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We have bought Kone whom I imagine will be training with the first team by Christmas so I doubt it.Could see a cheap signing if Eriksen leaves.
We have bought Kone whom I imagine will be training with the first team by Christmas so I doubt it.Could see a cheap signing if Eriksen leaves.
Nice video, but 8 wonder why he has been frozen out of the PSG team?
Personal terms are never an issue at Utd.Is there any info on what his wages are going to be?
Hopefully it's not another Unflushable on ridiculous wages.
Well when I look at midfielders listed as defensive midfielders that moved this window:In the context of that list, €50m+€10m seems fair.
Don’t mean to panic anyone but THERES A LION BEHIND YOU![]()
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Wasted our budget on a signing that changes nothing. Anyways, welcome abroad Manuel.
This is hilarious but it always reflects on most of Ugarte's critics in this thread. The part they don't do is openly admit to this within two posts of each other. So daft.For someone who's watched him enough, which current or past players does he compare to?
Kante. Slight better pass and header, slight worse dribbler, less progressive and slower.For someone who's watched him enough, which current or past players does he compare to?
That's the lion inside of himDon’t mean to panic anyone but THERES A LION BEHIND YOU
Well when I look at midfielders listed as defensive midfielders that moved this window:
Neves - €59.92m
Onana - €59.35m
Palhinha - €51.00m
Wieffer - €32.00m
Skipp €23.50m
Fofana €20.00m
Then CMs around this price or below:
Luiz €51.50m
Gallagher €42.00m
Gray €41.25m
Anderson €41.20m
Dewsbury-Hall €35.4m
I’d say €50m guaranteed is fine.
Well when I look at midfielders listed as defensive midfielders that moved this window:
Neves - €59.92m
Onana - €59.35m
Palhinha - €51.00m
Wieffer - €32.00m
Skipp €23.50m
Fofana €20.00m
Then CMs around this price or below:
Luiz €51.50m
Gallagher €42.00m
Gray €41.25m
Anderson €41.20m
Dewsbury-Hall €35.4m
I’d say €50m guaranteed is fine.
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What did i just read?Start Ugarte against Liverpool....
Casemiro immediately realises in training he's going to be sidelined the rest of the season.....
He then explores leaving before Fridays deadline.....
If he leaves, we then sign Amrabat as the 2nd choice CDM on a permanent deal.
When this season is over, we now have our new Malian CDM who is now ready to support Ugarte the following season and compete with Amrabat for the 2nd choice CDM position.
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That the extra biteThat's the lion inside of him
Got that lion in him dog
We have bought Kone whom I imagine will be training with the first team by Christmas so I doubt it.
There's the potential of Ugarte helping us squeeze the most of what's left of Casemiro. It's not a train smash if he stays.Start Ugarte against Liverpool....
Casemiro immediately realises in training he's going to be sidelined the rest of the season.....
He then explores leaving before Fridays deadline.....
If he leaves, we then sign Amrabat as the 2nd choice CDM on a permanent deal.
When this season is over, we now have our new Malian CDM who is now ready to support Ugarte the following season and compete with Amrabat for the 2nd choice CDM position.
Not really what I'm getting at.Personal terms are never an issue at Utd.
Start Ugarte against Liverpool....
Casemiro immediately realises in training he's going to be sidelined the rest of the season.....
He then explores leaving before Fridays deadline.....
If he leaves, we then sign Amrabat as the 2nd choice CDM on a permanent deal.
When this season is over, we now have our new Malian CDM who is now ready to support Ugarte the following season and compete with Amrabat for the 2nd choice CDM position.
Him next to Mainoo and another passing midfielder would be great. But that requires dropping Bruno and Mount, as there'd be more control that way.The fee is still far from ideal IMO, and I've discussed his limitations as a player several times in this thread, but the club obviously know way more than any of us in here, and they seem to be sure that Ugarte is the player to go for this summer. I hope he proves me wrong, but I think a new defensive midfielder will still be needed relatively soon, probably next summer, to be honest. I'd also like to see one more midfielder arrive this summer in addition to Ugarte, who's a good passer and can play Mainoo's position in the XI. If that doesn't happen, Mainoo will have to play 50+ games this season, which isn't ideal.
That makes me feel better about the fee to be fair.Well when I look at midfielders listed as defensive midfielders that moved this window:
Neves - €59.92m
Onana - €59.35m
Palhinha - €51.00m
Wieffer - €32.00m
Skipp €23.50m
Fofana €20.00m
Then CMs around this price or below:
Luiz €51.50m
Gallagher €42.00m
Gray €41.25m
Anderson €41.20m
Dewsbury-Hall €35.4m
I’d say €50m guaranteed is fine.
Enrique wants his DM to be a metronome who can play the ball and keep possession, like Busquets. Ugarte is more of a spoiler, he runs around tackling people.Nice video, but 8 wonder why he has been frozen out of the PSG team?
The fee is still far from ideal IMO, and I've discussed his limitations as a player several times in this thread, but the club obviously know way more than any of us in here, and they seem to be sure that Ugarte is the player to go for this summer. I hope he proves me wrong, but I think a new defensive midfielder will still be needed relatively soon, probably next summer, to be honest. I'd also like to see one more midfielder arrive this summer in addition to Ugarte, who's a good passer and can play Mainoo's position in the XI. If that doesn't happen, Mainoo will have to play 50+ games this season, which isn't ideal.
70M for Ugarte? So basically they would go ahead and use that 70M to buy Neves instead? No thanks.
Again in July that wasn’t the brief (see your own reaction to reports), what PSG actually wanted and what we paid is also different.Ornstein confirmed today that PSG wanted 60M fixed, we negotiated for 50M+10M. Its not a bad deal, but I dont see it as a great bargain/price as some are saying either. I dont care either way now, just glad this saga is over. Its his performances which will tell us whether we got a good deal.
How much in the context of this window (see previous post) do you think he should be going for and why?The fee is still far from ideal IMO, and I've discussed his limitations as a player several times in this thread, but the club obviously know way more than any of us in here, and they seem to be sure that Ugarte is the player to go for this summer. I hope he proves me wrong, but I think a new defensive midfielder will still be needed relatively soon, probably next summer, to be honest. I'd also like to see one more midfielder arrive this summer in addition to Ugarte, who's a good passer and can play Mainoo's position in the XI. If that doesn't happen, Mainoo will have to play 50+ games this season, which isn't ideal.
Agreed. I mean I’d love Neves, but I don’t see where he would fit into our side and having two 19 year olds running CM in the PL would just be a disaster.Neves is the deal that sticks out there. Definitely some type of backroom deal underpinning that price.
The rest show it's a reasonable transfer fee for a 23-year-old with high level experience, and a fantastic attitude, in a position of need.
The fact we've sold McTominay and Hannibal for a combined price of around £35 million in the opposite direction makes it even more reasonable.
Exactly my thoughts here too. Palhinha is the deal our previous regime would have sanctioned but we’re getting a high energy pressing and ball winning midfielder entering their peak years.Palhinha an obvious comparison given one replaced the other at Sporting. And I'd certainly prefer to buy a 23 year old Ugarte for €50m+ over a 29 year old Palhinha for approx the same.
I'd be surprised as he never did any preseason and I couldn't imagine him going that hard in training when he didn't want to be at the club.Finally! Glad it's done, will be a big boost to the squad, missing his kinda profile for a while now.
Don't get the comparison to Scotty. He's a DM and Scotty is a SS/CAM, at least the way we utilised him. We shouldn't have been relying on him for the goals, they should come from our other attacking threats.
Think we'll see him get a few minutes this weekend and then start after the break. Like Nous and Antony before, ETH won't take time to bed him in, we don't have an alternative profile to him.
Do you not get how contracts work?Not really what I'm getting at.
They are ALWAYS an issue when we try to sell them.
Something tells me you haven't seen Ugarte play. Ugarte is going to be Casemiro's legs.Start Ugarte against Liverpool....
Casemiro immediately realises in training he's going to be sidelined the rest of the season.....
He then explores leaving before Fridays deadline.....
If he leaves, we then sign Amrabat as the 2nd choice CDM on a permanent deal.
When this season is over, we now have our new Malian CDM who is now ready to support Ugarte the following season and compete with Amrabat for the 2nd choice CDM position.
Family member wearing 'Camo' is a red flag for me.Worryingly bald
De Ligt was way behind on his preseason. Ugarte has 7 lungs so that’s not going to be an issue.Ugarte won't start at the weekend. De Ligt can't even start a game yet
Yea, no, as you saw it’s just an early suggestion for the Ugarte song thread.
Thank you!
And thank you too.