Just make Antony captain. Cant be worse than what he already is.
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The manager is lost. And has no fecking idea what he is doing to be honest. He drops certain players for bad performances and than keeps on playing players like Bruno, Onana, Rashford when they have been stinking up the place for much longer.
Onana's been good this season
Absolutely. On the other hand, is there a more difficult captaincy role in global football than post SAF ManUtd?
I hope MdL will take the role and finally bring back leadership and stability. I do not see many more suited players character-wise tbh. An other strong contender would have been Harry Kane but that ship has sailed.
Yes he has I agree, but last season he was abysmal and kept on playing.
It really is peak RedCafe.
Saw someone suggest Maguire and Evans should be the starting CB pair.....
Yes.. that's Leicester's CB pairing from feck knows how long ago.
De Ligt and Martinez need games and time to develop and build their relationship and understanding of each other.
Not the best start - but I’ll wait for the team to have a semblance of structure before writing him off completely.
In his recent games there was next to no midfield, so he has opposition attackers running freely 1v1 at him every single time - which is not his strength.
He would’ve looked good in the low block yesterday as that plays to his strengths.
Useful squad player at worst - at least the fee was fairly reasonable
In his recent games there was next to no midfield, so he has opposition attackers running freely 1v1 at him every single time - which is not his strength.
He would’ve looked good in the low block yesterday as that plays to his strengths.
Useful squad player at worst - at least the fee was fairly reasonable
So why are other defenders with "not enough acceleration" etc. excelling at other clubs and are considered to be top defenders?
It's just an agenda based on casuals thinking you need to be fast in order to play in a high defensive line in today's game.
And sorry but no, Maguire was always abused and memed even before the nightmare season of 21/22.
I've never changed my opinion on him. He's always been elite and I never claimed otherwise.
I don't think the people who think he was Championship quality are the ones saying he's our best defender now.
Neither have I. Didn't want him when Jose wanted him and always thought he was bang average.
Yeah but he isn't
To you, maybe. To me, he absolutely is.
So you did not see the headed goal against Porto to get the team out of trouble...I know it was ages ago
So you rate a player on what he does in one match? What he does in other matches doesnt matter anymore?
Harry Maguire has scored headers and not all his defensive headers end up at opponents. That doesnt mean that a large part of his headers wont trouble the goalkeeper or wont end up in opponents their feet.
This is actually a myth, by the way. Our line was higher under Ole than at any point under Ten Hag. And under Ten Hag, the player with whom our line is highest is also Maguire.
And with Varane, we always played one of the deepest lines in the league under ETH. But but but Varane has pace and Maguire doesn't
This.
Dropped Rashford on Thursday? For what ?
If you feel your players are not playing good .. give them cover .. like we did against Villa .. play defensive..
There are so many games that City/ Arsenal win 1-0..
Change tactics so teams do not follow the same template to beat us ..
Every team can beat us .. so we have to change tactics ..
From the site being used to measure our defensive line the other day. Compared to United under Ole -
Varane was playing in a defensive line with a similar height at Madrid.
De Ligt played in a higher defensive line at both Juve and Bayern.
Varane was playing in a defensive line with a similar height at Madrid.
De Ligt played in a higher defensive line at both Juve and Bayern.
Which actually proves the point. High lines come from manager set up, not players.
It will be interesting to see who starts under our next manager. Whether it's Martinez, Yoro, De Ligt or Maguire I do think we have a decent selection of CBs. The much bigger worry is midfield. No legs whatsoever. I wonder if Tuchel (if it is him) compensates with a back 3.
Harry was the most abused footballer since Jones, almost no player can survive it mentally. Nevertheless, he played superb before and after that time. I come from politics, it was an obvious shot at Harry by someone with funds. After few mistakes it got larger and larger untill the player loses all confident and with that loses touch and then it's easy to feed him to the sharks. De Ligt isn't batter then Harry. In his first few games he did as many mistakes as possible, lacks positioning, isn't focused, he gives you the felling that he's gonna let a goal in. He outshining or at least equaled Harry's underperformance at the time and in a very short time. He was brought because ETH losing control and favor in the dressing room.
so are you suggesting that Varane is as slow as Maguire or Maguire is as quick as Varane? Because neither is true.
No, I'm suggesting that pace is far from the only thing you need in order to be able to play in a high defensive line. As we've seen in several cases, it's not even that important when you have the correct profiles around you.
I'm saying that despite having decent recovery pace, Varane struggled in the high line.
On the other hand, despite being slower than your average defender, Maguire has been excellent in the high line, and has actually been one of the players that enabled United under Ole, to play in a high line.
Thus far he's had 2/3 solid games and two back to back poor games...You can understand why he was dropped for Maguire/Evans yesterday.
When he came on he was decent alongside Evans albeit in a much deeper defensive line.
Jury is still out for me. It's still early days though, once he adjusts to the intensity of the Premier League hopefully he'll then fulfill his potential and become the dominant CB he has always prmoised to be
When he came on he was decent alongside Evans albeit in a much deeper defensive line.
Jury is still out for me. It's still early days though, once he adjusts to the intensity of the Premier League hopefully he'll then fulfill his potential and become the dominant CB he has always prmoised to be
Indeed, it's not always about the individual player.
On paper yeah, but it's been a while since I felt we translated well from that to on the pitch
He is a threat in corners, freekicks .. .just for that reason I would have him in the team...
Now I presume you either do not have access to international matches or you just do not watch England so have a look at this;
If that is not enough then just google Harry Maguire goals for Utd and then hopefully it will sink in that he knows what he is doing with his melon.
Can you let me know where you have this data from?
I genuinely cannot remember a game with Maguire starting in which we successfully played a highline - if, it must have been with Varane or more likely Licha that had playmaking role. De Ligt has impressed during his first appearances and then his level dropped, but I truly think he is tactically much more versatile than Maguire. I do really rate Harry with a lower line though.
Man Utd 2:1 Brentford
Love him.
Thought he had a very good game today, very aggressive in getting tackles in and made some good interceptions.
Did also headbutt someone in the knee
Did also headbutt someone in the knee
Man of the match for me
Headbutting peoples knees doesn't do much for the Dutch Harry Maguire comparisons.
Best game for us today... brave, quick and intelligent.
Majestic second half. This guy is going to be epic for us. I really believe that.
Excellent today and real captain material for me, still needs to settle with a preferred partner weather that is Yoro or Martinez we’ll have to wait and see. I think it might be Yoro with Martinez first choice back up CB and getting plenty of games at LB.
Solid today. There's a good player in there somewhere. Just needs to cut out the silly mistakes. Hopefully, he can build a partnership with the quicker more agile Yoro when he comes back.
Should be captain.
Was awesome.
Was awesome.
More Phil Jones than Harry Maguire. De Ligt and Jones are brave/stupid enough to headbutt someone their knee, Harry Maguire wont be headbutting knees.
Can't wait to see him with Yoro
It'll cost us sometimes, but in general I like his aggression.
In the most loving and respectful way possible I think hes more the Dutch good Phil Jones from 14/15 where he was fit and dominant. Looked fairly quick across the ground today