The No Onanas ClubAgreed. Besides one Onana at the club is bad enough, don't want another Onana.
Tell me a top team who plays with a pure DMBut he isn't a lone DM, and we really need that type of player, especially with Casemiro probably on his way out.
We offered 25 mil for a player they paid 51mil for just a year ago.. sure.
Most players we buy we'd happily sell for half what we paid
Not after 1 year. Maybe when their contracts are coming to an end. Doesn’t he have something like 5 years left ?
We wouldn't sell them. PSG may be of the same opinion but from what I've read they are open to the idea. 40m will probably get it done.If we tried to sell Onana or Mount right now, how much do you think we'd get?
We wouldn't sell them. PSG may be of the same opinion but from what I've read they are open to the idea. 40m will probably get it done.
I said in the thread earlier and I'd love to see a double pivot of Neves and Ugarte.. I like the idea of bringing Alex Scott in also.. get a bit more young English in the squad.
I also thought Bruno looked incredible in the False 9... could be the way forward.
What happens to Mainoo?
Maybe he is not in the teamWe offered 25 mil for a player they paid 51mil for just a year ago.. sure.
Yes and hes been warming the bench for the past 3 monthsNot after 1 year. Maybe when their contracts are coming to an end. Doesn’t he have something like 5 years left ?
Why are they up for selling him?
Yes and hes been warming the bench for the past 3 months
Luis Enrique is their coach, so I imagine they want a bit more for the tiki taka.
We won't get anywhere paying the Man United tax either.We’ll get absolutely nowhere if we think we are going to turn this squad into an all conquering one with only 25m signings. And because I doubt we are that deluded, I doubt this is all true at all.
What happens to Mainoo?
I get that.. but they might not want to half what they paid for him, they’re not strapped for cash. They will more than likely want their money back or there abouts.
So you would make your first bid 50m?…. Seems smartI get that.. but they might not want to half what they paid for him, they’re not strapped for cash. They will more than likely want their money back or there abouts.
Why are we upset at starting bidding low? It’s called negotiation. Some people will get upset at anything round here…
Based on his initial fee, ffp amort, wages, and fit for PSG, feels like a good deal is 32-35m and 5-7m in add-ons. If we want him, we can get there
he doesn’t get wrecked playing 50 games a season
We won't be getting both thoughLet me alter my question then.
Lets say we were to get Neves and Ugarte, along with Mainoo, who would be you first choice pivot out of the aforementioned players?
I think it's quite clear who it would be, as you stated you'd ''love to see a double pivot of Neves and Ugarte'', but I'd love to hear your opinion. And before you say, it depends on the game, lets imagine we have a cup final being played, who would you pick?
Regardless of who the signings are, we should rotate 3 players for 2 spots if we do this formation - that’s pretty standard. He should not be starting every game as a teenager anyway.
Not a chance we get both, none. We buy one DM and then a lot other positions to fill.Let me alter my question then.
Lets say we were to get Neves and Ugarte, along with Mainoo, who would be you first choice pivot out of the aforementioned players?
I think it's quite clear who it would be, as you stated you'd ''love to see a double pivot of Neves and Ugarte'', but I'd love to hear your opinion. And before you say, it depends on the game, lets imagine we have a cup final being played, who would you pick?
Agree being alongside Mainoo is not the same as Valverde. But then, the issue would be Mainoo.
If we expect him to develop into someone capable of playing in a double pivot, then Ugarte is as solid an all-terrain partner as we could get for him. That's where I'm at. Not overly optimistic, but it would be criminal to give up on it altogether.
If we don't, then Mainoo should play further up, be it alongside Bruno or with him as false 9, with Rashford and Garnacho either side.
In that scenario our most credible candidate for the two double pivot slots is Amrabat. God, I miss Djemba-Djemba, two birds one stone.
It would more likely have to be a three man midfield with a single pivot, in which case I'd have Ugarte over Amrabat. I don't not rate him, but I wouldn't go into the season with that as Plan A.
I can see Ugarte and Licha working pretty well together and would be more focused on getting the right CB partner than another midfielder for a double pivot.
We won't be getting both though
Let me alter my question then.
Lets say we were to get Neves and Ugarte, along with Mainoo, who would be you first choice pivot out of the aforementioned players?
I think it's quite clear who it would be, as you stated you'd ''love to see a double pivot of Neves and Ugarte'', but I'd love to hear your opinion. And before you say, it depends on the game, lets imagine we have a cup final being played, who would you pick?
Zaire Emery to step up?
Seems like we are very skint. Putting bids in for players at 25m. I mean it shows we don’t want to get robbed from now on but I highly doubt we’re signing anyone under 50m nowadays unless they have a release clause.
Disagree with this. If those numbers are real (and let's be honest I'm sure they're plucked out of thin air), then I think an initial £25m bid is fine. Next bid will be £30m plus add-ons, lots of press, player now really sitting with the idea, his agent perhaps starting to exert some pressure. Probably we end up with £35-40m plus add-ons, which is a sensible reduction of their initial £50m starting position. And in my opinion, good value for Ugarte.
They need funds to buy Neves.Why are they up for selling him?
Most players we buy we'd happily sell for half what we paid
They already replaced him in the 11Thats because we buy players and then they flop. He played plenty and did well for a £50 million signing in their first season and remains PSG's only defensive minded midfielder. Danilo is 32, nowhere near as good and was converted to play CB. So unless they are signing a new DM and want to raise funds its an unrealistic transfer
