orange away kit.
Nah, he's had quite a few howlers as an international.Or.maybe his mistakes or average performances are blown out of proportion. VVD makes mistakes but you don't hear any news. Not saying de ligt has not made mistakes but Ake was equally bad today but you won't hear that. Timber was hardly good but you won't hear much.
Not targeting you but this sudden idea that De ligt is some average defender is laughable.
Every player makes mistakes and they are often blown out of proportion. Usually you have team mates that help you make up for the mistakes but for CBs and goalkeepers they are less forgiving.Or.maybe his mistakes or average performances are blown out of proportion. VVD makes mistakes but you don't hear any news. Not saying de ligt has not made mistakes but Ake was equally bad today but you won't hear that. Timber was hardly good but you won't hear much.
Not targeting you but this sudden idea that De ligt is some average defender is laughable.
I got a load of abuse for asking what this meant when he signed. I've seen two in the last two games.
The only thing that should come from this post is banning statman dave. Long overdue
I got a load of abuse for asking what this meant when he signed. I've seen two in the last two games.
Hopefully you're right.He generally only has these brainfarts for the national team. So don't get an orange away kit.
It’s for the club. He’s been bad for the NT since his debut really.I’m sure I only read up last week that he’s never made a mistake leading to a goal in his career. Signs for us and a week later what happens…
I got a load of abuse for asking what this meant when he signed. I've seen two in the last two games.
It’s probably as you imply elsewhere related to negative pressure/negative focus starting already at debut, aggravated by being hyped beyond reason, and not helped by NT football having too few games to ‘get over’ stuff laike that so easily.He generally only has these brainfarts for the national team. So don't get an orange away kit.
I know, just helping people see their double standards.Don’t be this guy, this posting is exactly what you’ve hated people doing with Maguire.
feck me I wish we’d all give our players a fecking break, we make the entire place toxic as feck. The club where a good international cb was turned into a meme, so much so that some believed he was a Championship defender. Now we have posters and fans angry because Anthony didn’t do his touchline warm up how they would prefer. It’s all so tiresome.
They’ll all make mistakes, every last one, just like WC, CA winner & FA cup difference maker Martinez v Liverpool. Don’t spend so much time on the microanalysis people.
I know, just helping people see their double standards.
What he's doing is far worse. De Ligt has started one game for us.Don’t be this guy, this posting is exactly what you’ve hated people doing with Maguire.
Make no mistake, he will be the first in this thread after a De Ligt error because he wants to be right on the internet.What he's doing is far worse. De Ligt has started one game for us.
I know, just helping people see their double standards.
He made an error and I wasn't.Make no mistake, he will be the first in this thread after a De Ligt error because he wants to be right on the internet.
What he's doing is far worse. De Ligt has started one game for us.
Make no mistake, he will be the first in this thread after a De Ligt error because he wants to be right on the internet.
Correct.'I don't like the way the fanbase treats one of our players so I'm gonna do the exact same thing to a different one of our players to highlight that.'
Flawless logic.
Yeah I don't know why there was the need to be posting clips.You’re right of course, but everyone gets excited at a new signing and it won’t take United fans long to completely turn on De Ligt and make him a meme also, we certainly don’t need to fuel that.
Would be a rather quiet place then. Maybe you can offer a course in using stats? udemy? Webinar? Might be worth a shot. I am sure, many on here look up to some posters and strive to be like them. Hell, even me from time to time.I’d rather ban people who struggle to contextualise stats. An infinitely better solution for redcafe.
De Ligt was really REALLY great at Ajax.
But i think the media hyped him up too much. At such an early age.
The pressure must have been unbearable.
After Ajax it only went downhill.
Don't think he's any better than Maquire at the moment.
But lets hope ETH can get the best out of him.
He probably could’ve done better, but there were plenty of other defensive errors evident in that goal he’s being ridiculed for.
That was like a United goal. Van Dijk doing a great Martinez impression with the full back and winger fast asleep.
I’m not saying he made a mistake as such, but a dominant defender probably does sweep up the initial ball in.De Ligt's mistake wasn't even a defensive one for Germany's first goal. It was just a misplaced pass in the build-up that led to Germany gaining possession and then scoring, if I'm not mistaken?
For the second goal, which is the one I think you are talking about, there's absolutely no way you can blame him, at all. He didn't make a mistake there. Arguably, maybe van Dijk could've been a bit more aware of his surroundings, but that goal is mostly on Timber and especially the player next to him that just let the German player roam free into the box and didn't even try to close him down.
I only partly agree. He had two howlers, eerily similar passes of the type that Maguire had regularily when he was down on confidence. Apart from that, his passing was tidy and precise. He also had some very good passes through the lines, a couple of which led to very good counters.De Ligt’s passing was poor, even before the mistake. He can do much better. In his Ajax days he would dribble with the ball a lot more, which suited him.
Tah on the other side, his replacement at Bayern, had an absolute nightmare and is lucky not to be red carded.
While I don’t want to trash him, as he’s a good yet not great player, I agree with the general notion. If he wasn’t that player that once was so promising at Ajax and hadn’t this likeable attitude towards the game, he’d be under much more scrutiny. At least I think that’s what happened at Bayern. His performances never merited his status.He's lucky he's got his hipster cloak of protection, if that's Maguire he's getting pelters.
But Maguire makes plenty of mistakes as well so I'd start De Ligt and see how he goes after a run of games in the team.He had had a poor run of games to the point that Koeman felt he had to take him off after 45 min for his own sake and the sake of the team. We can give out about Koeman's treatment of him all we like but his only concern is doing best for the Dutch national team and he obviously felt that was best served by benching De Ligt.
Another big decision for ETH on Saturday , does he start him over Maguire. If he does and De Ligt puts in another poor performance , ETH gets in the neck for starting a player who was obviously out of sorts all week.