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Marcus Rashford and his critics | Now includes fashion and hobby critics
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I don’t think any of that relates to him acting like a ‘gangster’, and i guarantee you wouldn’t refer to him like that if it wasn’t for the colour of his skin.
Beat me to it, I don't think anyone under the age of 50 in the UK knows what a left-wing govermment is
In the Diallo performance thread someone said he was one of a few players who stayed in Manchester and met the new manager. No idea if that’s true or not.
I wonder what Amorin makes of this footage? Wouldn’t say he’s had much experience managing players who are embracing the “celeb” lifestyle like this. Will be a rude awakening.
I suppose there’s different angles to it, which is obviously perfectly normal.
In my opinion, when you’ve been struggling to perform at a decent level for the better part of 1,5 years, went from being a natural part of the national team to being completely left out, frequently clubbing during the season to the point of missing training due to a daft trip to Belfast, you sort of reach a point where you need to figure out what’s most important in life.
There’s a new manager who has just arrived, most teammates are away with their national teams. It’s the signals you send. Fine, you do have time off, but you feck off to New York for a basketball match fronting grillz for hundreds of thousands and dress up to be noticed. It’s the opposite of what you’d prefer to see. Ten Hag has been sacked, new manager comes in, it gives you the opportunity for a bit of a reset, your chance to prove that the past few years was partially down to the management rather than you as a player. You want the players that have been questioned, ridiculed, to take this as an opportunity to prove that they were just misunderstood, their skills weren’t acknowledged, they were made to look worse than they are. You want them to display a bit of fight in them, hit the ground running, make yourself impossible to remove from the starting lineup. The career of a footballer isn’t that long and he’s 27, he’ll have plenty of time to enjoy his millions while he’s still young.
The second the gangsta word gets used I wince uncontrollably. There’s a few other words used in this thread that are giveaways too.Thinly veiled indeed but people will always play oblivious over others pointing out the obvious
I don’t care for him as a player but his dressing doesn’t tell me anything about his love or commitment to the game. Someone gets paid at least £20m a year from wages and endorsements, why would I be offended he’s wearing expensive stuff that only rich people can afford.
It's not the price of his clothes. It's his whole vibe.
The impression he creates off the pitch very much carries over on to the pitch.
He plays football in the style you'd expect of a guy walking out of the NBA game as he did.
He doesn't give off a 'gangsta' vibe either...
He looks exactly like any 27 year old multimillionaire looks like in 2024 around the world, doesn't matter if they're athletes, 'influencers', actors etc.
Can't go wrong critiquing his play this season, nobody ever defends that for good reason.
It's when it goes over to superficial things off the pitch that people get really personal over and armchair pyschoanalyze that makes it weird but nothing shocks me anymore after all the venom he got, and pure cynicism, when he was playing well and doing less flashy things like charitable efforts to feed disadvantaged schoolchildren.
The same people who had a problem with that have a problem with literally anything else he does period outside of becoming a hermit and only leaving the house for training or matches.
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Pretty sure the Insta post is from pre-season. Also, Casemiro is clearly keeping a much lower profile there, as opposed to Rashford's clown show.
Maybe mrs casemiro is keeping him in check
Fergie was right. Get them married young.
Yessir. Looking froward to that attitude from the top, and obviously it will take time to see results.
Exactly. Poor seasons, poor performances, disciplinary issues, lack of motivation, you name it.
What reason would that be?
A bit better, maybe, certainly not a lot better.
It wasn’t me who referred to him acting as a ‘gangster’, but the point is it’s hardly outlandish for someone to say he is acting like that.
If I was choosing a reference for him I’d say he’s acting the KN**, but I won’t say it again as I just got a warning for it!
You know what they mean.
The amount defending him is truly baffling to be honest.
Agreed.
He's the voice of reason, don't you know (either that or a family member).
Speak for yourself, I've seen what one can do
He is as entitled to go on a break as anyone else , no issue with that and he can wear what he likes. But for his own sake you would hope he has some real friends around him and not just hangers on telling him nonsense, he needs people to tell him just how ridiculous and cringe he looks and acts when he goes all in on this gangster look or whatever they call it.
He's just yet another poster who thinks just because you criticise Rashford in any way shape or form you're automatically racist.
I agree. I want him to succeed and fulfill his potential. And sometimes its good to keep a low profile to take some pressure off of yourself. He had "deleted" his social media twice... the boy needs help to fend off the trolls.
Off topic I think he looked like he was about to do a kickboxing match than a gangster to be honest.
If Vinicius Junior dressed in the same manner as Rashford, would there be the same outcry from Real fans?
Criticize him for his performances. I don't have any criticism whatsoever for him a) being in NY b) wearing clothes he likes c) watching an NBA game. Generally, you can't conclusively tell anything about a human being's behaviors or motivations just by watching 5 second clip of them leaving a basketball game. When I saw how many new pages there were in this thread I thought it would be because of something more important than the clip fo him leaving the Knicks game.
Let’s rephrase that.
If Vinicius Junior played in the same manner as Rashford, would there be the same outcry from Real fans?
Yes, their fans and media would be even worse than us.
It's been an insane couple of pages in this thread. The entitlement and social conservatism is quite something to behold.
I hope at least that everyone posting this nonsense, when they are having a difficult period at work, they spend their time off feeling embarrassed and honing their skills.
So players can only venture out to a public event and wear whatever they like if they are playing well and if they are playing poorly, they must dress very conservatively or preferably just lock themselves in their houses and never go out at all?
Fair point. I think the issue isn’t Rashford’s dress sense but his lack of self-awareness that his performances at United and his dedication to the club are being questioned. Typically it is basic PR to keep a low profile when you’re not performing. Rashford is free to wear whatever he wants. I mean Becks wore a sarong many years ago!
If you’re underperforming, your every action goes under the microscope.
Everyone is entitled to dress how they want, and do what they want on their days off. The biggest issue, to me, is his complete lack of self awareness. You’d think with the way he’s been performing, he would show some level of humility and fly under the radar - especially with the new manager coming in.
Rightly or wrongly, it’s obvious to anyone this is going to cause a furore amongst the media. Surely, he can see this?
Nope. Not our Rashy.
Everyone is entitled to dress how they want, and do what they want on their days off. The biggest issue, to me, is his complete lack of self awareness. You’d think with the way he’s been performing, he would show some level of humility and fly under the radar - especially with the new manager coming in.
Rightly or wrongly, it’s obvious to anyone this is going to cause a furore amongst the media. Surely, he can see this?
Nope. Not our Rashy.
Not at all, players have every right to do what they want in their time off. But I do expect a player earning 350k to put in a shift each week and earn that 350k by producing in the pitch. When you aren’t, you should be prepared for scrutiny and criticism for your actions on and off the pitch.
I personally don’t care that he’s in the US watching basketball and think the fan reaction is a bit over the top. As long as he’s ready to go for Amorim’s 1st session and he’s not jet lagged or anything, I think we all have bigger things going on in our lives to focus on.
Don't understand this microscopic examination of what he does off the pitch. His actions on the pitch are more than enough to conclude that his attitude is a big problem, it is not as if any fan would claim he is a model professional or anything.
It is totally fine for him to watch an NBA. Nothing is wrong with that.
I would only have problem if he got drunk all the time and come back as an unfit fat player
I would only have problem if he got drunk all the time and come back as an unfit fat player
Couldn’t agree more. If he was playing out of his skin and smashing it, if United were winning, no one would give a feck.. but then again, he’d be playing for his country if that was the case..
Sometimes you got to read the room, it feels slightly tone deaf.. this is our highest paid player, who can’t get anywhere near the international team.. below parr more than he has been good.. on 375k per week, of course he will be scrutinised. He can do what he wants, wear what he wants, have diamond grills on his teeth, wear more bling than the average person in the uks house is worth.. etc etc etc.. but you got to play well.. thats the condition if you want people to leave you alone.. otherwise, expect some criticism from the very people that pay your wages.
What I’m saying isn’t popular at the moment with so many sticking up for him..
I just can’t get on board with him at the moment, somethings off, different. I remember him being this humble down to earth lad from manc, who wasn’t even particularly flashy, he always liked fashion and music etc.. but not overly flashy or bling, has he always been like that? Maybe he has and I’m totally wrong? Somethings different with him.. maybe he has just got older and grown up, developed. Maybe the fame and money changes you? Maybe he hasn’t changed at all. I used to love him though, as a player and his character whereas now I wouldn’t mind if we sold him in the summer.
It’s a weird one with him, feels a shame that his popularity has plummeted so much amongst the fanbase. He certainly hasn’t hit the ceiling he had placed above his head when he burst on to the scene.
Guy went to a basketball game during his time off
No-one is defending his performances on the pitch from what I can see. Despite some improvement this year, he's only scored one goal and been hooked many games he's started.
Some people do view the level of hatred and states of sheer apoplexy some posters are working themselves into as over the top and repellent though.
So he can do what he wants, wear what he wants...when the Caf feels he's playing well enough? If he scores four in his next five games, with a couple of assists, would that earn him the right to wear say a bracelet? Maybe three man of the match awards and he can wear shades indoors at another event, but he needs to win the Ballon d'or before he can wear that hoodie again.
If Yamal drops off when he is 27 then people would feel sorry for how he has been overused.
Not for our English Rashy.
Ever since he has broken through, overrated or not he has been overused as a consistent starter ever since which has both led him to believe he is better than he really is & has taken a significant physical & technical aspect of his game off aswell.
He is both mentally & physically broken from being overused in what was one of our worst decades ever.
Not for our English Rashy.
Ever since he has broken through, overrated or not he has been overused as a consistent starter ever since which has both led him to believe he is better than he really is & has taken a significant physical & technical aspect of his game off aswell.
He is both mentally & physically broken from being overused in what was one of our worst decades ever.
This is the club of David Beckham, George Best, Eric Cantona. Criticism of what a high profile footballer wears or does outside of football has been par for the course for decades. It comes with the territory. Beckham just had a few questionable haircuts; the level of criticism if he turned up mid-season dripping in bling and with diamond teeth it would have made this furore seem very minor league.
If Garnacho spent the weekend at an NFL game looking as if he'd just signed a sponsorship deal with Tiffany's and diamond teeth, the reaction would be exactly the same. Maybe worse. So much about Rashford only works if the victim narrative is stuck to. In weeks and months to come I fully expect the lines to be blurred to the point where it's suggested he only lost his place in the England team because some people online thought parading around with diamond incrusted teeth was a bit of a misstep.
If Garnacho spent the weekend at an NFL game looking as if he'd just signed a sponsorship deal with Tiffany's and diamond teeth, the reaction would be exactly the same. Maybe worse. So much about Rashford only works if the victim narrative is stuck to. In weeks and months to come I fully expect the lines to be blurred to the point where it's suggested he only lost his place in the England team because some people online thought parading around with diamond incrusted teeth was a bit of a misstep.
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