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Play him in the cups and rest him in the league. Surely he's got to be thinking there's a chance for him to show what he can do in the FA Cup and the Europa. That's basically our season now.
Is he back fit?
 
Easy to forget he exists.
I genuinely did. Saw this thread bumped and though; "Oh yeah, him..."

We've spent more money on underperformers but he feels like the worst transfer we've made. £60 million for a player with a year left on his contract, he comes here and is essentially finished as a footballer.
 
i suppose this has been said enough, but 300 million on Mount, Sancho, Antony, Hojlund must be the worst money ever spent in football. In that short time span we've shied away from 'big money deals' on more complete players out of fear of making a costly mistake, only to continue to make them. Grealish and Rice for example were absurd fees, but had we spent 200m on them wed be far better off. Mount was a truly awful piece of business
 
Has he had any run of games with us yet? I can't remember him even starting 2 in a row. Maybe he'll be a revelation is he ever makes it out of hospital.
 
i suppose this has been said enough, but 300 million on Mount, Sancho, Antony, Hojlund must be the worst money ever spent in football. In that short time span we've shied away from 'big money deals' on more complete players out of fear of making a costly mistake, only to continue to make them. Grealish and Rice for example were absurd fees, but had we spent 200m on them wed be far better off. Mount was a truly awful piece of business

Grealish fits on that list
 
The sad fact is, we'd actually get more out of resigning Pogba than we would out of Mount recovering from injury.
 
Ruben Amorim came with a big backroom staff. Several off them occupied with physical fitness. One of their big tasks should be to get Mount back on his feet.

If there was a chance he could play somewhere close 70-80 min a week next season there is a chance we could get a fee for him in the summer of 2026. He will be 27 by then. His book value around £20-25 mill.
 
Ruben Amorim came with a big backroom staff. Several off them occupied with physical fitness. One of their big tasks should be to get Mount back on his feet.

If there was a chance he could play somewhere close 70-80 min a week next season there is a chance we could get a fee for him in the summer of 2026. He will be 27 by then. His book value around £20-25 mill.

How can any medical practitioner fix broken bodies?
 
There really needs to be something built into contracts to protect clubs against this kind of situation.

We paid 55 million for a player who doesn't seem capable of being fit for a single game. If he had a decent bone in his body he'd offer to take a percentage of his contract, there are families struggling in this country and the likes of Mount and Shaw can earn multi millions for absolutely nothing.

It's totally wrong, we should be able to terminate his contract for free and reclaim some of the fee. Something in the game needs to change drastically because Chelsea knew full well what they were doing selling this crock.
 
There really needs to be something built into contracts to protect clubs against this kind of situation.

We paid 55 million for a player who doesn't seem capable of being fit for a single game. If he had a decent bone in his body he'd offer to take a percentage of his contract, there are families struggling in this country and the likes of Mount and Shaw can earn multi millions for absolutely nothing.

It's totally wrong, we should be able to terminate his contract for free and reclaim some of the fee. Something in the game needs to change drastically because Chelsea knew full well what they were doing selling this crock.
Yes the big companies worth billions around the world should be able to go back on the contracts they gave and cast aside their employees like trash. That's the world we want to live in, where the billionaires and companies hold ALL the power
 
i suppose this has been said enough, but 300 million on Mount, Sancho, Antony, Hojlund must be the worst money ever spent in football. In that short time span we've shied away from 'big money deals' on more complete players out of fear of making a costly mistake, only to continue to make them. Grealish and Rice for example were absurd fees, but had we spent 200m on them wed be far better off. Mount was a truly awful piece of business

On the face of it, Mount should be been a winning move. Success in the league and Champions League. Who could have predicted this awful run of injuries. I don't recall him having anything close to them at Chelsea.

The other three were insane spends from the get go. That's still the majority of that $300 mil though
 
On the face of it, Mount should be been a winning move. Success in the league and Champions League. Who could have predicted this awful run of injuries. I don't recall him having anything close to them at Chelsea.

The other three were insane spends from the get go. That's still the majority of that $300 mil though
Lots of us predicted that he was already a walking sick note. So it has proved.
 
Lots of us predicted that he was already a walking sick note. So it has proved.
Was it a guess or did he have that kind of injury record? I never looked it up, just always recall him.playing when I tuned into one of their matches
 
Was it a guess or did he have that kind of injury record? I never looked it up, just always recall him.playing when I tuned into one of their matches
Not a guess, but a concern that he was heading in that direction, number of injuries had rapidly increased in his last year or two at Chelsea. It wasn't a sure thing, but there was that concern. Still, knowing our physio team's record they'd have injured him when he arrived anyway.
 
saw the bump and thought there might be some positive news.

Is he even training with squad?

the radio silence on injuries is infuriating at times
 
There really needs to be something built into contracts to protect clubs against this kind of situation.

We paid 55 million for a player who doesn't seem capable of being fit for a single game. If he had a decent bone in his body he'd offer to take a percentage of his contract, there are families struggling in this country and the likes of Mount and Shaw can earn multi millions for absolutely nothing.

It's totally wrong, we should be able to terminate his contract for free and reclaim some of the fee. Something in the game needs to change drastically because Chelsea knew full well what they were doing selling this crock.
That’s what the fecking medical is for.
 
Yes the big companies worth billions around the world should be able to go back on the contracts they gave and cast aside their employees like trash. That's the world we want to live in, where the billionaires and companies hold ALL the power
Yep, I don’t agree with that posters opinion either. On the signing, it almost feels like we’re unique in this situation - signing so many sick notes (Jones, Shaw, Mount) but just thinking about Liverpool as an example - didn’t they have Nabi Keita, Thiago & now Chiesa who are all such sick notes as well? I even recall Gomez being a bit injury prone and Jota. Maybe it’s just a part of football most clubs struggle with or are we just unlucky?

Anyway, I’ve got a lot of empathy for these footballers who just can’t rely on the bodies. Probably more empathy than most reading by this thread. I get agitated (borderline upset) if I get a slight injury playing 4th division amateur football - and I’m turning 41 in a couple months. I can only imagine the effect it has on anyone else who love the game and just can’t get a run of games going.
 
Not a guess, but a concern that he was heading in that direction, number of injuries had rapidly increased in his last year or two at Chelsea. It wasn't a sure thing, but there was that concern. Still, knowing our physio team's record they'd have injured him when he arrived anyway.
Oof. I wonder if we get any better at predicting with the AI models now
 
Yes the big companies worth billions around the world should be able to go back on the contracts they gave and cast aside their employees like trash. That's the world we want to live in, where the billionaires and companies hold ALL the power
Football is a completely different business though isn't it. If I two footed tackled a work colleague and then grabbed him by the throat I'd be sacked from my job. Football you can do just that..

Contracts for footballers shouldn't be considered the same as a regular employees contract. The figures involved and the fact I could sign a Football contract and never play through choice and still paid make it ridiculous. Some of these players aren't as injured as we are lead to believe. Mount walked off that pitch in December and didn't even look in discomfort.
 
Football is a completely different business though isn't it. If I two footed tackled a work colleague and then grabbed him by the throat I'd be sacked from my job. Football you can do just that..

Contracts for footballers shouldn't be considered the same as a regular employees contract. The figures involved and the fact I could sign a Football contract and never play through choice and still paid make it ridiculous. Some of these players aren't as injured as we are lead to believe. Mount walked off that pitch in December and didn't even look in discomfort.
They’ll just go somewhere else and get that contract. Contract terms are the same as wages, they’re ridiculously good because the market has judged them to warrant those terms.
 
55m for a player on his last year of contract and add to that a hefty 250k a week it's truly a shocking transfer.
 
i suppose this has been said enough, but 300 million on Mount, Sancho, Antony, Hojlund must be the worst money ever spent in football. In that short time span we've shied away from 'big money deals' on more complete players out of fear of making a costly mistake, only to continue to make them. Grealish and Rice for example were absurd fees, but had we spent 200m on them wed be far better off. Mount was a truly awful piece of business

How can you forget Onana?
 
Yep, I don’t agree with that posters opinion either. On the signing, it almost feels like we’re unique in this situation - signing so many sick notes (Jones, Shaw, Mount) but just thinking about Liverpool as an example - didn’t they have Nabi Keita, Thiago & now Chiesa who are all such sick notes as well? I even recall Gomez being a bit injury prone and Jota. Maybe it’s just a part of football most clubs struggle with or are we just unlucky?

Anyway, I’ve got a lot of empathy for these footballers who just can’t rely on the bodies. Probably more empathy than most reading by this thread. I get agitated (borderline upset) if I get a slight injury playing 4th division amateur football - and I’m turning 41 in a couple months. I can only imagine the effect it has on anyone else who love the game and just can’t get a run of games going.
Yeah same. I'm someone whose struggled with injuries since I was 17 or so, here I am at 31 still signing up for multiple leagues and getting injured every season. It's frustrating as hell and as a player you think you are doing all you can but sometimes your body just doesn't work the way you want. These guys aren't fit enough for the prem anymore, we need to recruit better and avoid the sick notes, but I have a load of sympathy for them and it's not a lack of professionalism, they aren't lazy, and they don't deserve abuse. Just a shit situation.
 
Football is a completely different business though isn't it. If I two footed tackled a work colleague and then grabbed him by the throat I'd be sacked from my job. Football you can do just that..

Contracts for footballers shouldn't be considered the same as a regular employees contract. The figures involved and the fact I could sign a Football contract and never play through choice and still paid make it ridiculous. Some of these players aren't as injured as we are lead to believe. Mount walked off that pitch in December and didn't even look in discomfort.
The figures involved are only figures for the top 0.01%. If they had it your way, you would toss aside loads of lower level professionals and cut their contracts because of an injury they obtained while working for that club. It's disgusting logic and a complete lack of empathy and human understanding. Just because you support United doesn't mean it's fine to throw away standard human rights so the billionaire club we support can save a bit of cash.
 
Saw the bump in this thread after seeing a highlight reel of Conor Gallagher’s latest performance for Atletico.

loved him that season he played for Palace.

Hindsight is 20/20 but he would have been a brilliant signing compared to what we have gotten from Mount.
 
Yep. The drop off in minutes as soon as he signed for us is insane.

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It's like he got run over by a bus.
On average 35minutes per game, started 42% of the games he was involved in. Essentially he is a squad player which we got for 55mil and pay 250k pw. Great deal Murtogh
 
Not a guess, but a concern that he was heading in that direction, number of injuries had rapidly increased in his last year or two at Chelsea. It wasn't a sure thing, but there was that concern. Still, knowing our physio team's record they'd have injured him when he arrived anyway.
That's strongly exaggerated. He was in Chelsea's first team for four years, and he basically didn't get injured at all in that time until the final three months when he had one pelvic injury. He took a month off, tried to come back but then had to go off for surgery as it wasn't healing.

Buying him on the back of that surgery does carry some risk of course, but he wasn't suffering a 'rapidly increasing amount of injuries in his last year or two'. It was four years of almost perfect fitness followed by one fairly serious injury. Unfortunately that one injury (or the surgery that it required) seems to have resulted in the absolutely worst-case scenario and destroyed him physically.

The better question is whether pelvic injuries and surgeries do carry a significantly higher risk of creating long term injury problems? Or if there was something unique about this one that the medical should have picked up? If either of those are true, then that's definitely something to hold against the club. But if not, then we've just been incredibly unlucky as the vast majority of injuries and surgeries don't result in anything like this.
 
Yeah same. I'm someone whose struggled with injuries since I was 17 or so, here I am at 31 still signing up for multiple leagues and getting injured every season. It's frustrating as hell and as a player you think you are doing all you can but sometimes your body just doesn't work the way you want. These guys aren't fit enough for the prem anymore, we need to recruit better and avoid the sick notes, but I have a load of sympathy for them and it's not a lack of professionalism, they aren't lazy, and they don't deserve abuse. Just a shit situation.
Yeah agreed and good luck with the injuries bud. Keep at it.