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Is he back fit?Play him in the cups and rest him in the league. Surely he's got to be thinking there's a chance for him to show what he can do in the FA Cup and the Europa. That's basically our season now.
Is he back fit?Play him in the cups and rest him in the league. Surely he's got to be thinking there's a chance for him to show what he can do in the FA Cup and the Europa. That's basically our season now.
I genuinely did. Saw this thread bumped and though; "Oh yeah, him..."Easy to forget he exists.
i suppose this has been said enough, but 300 million on Mount, Sancho, Antony, Hojlund must be the worst money ever spent in football. In that short time span we've shied away from 'big money deals' on more complete players out of fear of making a costly mistake, only to continue to make them. Grealish and Rice for example were absurd fees, but had we spent 200m on them wed be far better off. Mount was a truly awful piece of business
Grealish fits on that list
Easy to forget he exists.
Ruben Amorim came with a big backroom staff. Several off them occupied with physical fitness. One of their big tasks should be to get Mount back on his feet.
If there was a chance he could play somewhere close 70-80 min a week next season there is a chance we could get a fee for him in the summer of 2026. He will be 27 by then. His book value around £20-25 mill.
I’ll be honest, I’m surprised it’s that many. I’d have guessed 6-8 if you’d have asked me to guess before I read that
No chance.Hope the Inter rumors are true
Yes the big companies worth billions around the world should be able to go back on the contracts they gave and cast aside their employees like trash. That's the world we want to live in, where the billionaires and companies hold ALL the powerThere really needs to be something built into contracts to protect clubs against this kind of situation.
We paid 55 million for a player who doesn't seem capable of being fit for a single game. If he had a decent bone in his body he'd offer to take a percentage of his contract, there are families struggling in this country and the likes of Mount and Shaw can earn multi millions for absolutely nothing.
It's totally wrong, we should be able to terminate his contract for free and reclaim some of the fee. Something in the game needs to change drastically because Chelsea knew full well what they were doing selling this crock.
No we wouldn't.The sad fact is, we'd actually get more out of resigning Pogba than we would out of Mount recovering from injury.
i suppose this has been said enough, but 300 million on Mount, Sancho, Antony, Hojlund must be the worst money ever spent in football. In that short time span we've shied away from 'big money deals' on more complete players out of fear of making a costly mistake, only to continue to make them. Grealish and Rice for example were absurd fees, but had we spent 200m on them wed be far better off. Mount was a truly awful piece of business
Lots of us predicted that he was already a walking sick note. So it has proved.On the face of it, Mount should be been a winning move. Success in the league and Champions League. Who could have predicted this awful run of injuries. I don't recall him having anything close to them at Chelsea.
The other three were insane spends from the get go. That's still the majority of that $300 mil though
Was it a guess or did he have that kind of injury record? I never looked it up, just always recall him.playing when I tuned into one of their matchesLots of us predicted that he was already a walking sick note. So it has proved.
Not a guess, but a concern that he was heading in that direction, number of injuries had rapidly increased in his last year or two at Chelsea. It wasn't a sure thing, but there was that concern. Still, knowing our physio team's record they'd have injured him when he arrived anyway.Was it a guess or did he have that kind of injury record? I never looked it up, just always recall him.playing when I tuned into one of their matches
That’s what the fecking medical is for.There really needs to be something built into contracts to protect clubs against this kind of situation.
We paid 55 million for a player who doesn't seem capable of being fit for a single game. If he had a decent bone in his body he'd offer to take a percentage of his contract, there are families struggling in this country and the likes of Mount and Shaw can earn multi millions for absolutely nothing.
It's totally wrong, we should be able to terminate his contract for free and reclaim some of the fee. Something in the game needs to change drastically because Chelsea knew full well what they were doing selling this crock.
Yep, I don’t agree with that posters opinion either. On the signing, it almost feels like we’re unique in this situation - signing so many sick notes (Jones, Shaw, Mount) but just thinking about Liverpool as an example - didn’t they have Nabi Keita, Thiago & now Chiesa who are all such sick notes as well? I even recall Gomez being a bit injury prone and Jota. Maybe it’s just a part of football most clubs struggle with or are we just unlucky?Yes the big companies worth billions around the world should be able to go back on the contracts they gave and cast aside their employees like trash. That's the world we want to live in, where the billionaires and companies hold ALL the power
Oof. I wonder if we get any better at predicting with the AI models nowNot a guess, but a concern that he was heading in that direction, number of injuries had rapidly increased in his last year or two at Chelsea. It wasn't a sure thing, but there was that concern. Still, knowing our physio team's record they'd have injured him when he arrived anyway.
Football is a completely different business though isn't it. If I two footed tackled a work colleague and then grabbed him by the throat I'd be sacked from my job. Football you can do just that..Yes the big companies worth billions around the world should be able to go back on the contracts they gave and cast aside their employees like trash. That's the world we want to live in, where the billionaires and companies hold ALL the power
They’ll just go somewhere else and get that contract. Contract terms are the same as wages, they’re ridiculously good because the market has judged them to warrant those terms.Football is a completely different business though isn't it. If I two footed tackled a work colleague and then grabbed him by the throat I'd be sacked from my job. Football you can do just that..
Contracts for footballers shouldn't be considered the same as a regular employees contract. The figures involved and the fact I could sign a Football contract and never play through choice and still paid make it ridiculous. Some of these players aren't as injured as we are lead to believe. Mount walked off that pitch in December and didn't even look in discomfort.
You don't speak like a fanNo we wouldn't.
i suppose this has been said enough, but 300 million on Mount, Sancho, Antony, Hojlund must be the worst money ever spent in football. In that short time span we've shied away from 'big money deals' on more complete players out of fear of making a costly mistake, only to continue to make them. Grealish and Rice for example were absurd fees, but had we spent 200m on them wed be far better off. Mount was a truly awful piece of business
Of Pogba? Ha, yeah I called him out back when everyone still loved him. A mod didn't like my views and gave me the tag, hey ho.You don't speak like a fan
Last time he played full 90 minutes minutes he was in a Chelsea shirt
Yeah same. I'm someone whose struggled with injuries since I was 17 or so, here I am at 31 still signing up for multiple leagues and getting injured every season. It's frustrating as hell and as a player you think you are doing all you can but sometimes your body just doesn't work the way you want. These guys aren't fit enough for the prem anymore, we need to recruit better and avoid the sick notes, but I have a load of sympathy for them and it's not a lack of professionalism, they aren't lazy, and they don't deserve abuse. Just a shit situation.Yep, I don’t agree with that posters opinion either. On the signing, it almost feels like we’re unique in this situation - signing so many sick notes (Jones, Shaw, Mount) but just thinking about Liverpool as an example - didn’t they have Nabi Keita, Thiago & now Chiesa who are all such sick notes as well? I even recall Gomez being a bit injury prone and Jota. Maybe it’s just a part of football most clubs struggle with or are we just unlucky?
Anyway, I’ve got a lot of empathy for these footballers who just can’t rely on the bodies. Probably more empathy than most reading by this thread. I get agitated (borderline upset) if I get a slight injury playing 4th division amateur football - and I’m turning 41 in a couple months. I can only imagine the effect it has on anyone else who love the game and just can’t get a run of games going.
The figures involved are only figures for the top 0.01%. If they had it your way, you would toss aside loads of lower level professionals and cut their contracts because of an injury they obtained while working for that club. It's disgusting logic and a complete lack of empathy and human understanding. Just because you support United doesn't mean it's fine to throw away standard human rights so the billionaire club we support can save a bit of cash.Football is a completely different business though isn't it. If I two footed tackled a work colleague and then grabbed him by the throat I'd be sacked from my job. Football you can do just that..
Contracts for footballers shouldn't be considered the same as a regular employees contract. The figures involved and the fact I could sign a Football contract and never play through choice and still paid make it ridiculous. Some of these players aren't as injured as we are lead to believe. Mount walked off that pitch in December and didn't even look in discomfort.
On average 35minutes per game, started 42% of the games he was involved in. Essentially he is a squad player which we got for 55mil and pay 250k pw. Great deal MurtoghYep. The drop off in minutes as soon as he signed for us is insane.
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It's like he got run over by a bus.
That's strongly exaggerated. He was in Chelsea's first team for four years, and he basically didn't get injured at all in that time until the final three months when he had one pelvic injury. He took a month off, tried to come back but then had to go off for surgery as it wasn't healing.Not a guess, but a concern that he was heading in that direction, number of injuries had rapidly increased in his last year or two at Chelsea. It wasn't a sure thing, but there was that concern. Still, knowing our physio team's record they'd have injured him when he arrived anyway.
Yeah agreed and good luck with the injuries bud. Keep at it.Yeah same. I'm someone whose struggled with injuries since I was 17 or so, here I am at 31 still signing up for multiple leagues and getting injured every season. It's frustrating as hell and as a player you think you are doing all you can but sometimes your body just doesn't work the way you want. These guys aren't fit enough for the prem anymore, we need to recruit better and avoid the sick notes, but I have a load of sympathy for them and it's not a lack of professionalism, they aren't lazy, and they don't deserve abuse. Just a shit situation.