Manuel Ugarte | Romano - he’s signed | Awaiting Club announcement

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Sarni said:
In my view it’s providing more excuses when ETH doesn’t perform, and we will be back at square one next Summer having to replace players ETH never wanted with better players to help the coach.
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ETH has proven to be poor at evaluating talent and recruitment. I’ll put my faith in Wilcox, Ashworth, etc. over ETH.

Guarantee Ugarte will outlast ETH and he’ll be a good player for United.
 
Sarni said:
In my view it’s providing more excuses when ETH doesn’t perform, and we will be back at square one next Summer having to replace players ETH never wanted with better players to help the coach.
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He is on his chance. Bad start to the season and he is gone in a couple of months. So we don’t need to worry about him complaining next summer.
 
PieCrust said:
ETH can't evaluate talent. It's not a knock on him per se, it just shows how bad we've needed an actual structure to override him when necessary, if you needed any further examples then a signing like Antony.

Ugarte is no Rodri, but he's miles better than McT and a very clear upgrade and raisisng the talent bar of the squad.
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Absolutely agree. Ten Hag already wrongly went for less physical players for the premier league. I can see ineos have identified that physicality and intensity is something that is missing (not so hard to do that since Rangnick even spoke about it publicly).

I like this transfer and what it represents. Whether that would be a success time will tells. Hope that he will play him, especially (assuming he is match fit) with Liverpool.

I don’t belive this nonsense with not ready. He did play Antony straight.
 
December_16 said:
I used to think exactly like this too. Until our spending seems severely hamstrung by high-profile, high-cost mistakes like Antony, Sancho and to a certain extent, Maguire, it all becomes relevant.
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You've spent big money nearly every summer for the last 10 years
 
This isn’t a new thing with ETH either, Ajax fans told us all he was kept the hell away from transfers as he was shite at identifying players, that was Overmars’s responsibility. They struck up a pretty good partnership as well with Overmars bringing in the talent and ETH being left to coach the team. That was until Overmars exposed himself to be a Wrong’un.
 
Shark said:
This doesn't fill me with much confidence.
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Ultimately it was just a one off game where PSG as a whole were terrible. There were many good players on that team who also performed poorly.
 
He'll be an instant crowd favourite because of his playstyle. Not exactly the profile I would have went for but we don't seem to have any interest in controlling games so might as well go full Bielsa-ball.

PSG definitely 'won' by moving Ugarte and bringing in Neves for €10m on top, but I still think it's a decent enough signing.
 
ShinjiNinja26 said:
This isn’t a new thing with ETH either, Ajax fans told us all he was kept the hell away from transfers as he was shite at identifying players, that was Overmars’s responsibility. They struck up a pretty good partnership as well with Overmars bringing in the talent and ETH being left to coach the team. That was until Overmars exposed himself to be a Wrong’un.
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He does seem to be pretty bad at those things. Absolute mystery we gave him a big say in transfers here. Leave the talent identification to the people who have it as their specialty and work with it full time.
 
Martial'sEmergingSmile said:
He'll be an instant crowd favourite because of his playstyle. Not exactly the profile I would have went for but we don't seem to have any interest in controlling games so might as well go full Bielsa-ball.

PSG definitely 'won' by moving Ugarte and bringing in Neves for €10m on top, but I still think it's a decent enough signing for us.
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I think there's some dodgy goings on going on around the Neves deal. I don't see why, when the going rate for a Benfica starlet is Joao Felix/Enzo money, they'd suddenly settle for half that.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Benfica have a cushy little above market rate sponsorship deal with a Qatari company that doesn't currently exist by this time next year.
 
saivet said:
Ultimately it was just a one off game where PSG as a whole were terrible. There were many good players on that team who also performed poorly.
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Yep. That game shouldn't worry you

It is the Milan game that should worry you ;)
 
RDCR07 said:
Why? Cause a player isn’t allowed to have a bad game?
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I think the PL will be a big step up for him, whatever way you look at it. Looking like a monster DM in France is different to looking one against Premier League sides.
 
Remember the geese said:
Weird how people are dismissing the Muppetiers info. Sounds very believable to me.
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I remember he got a lot of stuff right recently too which is why I'm surprised so many are dismissing it as rubbish. I fully believe the McTominay part whether that's just a guess or actual info
 
Even if true, I don't think ETH will let that impact how he uses Ugarte. He wanted rid of Maguire and McT last season, yet ended up using them. I don't think we'll see a situation where Ugarte is struggling for minutes because ETH is pissed we have him instead of McT
 
Shark said:
I think the PL will be a big step up for him, whatever way you look at it. Looking like a monster DM in France is different to looking one against Premier League sides.
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That could literally be said for every player coming into the league.
 
Sarni said:
In my view it’s providing more excuses when ETH doesn’t perform, and we will be back at square one next Summer having to replace players ETH never wanted with better players to help the coach.
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If EtH doesn’t perform this season he won’t be here for the next one.
 
pseudo_canadian said:
The source is highly suspect but none of that sounds far fetched at all.
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If the source is suspect then info is suspect, and I won't react to it.

I don't care about EtH, he could be fired today for all I care I simply don't believe anything from a known bs merchants like Muppeters or whatever they are called.
 
V.O. said:
I think there's some dodgy goings on going on around the Neves deal. I don't see why, when the going rate for a Benfica starlet is Joao Felix/Enzo money, they'd suddenly settle for half that.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Benfica have a cushy little above market rate sponsorship deal with a Qatari company that doesn't currently exist by this time next year.
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People are forgetting to include Sanches in the price for Neves who went the other way back to Benfica.
 
acid_fuji said:
Absolutely agree. Ten Hag already wrongly went for less physical players for the premier league. I can see ineos have identified that physicality and intensity is something that is missing (not so hard to do that since Rangnick even spoke about it publicly).

I like this transfer and what it represents. Whether that would be a success time will tells. Hope that he will play him, especially (assuming he is match fit) with Liverpool.

I don’t belive this nonsense with not ready. He did play Antony straight.
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I suspect he’s kept himself fit. Uruguay have a game Sept 2nd and I imagine he will want to be in the squad.
 
Ayoba said:
Thats....erm....basic stuff??
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That might be the funniest video I’ve ever seen on the caf. Just shows how anything a new signing does can be painted as a positive.

It’s also doing a disservice to Ugarte because he has many better bits of play that could have been used.
 
Legendary said:
People are forgetting to include Sanches in the price for Neves who went the other way back to Benfica.
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2024 Renato Sanches isn't close to enough to fill the ~60m gap between what they sold Neves for, and the price you'd expect given the Enzo Fernandez deal, and the links to basically every big club in Europe.
 
RDCR07 said:
He is on his chance. Bad start to the season and he is gone in a couple of months. So we don’t need to worry about him complaining next summer.
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If we get stuffed on Sunday (0 2 or worse) at home against Liverpool I have a feeling Sir Jim will snap and we could have Mr G Southgate in quicker than you can say, “careful what you fecking wish for”.
I’m praying Utd win and win comfortably but I have this horrible feeling.
 
mu4c_20le said:
That does sound believable. ETH wanted a box to box like Mount or Frenkie, he never targeted a player like Ugarte's profile. This looks like an INEOS club signing, with a view towards the next manager.
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Are you suggesting these 2 are similar types?
 
Melville Red said:
If we get stuffed on Sunday (0 2 or worse) at home against Liverpool I have a feeling Sir Jim will snap and we could have Mr G Southgate in quicker than you can say, “careful what you fecking wish for”.
I’m praying Utd win and win comfortably but I have this horrible feeling.
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Southgate has already got a new job.
 
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