I think most people accepted that this season and the build up to it was about getting the support structures in place and doing some business in the transfer window. Nobody expected a complete rebuild of the first team squad. Rome wasn’t built in a day
Most folks are already dreaming up a 100M bid for Wharton next season, essentially thinking of replacing Ugarte befoere we even sign him. Doesnt bode well, particularly at this price point.This, for me, is why this transfer doesn’t make sense for a fee north of £30m.
If we’re not going to be the finished article this season, why spend large sums of cash on a flawed player who doesn’t really do what we need?
Which striker is available this late in the market? Toney probably the best option but that's a bit mehI’d still kick the payments down the track to next year if it means we can invest in a further midfielder or striker. I know we need a left back but honestly covering that position isn’t as bad as being light in either of the other areas
Most folks are already dreaming up a 100M bid for Wharton next season, essentially thinking of replacing Ugarte befoere we even sign him. Doesnt bode well, particularly at this price point.
Most folks are already dreaming up a 100M bid for Wharton next season, essentially thinking of replacing Ugarte befoere we even sign him. Doesnt bode well, particularly at this price point.
I think we need someone like him. Neither Mainoo or Casemiro have the stamina to last matches. Our depth is very poor after that.This, for me, is why this transfer doesn’t make sense for a fee north of £30m.
If we’re not going to be the finished article this season, why spend large sums of cash on a flawed player who doesn’t really do what we need?
Make do, muddle through, keep the cash for next summer, and see what’s available then.
This transfer feels like an AwB or Maguire transfer. Retrospectively not bad if it’s at the right price, but he’ll become a spacegoat the minute his limits become apparent at a higher fee.
I'm not a huge fan of Wharton. I think he's overrated on account of being English.Most?
You must account for 95% of the most. 4% being LuckyScout
I think we need someone like him. Neither Mainoo or Casemiro have the stamina to last matches. Our depth is very poor after that.
The way some united fans write off signings before they’ve even played is tiresome.Most folks are already dreaming up a 100M bid for Wharton next season, essentially thinking of replacing Ugarte befoere we even sign him. Doesnt bode well, particularly at this price point.
This is a pretty underrated transfer saga. Been dragging since June. And all for about 10m euros.How much can we get to a signing without actually making a signing?
Hopefully he's quality signing for ten Hag but also for the club in general when another manager comes in. Most probably our transfer window is finished when McTominay and Ugarte deal go through at some point next week.
If we were going to sign Rabiot I think we would have done it by now.That would be disappointing because need to get proven goalscorer and Rabiot on free too
We're hearing very little about Eriksen leaving, and no talk about bringing another midfielder in. The midfielders we've been linked to seem to be us trying to signal to PSG that we have alternatives to Ugarte if they don't lower their demands. There's very little suggestion that we're looking at another midfielder after Ugarte.
Frankly, given how bad our midfield was last season it's criminal there hasn't been a complete rebuild of this area. It's extremely concerning they think 1 midfield signing is enough.
We've gone into the new season with weaker midfield options than last season. We seem to do this every summer where we suffer bad results in the first 3 games of the season because we can't get our transfer business done early. 2 quality midfielders signed earlier in the window and we likely win that game yesterday. De Ligt not having any pre-season and so sat on the bench is another example of how not getting business done early costs us. These are points that could cost us come the end of the season.
We've been pissing up far more than that on players we didn't even need, while our midfield is crying out for someone like him now.£35m+ seems a lot for a backup, or special circumstances player.
If we were going to sign Rabiot I think we would have done it by now.
Feel sorry for the guy already, some have him as the final jigsaw piece to our team. If he doesn’t turn up in game one the knives will be out already. I’m sure ETH won’t play him for the first 2 months anyway.
We ll need to get rid of someone else if we are bring in Rabiot.Not so sure as deal can be done outside of window, so maybe if we can't find someone before Friday then may explore it again
I'm quite happy so far.The way some united fans write off signings before they’ve even played is tiresome.
- Ugarte not good enough
- De Ligt injury prone and a reject
- Mazraoui crock and EtH player.
- Zirkzee not enough goals and Dutch
Seems the only ones that some get excited about are the fashionable ones of the hour, some of them they’ve probably never seen play (Yoro for example).
Wish people would get behind players instead of writing them off. Sure there’s some that want them to fail just so they’re proven right and can say ‘I called it right’.
It’s boring.
You’ve missed †he word ‘rational’ out a few times in this post!I think most people accepted that this season and the build up to it was about getting the support structures in place and doing some business in the transfer window. Nobody expected a complete rebuild of the first team squad. Rome wasn’t built in a day
I think De Ligt wasn’t to blame for that goal. McT wasn’t looking behind him and Christ knows who was covering LBI'm quite happy so far.
Yoro looked good but shit happens.
Mazraoui has slotted in nicely.
Zirkzee looks promising despite the daftest disallowed goal you'll ever see.
De Ligt is the only one I can excuse on the Brighton winner, as it was his side and he hasn't played with us enough to be second-guessing that we occasionally defend like schoolboys following the ball around. Mind, I would have preferred to see him wise up to the collective brainfart underway.
Feel sorry for the guy already, some have him as the final jigsaw piece to our team. If he doesn’t turn up in game one the knives will be out already. I’m sure ETH won’t play him for the first 2 months anyway.
Takes time to integrate new players into our well oiled machine.Yes, 15-20 minute cameos for first 4-5 games, take it to the bank.
Aye, that's what I say, last one to blame. Would still be more impressed at someone not having to be there realising someone should, that's all.I think De Ligt wasn’t to blame for that goal. McT wasn’t looking behind him and Christ knows who was covering LB
We ll need to get rid of someone else if we are bring in Rabiot.
Madrid had been successful with someone like Case in their midfield. Milan used to have Gattuso on their successful period.I want somebody who can put a foot in, but I just don’t think it’s the key characteristic of one of two midfielders long term. It really shouldn’t be that hard to find somebody who can play football and will work hard too, Mainoo is showing promising signs of that in the 60m he currently lasts for.
Ugarte’d be decent as somebody we could bring in when needed, and I’m fine with him at a low fee with that in mind. But the fee can ruin a player at United. £35m+ seems a lot for a backup, or special circumstances player.
Not when we gave been needy to make cap space in the 25. Right bow Mctominay out Ugarte in is one for one. Unless Sancho or Eriksen leave. I don't believe we can add another above 21 year old.If we were going to sign Rabiot I think we would have done it by now.
The entire side was ball watching. It was a collective loss of concentration.I think De Ligt wasn’t to blame for that goal. McT wasn’t looking behind him and Christ knows who was covering LB
Not when we gave been needy to make cap space in the 25. Right bow Mctominay out Ugarte in is one for one. Unless Sancho or Eriksen leave. I don't believe we can add another above 21 year old.
Other than Amrabat “playing” at LB, Ugarte is better than him in every footballing aspect.With McT sale, Ugarte will be announced in the next couple days for sure.
Let's hope he is everything we are hoping for in a ball-winning DMF, and not just another Amrabat, just much more expensive
