RDCR07
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I'd be surprised as he never did any preseason and I couldn't imagine him going that hard in training when he didn't want to be at the club.Finally! Glad it's done, will be a big boost to the squad, missing his kinda profile for a while now.
Don't get the comparison to Scotty. He's a DM and Scotty is a SS/CAM, at least the way we utilised him. We shouldn't have been relying on him for the goals, they should come from our other attacking threats.
Think we'll see him get a few minutes this weekend and then start after the break. Like Nous and Antony before, ETH won't take time to bed him in, we don't have an alternative profile to him.
Do you not get how contracts work?Not really what I'm getting at.
They are ALWAYS an issue when we try to sell them.
Something tells me you haven't seen Ugarte play. Ugarte is going to be Casemiro's legs.Start Ugarte against Liverpool....
Casemiro immediately realises in training he's going to be sidelined the rest of the season.....
He then explores leaving before Fridays deadline.....
If he leaves, we then sign Amrabat as the 2nd choice CDM on a permanent deal.
When this season is over, we now have our new Malian CDM who is now ready to support Ugarte the following season and compete with Amrabat for the 2nd choice CDM position.
Family member wearing 'Camo' is a red flag for me.Worryingly bald
De Ligt was way behind on his preseason. Ugarte has 7 lungs so that’s not going to be an issue.Ugarte won't start at the weekend. De Ligt can't even start a game yet
Yea, no, as you saw it’s just an early suggestion for the Ugarte song thread.
Thank you!
And thank you too.
Living up to your name I see!Start Ugarte against Liverpool....
Casemiro immediately realises in training he's going to be sidelined the rest of the season.....
He then explores leaving before Fridays deadline.....
If he leaves, we then sign Amrabat as the 2nd choice CDM on a permanent deal.
When this season is over, we now have our new Malian CDM who is now ready to support Ugarte the following season and compete with Amrabat for the 2nd choice CDM position.
Guess I need to spell it out...Do you not get how contracts work?
With that jawline his dad is either a Greek god or the troloIol meme.Did we check if his dad is obese or not?
Maybe dude felt he needed a vacation after a very stressful summer.I’m sure in deadline week he just fancies visiting le Louvre.
I think we just wanted some outgoings first, tbf.So we waited all that time just to pay them what they wanted by adding 10m addons?
I do think Ugarte has a deceptively decent passing range, he’s no Kroos but I think he’ll surprise peopleEnrique wants his DM to be a metronome who can play the ball and keep possession, like Busquets. Ugarte is more of a spoiler, he runs around tackling people.
I could actually see ETH try that midfield trio now, with Ugarte instead of Casemiro, like he must have originally planned to.Not in E10Hag's mind but have a feeling with Ugarte we could see Mount, Bruno and Ugarte as the mid 3. Something you probably can't do with Casemiro because whilst he has amazing positioning he is slow. Maybe Ugarte unlocks anothet tactical approach to our gameplans
Probably around 35 million, simply because he's not a player I can see having a long-term key role in our project, as of now, but I obviously hope that's not going to be the case, and also because his value should've diminished a bit more after 1 rather unsuccessful year at PSG.How much in the context of this window (see previous post) do you think he should be going for and why?
Jesus, he hasn’t even signed and you’re already thinking of moving him on.Not really what I'm getting at.
They are ALWAYS an issue when we try to sell them.
Sure that was the report, but like I said I trust Orny more than L'equipe. You are free to think this is a great deal, I'm not gonna rain on your parade on signing day.Again in July that wasn’t the brief (see your own reaction to reports), what PSG actually wanted and what we paid is also different.
Yea. Considering how he had no pre-season and knowing ETH, we might see Ugarte play for us only after the international break.Don't think he starts in CM for some time.
That's only 1 game away to be fairYea. Considering how he had no pre-season and knowing ETH, we might see Ugarte play for us only after the international break.
What do you call Rice?
Clearly don’t watch Rice closely enough if you think he falls into the category of a strict ball winning midfielder. He has way more to his game than Ugarte. Rice plays a far more advanced role for Arsenal with Partey the most defence minded in there.I mean Declan rice exists.
You mention city and Madrid, if we had the depth of quality in every position they have then sure but that's not exactly feasible is it? You can't have a dig at the manager for not having Madrid/city esque players, and it's certainly not because of the way he's inadequately built the team as you say.
We have too few fatalist supporter songs!Don’t know much the point of Anthony
Don’t know much about the Dutch I took
is such a good line before going into... feck blue, am red...?
It has potential.
He's a good passer he just won't dictate tempo or be some creative guy, which is fine. He holds his own in possession and isn't dispossessed easily. Some people making it out like he's McTominay on the ball and it isn't true. We need both a deep passer and an elite ball winner, we have one of the 2. More chance of Eriksen being useful now as a squad player as well.I do think Ugarte has a deceptively decent passing range, he’s no Kroos but I think he’ll surprise people
Yeah a playmaker next summer and we’d be in a great place.He's a good passer he just won't dictate tempo or be some creative guy, which is fine. He holds his own in possession and isn't dispossessed easily. Some people making it out like he's McTominay on the ball and it isn't true. We need both a deep passer and an elite ball winner, we have one of the 2. More chance of Eriksen being useful now as a squad player as well.
He's not bad but he's not a one touch DM, he'd rather go long, and that isn't what Enrique wants.I do think Ugarte has a deceptively decent passing range, he’s no Kroos but I think he’ll surprise people
Did we check if his dad is obese or not?
Again I ask do you not know how contracts work? In a hypothetical scenario he could sign for £50k a week but when we will sell him in 2 years if the signing club is only willing to pay £20k for him and we want to get rid of him then we have to do a payoff. Payoffs dont happen only in the case of inflated wages.Guess I need to spell it out...
I hope we are not paying him inflated wages, and therefore make him impossible to sell if he doesn't work out.
No, we need to stop changing our team based on the opposition. We need to play one way whoever it is just like the good teams.A bit daft, but I wouldn't be surprised if we started ultra-defensive against the Scousers:
Onana
De Ligt, Maguire, Martinez
Mazroui, Casemiro, Mainoo, Ugarte, Dalot
Bruno, Rashford
Do we have a way? That's one of the biggest criticisms Ten Hag gets these days. However we always play well when we set up to counter or do a mid press, which is exactly what we'll do.No, we need to stop changing our team based on the opposition. We need to play one way whoever it is just like the good teams.
He was 15 at Sporting. He wore 4 at PSG.What number is he gonna wear?
24?
19What number is he gonna wear?
24?
I can definitely see it being an asset we use, since Pogba we've been appalling at spreading the play which leads to us getting boxed in, at least in my view.He's not bad but he's not a one touch DM, he'd rather go long, and that isn't what Enrique wants.
That team won't score with Rashford. Play GarnachoA bit daft, but I wouldn't be surprised if we started ultra-defensive against the Scousers:
Onana
De Ligt, Maguire, Martinez
Mazroui, Casemiro, Mainoo, Ugarte, Dalot
Bruno, Rashford
Long ball, quick counter?Do we have a way? That's one of the biggest criticisms Ten Hag gets these days. However we always play well when we set up to counter or do a mid press, which is exactly what we'll do.
Yeah I understand what you're saying and I agree, but the issue is that this style of play we seem to want to play under Ten Hag is a coin flip win or lose and you can't build upon that, so he either needs to find something more consistent or relax on his 'principles' and play something that benefits the players we're signing that cost massive amounts of money. And bringing it back to Ugarte, he's better suited to a counter attacking team, he isn't an intricate passer or ball player, he's just there to track back and spoil.Long ball, quick counter?
I'm just talking about going forward. You never really see City/Arsenal etc adapting to another team they just have their gameplan and stick to it. I think we should do this too.
Obviously I'm talking in an ideal world where we have a clearly defined game model.