Marcus Rashford and his critics | Now includes fashion and hobby critics

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All 17 pages? Not really.

Obviously, Rashford dressing a certain way doesn’t impact his performances, but i don’t really see why it’s a problem that people react to what they perceive to be an overall attitude problem.
Do you think his dress sense is relevant to his attitude, then?
 
If Rashford performed like Vinicius, no one will care what he is doing, what he is wearing and where he is...
The problem is...Rashford's performance on pitch....

Maybe focus commentary to his performances on the pitch and and behaviours which could effect that?

Enjoying a day off is something we're all entitled to do, regardless of whether work has gone well or not. Turning up late because of overindulging is obviously different.

Who cares how he chooses to dress?
 
Well I have to admire the restraint and professionalism you have displayed in this entirely fictional scenario. If only more imaginary footballers would follow your lead.
Im sure there are plenty of examples. Pellistri is one if youre looking close to home. Stayed back to focus on training (let alone taking a break) while Sancho went to parties in NYC.
 
Do you think his dress sense is relevant to his attitude, then?

I think that when you’ve even been criticized by your manager for your professionalism off the pitch, and your overall performances are miles from good enough, dressing up in an attire that screams «look at me» in combination with bodyguards has a tendency to give off a certain impression that won’t sit well with the people that don’t think his head is at the right place.
 
Maybe focus commentary to his performances on the pitch and and behaviours which could effect that?

Enjoying a day off is something we're all entitled to do, regardless of whether work has gone well or not. Turning up late because of overindulging is obviously different.

Who cares how he chooses to dress?
I am not the one who criticize the dressing.
But if your performance is not well (not only one or two months, it is a 1.5 season long in your peak age) and comparing to his salary then everything you could be criticized..
Especially he is wearing like flaunt wealth which his performance don't worth his salary..
 
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Maybe focus commentary to his performances on the pitch and and behaviours which could effect that?

Enjoying a day off is something we're all entitled to do, regardless of whether work has gone well or not. Turning up late because of overindulging is obviously different.

Who cares how he chooses to dress?
Plenty of people, apparently.
 
Im sure there are plenty of examples. Pellistri is one if youre looking close to home. Stayed back to focus on training (let alone taking a break) while Sancho went to parties in NYC.
To be fair, when Rashford posted videos of him doing extra training during time off, he took a load of flack for it on here.
 
To be fair, when Rashford posted videos of him doing extra training during time off, he took a load of flack for it on here.
Doesn't seem to matter what he does.... I'm trying to remember the last positive thread about him?
 
To be fair, when Rashford posted videos of him doing extra training during time off, he took a load of flack for it on here.
Was he? I don't remember. I personally don't take issue with it if he was training.
 
Yes, mostly because it felt like a PR-jippo because it got plastered over social media
Do you not think it’s a bit strange? It’s almost like he can’t win. Right now he’s getting berated for going on holiday, but even if he’s training during the holidays he’s getting berated.
 
If only he put as much effort into playing football as he does deciding what to wear
How much effort do you think it takes to decide what to wear? Are you a toddler on your first day of school?

(not to mention Rashford probably pays someone else to decide what he wears)
 
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Do you not think it’s a bit strange? It’s almost like he can’t win. Right now he’s getting berated for going on holiday, but even if he’s training during the holidays he’s getting berated.
It's more than strange, it's now not even hidden agenda driven nonsense by so called fans not wanting him at the club.

If he does something positive it's PR spin, if he dresses in expensive clothes and has security in a public place he's out of touch, if he lobbies the government to feed hungry children it's PR and agenda driven publicity.
If he performs on the pitch it's a purple patch, if he doesn't perform on the pitch that's his mean and he needs to go.
It's quite frankly embarrassing to read and watch.
 
It's more than strange, it's now not even hidden agenda driven nonsense by so called fans not wanting him at the club.

If he does something positive it's PR spin, if he dresses in expensive clothes and has security in a public place he's out of touch, if he lobbies the government to feed hungry children it's PR and agenda driven publicity.
If he performs on the pitch it's a purple patch, if he doesn't perform on the pitch that's his mean and he needs to go.
It's quite frankly embarrassing to read and watch.

Agreed, it's absolutely pathetic. If the criticism was because of his performances you could understand but for a number of posters its clearly agenda driven.
 
Do you not think it’s a bit strange? It’s almost like he can’t win. Right now he’s getting berated for going on holiday, but even if he’s training during the holidays he’s getting berated.

Why would it be strange? If anything, isn't it to be expected? One of the best paid players at the club, one of the best paid players in the Premier League, performances and attitude on the pitch has been miles away from justifying that for the better part of 1,5 years now. It adds to the overall scrutiny that famous players are subjected to. Given the amount of puff pieces written about him, it's hardly a surprise that people find it a bit tedious that a training routine is turned into PR that gets plastered over social media. A change of attitude on the pitch and a performance improvement over time and the vast majority of the noise will go away.
 
I do not give a feck about this but obviously everything has to be debated and picked apart at a granular level these days.

He does this kind of thing all the time, whether on form or out of form. It's just what he does. He's not going to change it. It is not worth your energy.
 
change of attitude on the pitch and a performance improvement over time and the vast majority of the noise will go away.

It won't. It should but it won't.

The vast majority of noise is certain posters with agendas inspired by media sources wanting Rashford vilified for ideological reasons.

If he performs, it'll be 'let's see him do it every week' and 'why didn't he do it under ten Hag?'

Like Sterling buying his mother a house, it's got nothing to do with Sterling buying his mother a house.
 
I do not give a feck about this but obviously everything has to be debated and picked apart at a granular level these days.

He does this kind of thing all the time, whether on form or out of form. It's just what he does. He's not going to change it. It is not worth your energy.
This really. He (and many other footballers) travel the world in the international break to watch other sports. It’s not the worst thing ever and hardly worth getting wound up over.

Oh and also his fashion is awful (in my opinion), ah well.
 
Of course he can live his own life as long as it does not interfere with his football. My worry is whether perhaps his concern with his appearance might cause him to avoid putting his body, face in harm's way. And his constant pulling out of 50-50 challenges irritates me. But that's for the new coach to assess and decide.
 
I think this should just be is Rashford good enough as a footballer to keep his place here and the rest of it, race fashion trips etc shouldn’t be in any discussion. It’s going off on a bad tangent here.
 
Why is everyone getting so worked up? Every player that was not in selected for their national teams got a week off. The players at Carrington were ones coming back from injury.

Whilst I understand the jump on the bashing bandwagon, this is the only time they will now have a break for a good few months. You want your players to have a week break if they can, in readiness for the hectic schedule.

Regardless of form, it helps because they get to switch off with their families, better for mental health getting out and coming back fresh.

He is obviously training to keep fit, Amorim takes over today, I would be pretty certain that Rashford turns up to training today raring to go.
 
Do you not see this as being any different in tone?
By some perhaps. But that outfit just invites ridicule, irrespective of circumstance.

As do for instance the royals for their 15th century pomp. Or the house of lords.
 
If Rashford performed like Vinicius, no one will care what he is doing, what he is wearing and where he is...
The problem is...Rashford's performance on pitch....

Yeah because Vinicius never receives any bad press.
 
We should extend, maybe he can still turn it around. And also protect his value for when he does.

J/K, sell.
 
Of course he can live his own life as long as it does not interfere with his football. My worry is whether perhaps his concern with his appearance might cause him to avoid putting his body, face in harm's way. And his constant pulling out of 50-50 challenges irritates me. But that's for the new coach to assess and decide.

Nah, that's reaching quite heavily. I think his lack of commitment in challenges is because Ole broke him. He's probably still got back issues and mentally he's not brave. What he can be criticised for is lack of appetite when it comes to pressing, tracking back, blocking passing lanes, in short, all the off the ball work.
 
This latest salvo of criticism isn’t just the fashion police. It’s disingenuous to pretend that’s the issue. It’s about the whole thing. The fancy clothes in the context of an entourage, wearing shades indoors, pressing flesh with the NBA players on the court. It’s all very A list Hollywood/pop music celebrity behaviour. Which people find irritating for reasons that have nothing do with disapproval of his fashion choices.

Obviously, water off a duck’s back if a player is performing. But seems a bit much when that player is letting his team down so badly over the last year or two, when he should be the main man on the pitch (peak age, peak salary). Which makes this “I’m a superstar celebrity” behaviour feels very unearned. Which is kind of annoying. And not unreasonably so.
 
I think this should just be is Rashford good enough as a footballer to keep his place here and the rest of it, race fashion trips etc shouldn’t be in any discussion. It’s going off on a bad tangent here.
Its not fashion per say, but it's just the way he struts like he's a big dog, and it's going to wind fans up when he hides on the pitch week in week out.

I agree that the primary criticism is on the pitch, but you can't expect fans to not be wound up whenever players do things off the field that makes them wonder about mentality. It's only human. He should be wise to it too.
 
Honestly, if criticising Marcus Rashford is your thing, there are more than enough very valid footballing reasons to have a go at him before you move on to clothes, jewellery and holidays.

I think most criticism unrelated to football is usually a result of frustration based on footballing reasons. A lot of people find it annoying when players are all flashy without earning it on the pitch. We've seen it a lot with Beckham, when he was great he was universally adored, and when he was bad it was because of all the distractions in his personal life. Problem with Rashford is that he's been poor for a long long time. Most people can't stand the sight of him smiling. It's not right, but that's how being a celebrity works.
 
This latest salvo of criticism isn’t just the fashion police. It’s disingenuous to pretend that’s the issue. It’s about the whole thing. The fancy clothes in the context of an entourage, wearing shades indoors,
You must be joking. Adding vague qualifiers does not mean you are not specifically talking about his fashion in a weird way to try and frame his attitude. It's literally the first two things you mention.

And what's with the nonsense about behaving like a celebrity? Is Rashford not a celebrity now?
 
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