Let's wait and see about that.
Manuel Ugarte | Romano - he’s signed | Awaiting Club announcement
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But the players you mentioned in your earlier post are also not elite and even below average in areas like passing, none of the ones you mentioned has better passing stats than Ugarte aside from Neves, be it completion stats or passing distance or key passes or chance creation, Onana is a physical beast, Mainoo is a superb ball carrier, not sure what to say about Lavia, but Ugarte is excellent in interception and tackles, each has an area they are the best in but they are limited in other areas and your analogy on the difference between AWB & Mazraoui does not apply since AWB was very limited in many areas and only excelled in last ditch on the ground tackles.
Yeah sure, I tend not have blind faith, I'll see it before believing.
I agree with the rest of our post, and like you said, there's a profile mismatch with the type of football we wanna play. But PSG binning him because he doesnt fit Enrique's possession style does say something. But I dont think ETH even wants that, so we are good on that front I guess(until ETH is sacked)
what I expected as well, €52m is an excellent transfer fee recoup for PSG as they paid €60 only last summer, and a good deal for us (below £45m).
Then why are you taking such a negative slant more often than not? Surely more healthy to be a bit more hopeful and positive?
Calling anyone who is not confident about a signing a "hater", is so childish, kinda pathetic
More so when we have a track record of signing players like Mount, Antony, Casemiro, Sancho etc, its not like we have a flawless record on transfers..were people who doubted those transfers haters too? Do you need to blindly support every decision United makes to be a top red?
Also makes zero sense. Someone who doesnt rate Ugarte would be hoping we dont spend too much money on him.
Edit : wait arent you the guy who had a major metldown when FdJ deal collapsed? Now its starting to make sense
So none of the players you mentioned were signed under INEOS..
What’s your point if it’s based on that?
in previous posts I said £45m is what I thought the club should be, so I am pleased if it ends up that way.
Maybe we should get out the amortization analysis sheet again to lift everyone’s spirit. Or a thorough stats analysis with web graphs.
Looking forward for the price reports to go from €50m to £50m plus addons and end up at 5 tons of gold with a bagful of first class diamonds in addons!
I think PSR is helping to control the market and cap the insane fees we were seeing, but there’s no doubt us being run by competent people helps too. £42m is sensible.
He's not that bad. But he's not better than decent. I've seen his every match with PSG and he looked pretty damn good there for the first few months. But as time went it became more apparent that his on ball abilities weren't up to the system's standards. But that's a bit of an extreme case because Enrique's PSG does like a million short passes during the game and you have to be better than decent (the likes of Fabian Ruiz barely fit in) to make it.
But he does seem to be aware of his limitations, so he plays a simple brand of football. Hence the high percentages in accuracy. He'll tackle (not the cleanest of tacklers and can be reckless) and provide your midfield with grit and resilience.
That gesture he did against Argentina and Messi's "war boys" made me a fan for life.
In all fairness, it's been a relatively tame window for the whole of Europe in general.This guy is really milking every single drop out of this one.
your description in the bolded is what I also think as well, we struggled with players like Fred & McTominay who messed up simple 5 yards passes, Casemiro also is somewhat erratic with his passing, Mainoo is a safe passer, and if Ugarte is a safe passer too then at least we will be able to string few passes togther as a team, without conceding possession because someone can't make a simple 5 yards pass.
Yeah I’ll be interested to see the total spent at the end of the window. It’s been going up every year, the PL alone has frequently spent over a billion. But now PSR has got everyone shitting their kecks.
Apart from one team...
Not even 115 charges makes their butt pucker. Let’s hope that changes early next year…
Excited to get this done, but probably too soon to impact v Liverpool unfortunately. This is the sort of signing that makes conceding goals like the ones v Brighton less likely.
INEOS folks are humans too, they will also make mistakes in the market, everyone does, and are not gonna be perfect, its wild to even expect that. All we can hope for is a better success rate than the old era.
Ugarte is the only signing I have been against for footballing reasons. I've explained many times why, and I would be the happiest guy if I'm wrong(I was wrong about Amrabat being a good signing, like most of us here). Commercially in terms of negotiation I think we've done well, if we manage to get the Ugarte/Mctominay deals over the line on the current rumoured terms.
If you see me being negative, understand its only because I dont want us to get battered on matchday and hear bullshit from rival fans. Not because I have any agenda against any player/coach.
We've seen too many times what happens when a player goes from Portugal, to a major league, like Premier League, or La Liga. For a lot of players, it's just too steep of a jump. I'm not sure if the system was not right for him in PSG or he was simply not in form, but he looked all over the place in some of the Champion League games, like Newcastle and AC Milan.
With that being said, I hope from the bottom of my heart that you are right.
Is this what you got from reading this thread? Or is this the only time you’ve watched him play?
Is he a good communicator ?
Not as good as Neves, he's an elite communicator.
Of course they are human but you are using the past to suggest the current is wrong.
Surely you see that’s disingenuous to say the least and you have to judge INEOS on what they do rather than what the club has done in the past under poor leadership?
It makes no sense
he is PUSHING!
One major incoming you say?
So the last incoming transfer?
I think he means Ugarte.
Yeah I'm disappointed if that's true
I wouldn't rule out a forward. I have a feeling transfer deadline day this year is going to be abit mad for us. Incomings and outgoings.
I was suggesting that means there could be other players coming in.
I think people are so burnt by those videos from the PSG games against Newcastle and Milan they now see him as some average midfielder
You could make a comp of any player having a shit game or two
Would take Toney or even Calvert-Lewin IF he could actually stay fit which looks a challenge
Toney , definitely. But not Calvert Lewin. I liked what I saw of him when he broke through but injuries have really taken there toll on him.
Either it’s a typo and it’s a meeting of Jim Ratcliffe with Andy Burnham, or they’ve found the relics of Harry Stafford’s dog.
52m euros is a decent fee, hopefully that's true. Good signing, not a transformative one but he'll give us more bite in the big matches.
Indeed. I'm quite excited to see what he will bring.
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