Like Ugarte? Or Amrabat last year?
Manuel Ugarte | Romano - he’s signed | Awaiting Club announcement
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
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It’s amazing how many posters went haywire and said he is definitely the answer to our #6 issue as soon as he was linked but didn’t mention a word about him before hand. It’s so bizarre.
It's crazy there are genuine people on here who would have McKenna as manager and Berge running the midfield I feel like my head is going to explode from the madness
Love players who actively push to join us. Hopefully we sign him.
Ugarte isn't a random player.
Amrabat's stocks were high after the World Cup, and it was a clear bargain bin option.
To pretend they are the same to Sander Berge is just funny.
He is just pessimistic about every signing and then claims he is right about them IF they don’t work out. Don’t bother.
Loads have convinced themsleves Ugarte is the answer as he's the player we've been most linked with. You were probably one of those saying Amrabat was a must sign last summer and look how that turned out.
Foreign signings that most have barely seen are always more hyped on here.
Precisely! The player becomes the missing piece until they join and aren't that great and we look for a new saviour. Schneiderlin was another one.
Every player is different, this ain’t math, you can’t extrapolate the past to the future. Ugarte will be here and he will be amazing!!
Would love a deadline day transfer. Haven't had one of those since Berbatov?
We've had quite a few in recent years since tbf:
Fellaini, Blind, Martial, Telles, Pellestri, Cavani, Ronaldo 2.0 and Antony were all deadline day deals
Have you even seen him play?
I am Ugarte in. I think he's got the skillset for what we need at the price we can afford. However I can understand why INEOS might pull the plug out of the deal. First of all what PSG are asking is outrageous. Secondly there's deficiencies in Ugarte's game that might see him slot in a squad player role. It only takes Mainoo not developing the way we think he's developing and voila we've got a problem. There's also rumors that INEOS might dip in the transfer market for a better midfielder in 12 months time once McT, Eriksen and Casemiro leave the club (Wharton is being mentioned)
Ugarte is the better player however Berge would slot better in the squad player role so to speak. I also believe that the championship is an underrated league tbh. Sure its nowhere near as technical as the EPL is but in some aspects (ex pace, tempo and physicality) its very similar to the EPL
To conclude I prefer seeing us signing Ugarte. However the terms (fee and salary) must be right.
Ugarte is the better player however Berge would slot better in the squad player role so to speak. I also believe that the championship is an underrated league tbh. Sure its nowhere near as technical as the EPL is but in some aspects (ex pace, tempo and physicality) its very similar to the EPL
To conclude I prefer seeing us signing Ugarte. However the terms (fee and salary) must be right.
Yeah like Antony Dos Santos.
But good to see Ineos know this?
If we can get him for 40m or less, buy… if not, look at alternatives… if no value there, wait til next season. All seems planned and calm.
As opposed to the morons we used to have who did stupid things like paying over Fellainis release clause
Yeah my thoughts exactly, agree we need someone who offers that too but is also realistically available
Onana was the one to go for.
We should still be looking to dip into the market for midfielder next year even if we sign him
I was thinking more along the lines of Berge's agent, or cousin.
Clearly we either didn't think so or he wasn't attracted enough to the project we are building. I am surprised Villa didn't have more competition for him.
I think he is far from being someone who will "make us tick" but he sure as feck calms things down. He is very astute and aware, an intelligent player who isn't just muscle and fire in his belly.
I said it months ago, I think he has qualities which would allow him to mature into someone like Deschamps with the right coaching.
Obviously you haven't hyped anyone, you moan about absolutely everything
No he wasn’t. He’s rubbish. Just because he scored a goal for Villa. Ugarte is 10x the player and offers more than just height.
I think we'll get Ugarte and he'll be great for us. If his ability to win the ball and shut down attacks before they get troublesome isn't overblown i think he'll be a very nice addition to the team. Based off what I've seen of him as well he can at least carry the ball to beat a press unlike current Casemiro who's very static.
He doesn't have to be an elite passer, imo we've got enough of that in the first XI. Players like Martinez, Fernandes, Dalot, Shaw (when fit) and imo Mazraoui as well are capable of pinging the ball around the pitch. Mainoo and both fullbacks are more than capable of getting into midfield and helping with the build up play. Just let Ugarte be the bulldog in midfield, if he's half as good as a Casemiro at his peak then he'll be a great signing. I think he'll be in a Man Utd shirt by next Saturday.
He doesn't have to be an elite passer, imo we've got enough of that in the first XI. Players like Martinez, Fernandes, Dalot, Shaw (when fit) and imo Mazraoui as well are capable of pinging the ball around the pitch. Mainoo and both fullbacks are more than capable of getting into midfield and helping with the build up play. Just let Ugarte be the bulldog in midfield, if he's half as good as a Casemiro at his peak then he'll be a great signing. I think he'll be in a Man Utd shirt by next Saturday.
Can't wait. Palhinha would have been a smashing player for us when the Sporting fans on here were clamouring for us to sign him to play ahead of Fred and McT. The same key ones have been saying that Ugarte is the better player who beat Palhinha for a starting spot.
It still blows my mind that so many posters claim he isn't press resistant nor creative (for a tenacious DM).
Have the same posters thought about how we'll out-compete Pep if we use a similar system without the same quality of players at his disposal? Because by insisting for the likes of Zubimendi and so on we're just going to be City-lite.
It still blows my mind that so many posters claim he isn't press resistant nor creative (for a tenacious DM).
Have the same posters thought about how we'll out-compete Pep if we use a similar system without the same quality of players at his disposal? Because by insisting for the likes of Zubimendi and so on we're just going to be City-lite.
I would but either a second midfielder who can play 6/8 or a LB, want this one to be wrapped up in time for Brighton. Worrying we keep seeing tweets about this will be done by Aug 30 or by deadline. Suggests to me there is still a lot to work to do for this to be sorted
Falcao flew in on a private jet deadline day
Desperately hoping he is in Utd shirt by then, has that same feel as when Amrabat was pushing for the move last season
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I can guarantee you Onana is way better than Ugarte.
So why wasn't there more competition from others?
That’s why he ended up at Villa.
Did you suggest we sign Berge before we were linked with him?
Don't think he will because he's talking nonsense.
At what? Ugarte has more balls won, better passing, better dribbling, more assists. Onana scored more goals so will give you that
Midfield is crying out for a player like Ugarte, out of possession especially and there is definitely a place for Sander Berge too.
Ugarte compliments Mainoo and allows him to be more free flowing.
Ugarte compliments Mainoo and allows him to be more free flowing.
The stats agree with me
Ugarte 91% pass success vs 85% Onana
I've just analysed the Fulham game and Casemiro is even more important than I thought to our system. We definitely need to bring another player in who can do similar things, if not better, in the build up and in defence. Ugarte is basically his regen. The main trade-offs are aerial ability and experience in exchange for press resistance (and due to age, energy + some pace).
This is one where we may need to overpay unfortunately. Or find a better target. It is also a role where I can see the new signing needing a couple of weeks to learn the patterns of play and triggers. So even if we sign Ugarte today I don't think we'll see him feature heavily till mid Sep after the int'l break.
This is one where we may need to overpay unfortunately. Or find a better target. It is also a role where I can see the new signing needing a couple of weeks to learn the patterns of play and triggers. So even if we sign Ugarte today I don't think we'll see him feature heavily till mid Sep after the int'l break.
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Don't mind if he doesn't get up to speed until after that international break, just want to get him through the doors ideally this week but feels like it could drag on.
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