Manchester United view sidelining Marcus Rashford as key to cultural reboot

His performances haven't been good enough since the season before last. If he's sold he really can't complain, at this stage it would be best for everyone. But I don't like this idea of publicly dragging one or two players over the coals. It didn't achieve much for Ten Hag when he did it to Sancho. If Rashford has to go fine, keep him on the bench or give him the odd start and then sell him quietly in January. I don't see the benefit of creating such a big drama out of it.
 
This is exactly what we've needed for a long time. Get rid of the players who have delusions of grandeur and are not good enough. Take that poor attitude out of the club and we'll see improvements.
 
stevoc said:
His performances haven't been good enough since the season before last. If he's sold he really can't complain, at this stage it would be best for everyone. But I don't like this idea of publicly dragging one or two players over the coals. It didn't achieve much for Ten Hag when he did it to Sancho. If Rashford has to go fine, keep him on the bench or give him the odd start and then sell him quietly in January. I don't see the benefit of creating such a big drama out of it.
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Have to say, I appreciate the way Amorim did it.

He could have easily just dropped one of them so the spotlight is immediately on them. But he drops both so the focus isn't on one guy.

It will end up being on Rashford anyway because of the agenda, so I don't think there's any way to get rid of him on the sly. I think even Rashford himself feels he needs it to happen. The guy plays like he hates football. Obviously the agenda thing doesn't help him though. But there comes a point where you have to force him to help himself.
 
If he is not actually still injured but keeping it quiet, I am sorry but he should never play for United again.
 
I dont know what it is but Rashfords style of play has completely changed, he will not run at players anymore and take them on, he just passes sideways, that coupled with he doesnt look arsed anymore even after a new manager with a clean slate has started means it has to be the end for him at United.
 
I liked Rashford the first time I saw him play. I never doubted that he had the ability and the technical attributes to be a top player for us. I rated him more highly that most posters on here and certainly way higher than the players he was being chosen ahead of.

Far from being protected by his local boy/academy product stuff - most RefCafe posters (in common with a lot of social media) seemed to use it as a derisive taunt to attack him with when his form dropped.

I felt bad for him at times. He did play on through injuries. He kept making runs for passes that never materialised. In a misfiring team with zero confidence - and we often were - he sometimes had the magic touch to change things.

I honestly think the pressure got to him. Yes, the pressure of social media and endless scrutiny that intensified when he missed a penalty for England. Also though, the pressure of being looked to as United's star player and potential saviour - in a United team that needed more saving than he was capable of delivering.

In the end though - there's no dodging pressure. It's part of the Manchester United top player job description. He's not the first to buckle under it and he won't be the last, but it is part of the job and if he can't now handle it he has to go.

I don't know if he's already past the point of no return for us - I suspect he is, if only because I don't think he's a player who thrives under pressure.

I won't be celebrating if he leaves. I'll understand why it might be the best for him and us. But I'll still be disappointed.
 
BaguetteBoy said:
SAF always said no one is bigger than the club. If he’s not putting a shift in and sulking and dragging other players into his routine, he’s not being a good role model he needs to go. He’s not a kid anymore others look at him now
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Exactly.

It's mad that for years we tried to bring back 'the United way' while failing to understand some of the key factors that made SAF so successful. We let the likes of Rashford, Pogba, Ronaldo and many more get bigger than the club.

Mourinho tried to fix it, we didn't let him, and he also came with a bucket load of his own problems.
 
jojojo said:
I liked Rashford the first time I saw him play. I never doubted that he had the ability and the technical attributes to be a top player for us. I rated him more highly that most posters on here and certainly way higher than the players he was being chosen ahead of.

Far from being protected by his local boy/academy product stuff - most RefCafe posters (in common with a lot of social media) seemed to use it as a derisive taunt to attack him with when his form dropped.

I felt bad for him at times. He did play on through injuries. He kept making runs for passes that never materialised. In a misfiring team with zero confidence - and we often were - he sometimes had the magic touch to change things.

I honestly think the pressure got to him. Yes, the pressure of social media and endless scrutiny that intensified when he missed a penalty for England. Also though, the pressure of being looked to as United's star player and potential saviour - in a United team that needed more saving than he was capable of delivering.

In the end though - there's no dodging pressure. It's part of the Manchester United top player job description. He's not the first to buckle under it and he won't be the last, but it is part of the job and if he can't now handle it he has to go.

I don't know if he's already past the point of no return for us - I suspect he is, if only because I don't think he's a player who thrives under pressure.

I won't be celebrating if he leaves. I'll understand why it might be the best for him and us. But I'll still be disappointed.
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Well said Jo. Personally I think he listens to his mojo years ago, which might tie in with the whole pressure of being a Manchester United player and a Tory target.
 
jojojo said:
I liked Rashford the first time I saw him play. I never doubted that he had the ability and the technical attributes to be a top player for us. I rated him more highly that most posters on here and certainly way higher than the players he was being chosen ahead of.

Far from being protected by his local boy/academy product stuff - most RefCafe posters (in common with a lot of social media) seemed to use it as a derisive taunt to attack him with when his form dropped.

I felt bad for him at times. He did play on through injuries. He kept making runs for passes that never materialised. In a misfiring team with zero confidence - and we often were - he sometimes had the magic touch to change things.

I honestly think the pressure got to him. Yes, the pressure of social media and endless scrutiny that intensified when he missed a penalty for England. Also though, the pressure of being looked to as United's star player and potential saviour - in a United team that needed more saving than he was capable of delivering.

In the end though - there's no dodging pressure. It's part of the Manchester United top player job description. He's not the first to buckle under it and he won't be the last, but it is part of the job and if he can't now handle it he has to go.

I don't know if he's already past the point of no return for us - I suspect he is, if only because I don't think he's a player who thrives under pressure.

I won't be celebrating if he leaves. I'll understand why it might be the best for him and us. But I'll still be disappointed.
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Pretty much spot on and well put. It’s a sad spectacle to watch unfold. The sooner it is over the better.

Still a big part of me would love to see his early desire return but sadly it seems too late.
 
devilish said:
United should have had a homegrown core of players that could rival the class of 92. I am referring to the likes of Rashford, Pogba, Lingard and Greenwood. Yet every single one of them kind of lost his way. Which throw serious doubt of how kids had been managed at United to make sure that we're grounding them and making sure that they'll getting the correct game/development ratio.

Rashford is the prime example of what's going wrong on that front. He was bled prematurely by LVG in a bid to rescue his career after foolishly opting for a ridiculously small pool of players. Soon enough United made him the face of the brand while successive managers relied on him for goals with no care in the world on keeping him grounded or to further develop his skills. Thus Rashford became this one dimensional players whose only effective in one style of football (counter attacking football) and is ridiculously reliant on pace. Ole ran the kid to the ground and the idiots at the club gave him a contract which, back in the day, made him better paid to the likes of Salah. At one point Rashford became so untouchable that the manager himself had to publicly apologize to him because he dared criticizing him. Can you imagine SAF doing that?

I am in favor of Rashford being sold and I am not denying his share of fault either. He's 27 FFS and he should act as a senior player. However there's so many lessons for us to learn from it especially since we've got such a great bunch of players coming through, one of which is already showing similar traits to those shown by Rashy. I am glad that United had finally implemented a system were kids who aren't making the grade NOW are being sold immediately with a buy back clause attached to it. That's something many clubs had done or are doing (Real, Juventus, Barca) as it acts as a huge motivator for players to get their shit sorted and work hard to go back and prove the club wrong.
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You'd have thought we learnt all this with Ravel but nah...
 
jojojo said:
I liked Rashford the first time I saw him play. I never doubted that he had the ability and the technical attributes to be a top player for us. I rated him more highly that most posters on here and certainly way higher than the players he was being chosen ahead of.

Far from being protected by his local boy/academy product stuff - most RefCafe posters (in common with a lot of social media) seemed to use it as a derisive taunt to attack him with when his form dropped.

I felt bad for him at times. He did play on through injuries. He kept making runs for passes that never materialised. In a misfiring team with zero confidence - and we often were - he sometimes had the magic touch to change things.

I honestly think the pressure got to him. Yes, the pressure of social media and endless scrutiny that intensified when he missed a penalty for England. Also though, the pressure of being looked to as United's star player and potential saviour - in a United team that needed more saving than he was capable of delivering.

In the end though - there's no dodging pressure. It's part of the Manchester United top player job description. He's not the first to buckle under it and he won't be the last, but it is part of the job and if he can't now handle it he has to go.

I don't know if he's already past the point of no return for us - I suspect he is, if only because I don't think he's a player who thrives under pressure.

I won't be celebrating if he leaves. I'll understand why it might be the best for him and us. But I'll still be disappointed.
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Yep, somewhat similar to my thoughts. I think he's been messed around a lot under basically every manager apart from Ole, but if multiple managers are messing around with you, then maybe you are culpable. I'd love it to click now and this be the moment it changes for him under Amorim, but being left out of a squad for a derby for Lindelof and Eriksen speaks volumes. It is hard to come back from whatever lead to that decision.
 
jojojo said:
Far from being protected by his local boy/academy product stuff - most RefCafe posters (in common with a lot of social media) seemed to use it as a derisive taunt to attack him with when his form dropped.
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People will always talk about a players form. Thats absolutely par for the course. What they can't stand, and rightly so is a player than is on frankly absurd money who doesn't put in a shift for the team or the fans. The fans that by and large have feck all and pay a lot of money and dedicate a lot of time to support them. Thats literally the minimum you expect from players. I wouldn't say that our players in general have had super high effort levels over the past 10 years because mediocrity has been allowed to become the norm. All that means though is that you don't even have to put in a good level of effort to be making par. The fact he has stood out like a sore thumb far too often for this speaks volumes.

The fact he kept putting out PR pieces about how much he cares and how hard he works also doesn't really endear you to people when you show them the complete opposite week after week.

His "local boy from the academy" background should only have helped him and it certainly has in most ways. Salary, tolerance for his shit. Chance after chance. New contracts. Unsurprisingly however, when people have a lot of affection for you and you don't reciprocate they tend to feel strongly still, just in the opposite direction.

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I felt bad for him at times. He did play on through injuries. He kept making runs for passes that never materialised. In a misfiring team with zero confidence - and we often were - he sometimes had the magic touch to change things.
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His ability to change games from nothing is the only reason he is still at the club and why we are paying him such absurd money. In a team that wasn't a complete mess he would have been out of the door a long time ago. Again, you can look at these things as "oh poor Marcus" or you can look at them as making his life easier as well.
 
I feel sorry for him too. Because I think he’s essentially a decent bloke. I mean that should go without saying, with his school lunches initiative.

I don’t think we should feel sorry for him because he was playing under pressure, or as part of a poor team. That’s life as a professional footballer. And there are loads of examples of footballers who consistently turned up and produced for clubs who were a hell of a lot worse than the version of Manchester United he was playing for. Ultimately he wasn’t quite good enough. And this was compounded by his decision to become a player who didn’t compensate for that lack of quality by working his bollocks off every time he got on that pitch. All of which is on him, not anyone else.
 
TMDaines said:
Yep, somewhat similar to my thoughts. I think he's been messed around a lot under basically every manager apart from Ole, but if multiple managers are messing around with you, then maybe you are culpable. I'd love it to click now and this be the moment it changes for him under Amorim, but being left out of a squad for a derby for Lindelof and Eriksen speaks volumes. It is hard to come back from whatever lead to that decision.
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I don't think it's hard to come back from, just apply yourself. The noise will die down... You only have to look at Maguire

Where is Marcus head at? That's the question. He's been challenged, is he going to rise to it? Even if only to prove people wrong?
 
Steffa Barnesa said:
One problem is we're exactly the kind of club who would buy him. Hopefully PSG do.
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There are rumours that United are interested in Randal Kolo Muani

Who knows, it could be a straight swap. One player who rumour says isn't part of one manager's plans swapped for another who perhaps also isn't.

But if it's possible to unlock or relight something where they are, why do anything, and what guarantee is there of getting more out if they move?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I feel sorry for him too. Because I think he’s essentially a decent bloke. I mean that should go without saying, with his school lunches initiative.

I don’t think we should feel sorry for him because he was playing under pressure, or as part of a poor team. That’s life as a professional footballer. And there are loads of examples of footballers who consistently turned up and produced for clubs who were a hell of a lot worse than the version of Manchester United he was playing for. Ultimately he wasn’t quite good enough. And this was compounded by his decision to become a player who didn’t compensate for that lack of quality by working his bollocks off every time he got on that pitch. All of which is on him, not anyone else.
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I don't follow... anybody can feel sorry for anybody for any reason. Tbh empathy is a dying trait..
 
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afrocentricity said:
I don't follow... anybody can feel sorry for anybody for any reason. Tbh empathy is a dying trait..
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I don’t know why you don’t follow. I’m literally proving your point. I feel sorry for him for some reasons (decent bloke whose footballer career turned out badly) but not for others (career turned out badly for reasons not his fault)
 
jojojo said:
I liked Rashford the first time I saw him play. I never doubted that he had the ability and the technical attributes to be a top player for us. I rated him more highly that most posters on here and certainly way higher than the players he was being chosen ahead of.

Far from being protected by his local boy/academy product stuff - most RefCafe posters (in common with a lot of social media) seemed to use it as a derisive taunt to attack him with when his form dropped.

I felt bad for him at times. He did play on through injuries. He kept making runs for passes that never materialised. In a misfiring team with zero confidence - and we often were - he sometimes had the magic touch to change things.

I honestly think the pressure got to him. Yes, the pressure of social media and endless scrutiny that intensified when he missed a penalty for England. Also though, the pressure of being looked to as United's star player and potential saviour - in a United team that needed more saving than he was capable of delivering.

In the end though - there's no dodging pressure. It's part of the Manchester United top player job description. He's not the first to buckle under it and he won't be the last, but it is part of the job and if he can't now handle it he has to go.

I don't know if he's already past the point of no return for us - I suspect he is, if only because I don't think he's a player who thrives under pressure.

I won't be celebrating if he leaves. I'll understand why it might be the best for him and us. But I'll still be disappointed.
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Well said and how I feel, really.
 
I will gladly accept between 20-25 million pounds for Rashford. Use it to invest in a left back.


But if he grinds down, plays as hard as he can, runs himself into the ground, I am more than happy to have rashy back into the squad. The team always come first.
 
jojojo said:
I liked Rashford the first time I saw him play. I never doubted that he had the ability and the technical attributes to be a top player for us. I rated him more highly that most posters on here and certainly way higher than the players he was being chosen ahead of.

Far from being protected by his local boy/academy product stuff - most RefCafe posters (in common with a lot of social media) seemed to use it as a derisive taunt to attack him with when his form dropped.

I felt bad for him at times. He did play on through injuries. He kept making runs for passes that never materialised. In a misfiring team with zero confidence - and we often were - he sometimes had the magic touch to change things.

I honestly think the pressure got to him. Yes, the pressure of social media and endless scrutiny that intensified when he missed a penalty for England. Also though, the pressure of being looked to as United's star player and potential saviour - in a United team that needed more saving than he was capable of delivering.

In the end though - there's no dodging pressure. It's part of the Manchester United top player job description. He's not the first to buckle under it and he won't be the last, but it is part of the job and if he can't now handle it he has to go.

I don't know if he's already past the point of no return for us - I suspect he is, if only because I don't think he's a player who thrives under pressure.

I won't be celebrating if he leaves. I'll understand why it might be the best for him and us. But I'll still be disappointed.
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Agreed with every word. One of the few footballers i've really respected. Just a shame that his footballing career has gone this way, but he'll always be a top lad in my eyes. But at the same time, no man is bigger than the club, I really do hope he finds a way back to loving football again because he's not seemed happy for a long, long time.
 
What might be his saving grace is that Amorim has a very definite idea of how he wants Rashford to operate. It’s not playing on vibes or on the counter. It’s a disciplined role with work rate and focus for the full 90 mins. It might be contrary to how he’s played in his career so far but it’s akin to Giggs’ renaissance in midfield in the latter stages of his career. You can absolutely learn a new role and Marcus has the physical conditioning to do it.

Basically if Rashford is willing to put in the hard work I think there is a way back. He might need to ignore the critics and put his head down but I think he can do it if he really wants to. I don’t think he’ll go in the winter window. Just the costs involved make it unlikely.

I’d much prefer him to come good but it’s on him now.
 
How he ended up being talked about in his early days as a potential world class to now being considered a liability, it's sad.

It might be over for him at United, but I believe no one will come for him in Jan, so I do see him being included back in,and probably be given a literal final chance from now till summer, Amorim, now empowered by the huge away win vs City, showed he is ready to exclude him, and tell the media he expects more from Rashford, and Rashford can't PR his way out of this, nor can he is wait it out for all to go to shit and Amorim being fired, SJR is ready to sanction the sale of the club's poster boy and academy graduate.
 
Are these just rumors or reliable news?
Anyway, it's a wake up call for Rashford. Fans don't demand him to score every match but please show some attitude, fight for every half ball. That's all we ask.

Even Bruno gets criticized a lot but his work rate has been never the thing that people complained about.
 
When ETH came in, I had the impression he would iron out the squad and turn us into hard working players who ran for the badge.

ETH had all the necessary traits to do this - it's why many of us we're so excited about him. He was meticulous, assured and demanding. Player power won. Not all of that early promise came through at all.

Amorin gives me the exact same vibe. He has a style, he has a way, he has standards.

How absolutely refreshing to see big calls being made for the benefit of the team. I really hope this continues.

Rashford should have been sold years ago. He's done nothing to warrant his mental wages, he's been pulled up on disciplinary issue's across multiple managers and been out of form for years.

Rashford on paper is everything you'd want for a UTD fan. Home grown, talented, can excite with his dribbling, can score goals. In reality his ego is bigger than his talent, his desire to work hard is lacking, his footballing IQ is not there. He hasn't really improved since he broke into the team. He's turned into a shell of himself.

Pains me that he is still playing a part in our squad. The dropped standards, lack of effort and all round play has not been good enough from Rashford for years. He's 27. He isn't going to change.

He needs out of this club immediately
 
stevoc said:
His performances haven't been good enough since the season before last. If he's sold he really can't complain, at this stage it would be best for everyone. But I don't like this idea of publicly dragging one or two players over the coals. It didn't achieve much for Ten Hag when he did it to Sancho. If Rashford has to go fine, keep him on the bench or give him the odd start and then sell him quietly in January. I don't see the benefit of creating such a big drama out of it.
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Rashford cannot escape scrutiny. He has been part of the first team for nearly a decade. At 27 years old, he is now one of the senior players in the squad and among the highest paid footballers in the world. Playing for United naturally comes with immense expectations and he is held to a higher level of accountability, particularly when his performances and behavior do not meet the standards set by both the club and its fans and rightly so.
 
the halls at carrington are likely decorated with big names and successful players through the years

They should have wall in the gym with the less fortunate…as a stark reminder.

it would be hard for a young player not to be motivated whilst training and staring at Morrison, Januzaj, Macheda.
 
afrocentricity said:
I don't think it's hard to come back from, just apply yourself. The noise will die down... You only have to look at Maguire

Where is Marcus head at? That's the question. He's been challenged, is he going to rise to it? Even if only to prove people wrong?
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I wish I could be as positive and optimistic as you when it comes to Rashford. He once seemed like a humble lad who came through the academy but he quickly turned into a big time Charlie. The truth is Rashford only has himself to blame for his current struggles. I don’t see him reviving his career at United but I genuinely hope he proves me wrong.
 
jojojo said:
I liked Rashford the first time I saw him play. I never doubted that he had the ability and the technical attributes to be a top player for us. I rated him more highly that most posters on here and certainly way higher than the players he was being chosen ahead of.

Far from being protected by his local boy/academy product stuff - most RefCafe posters (in common with a lot of social media) seemed to use it as a derisive taunt to attack him with when his form dropped.

I felt bad for him at times. He did play on through injuries. He kept making runs for passes that never materialised. In a misfiring team with zero confidence - and we often were - he sometimes had the magic touch to change things.

I honestly think the pressure got to him. Yes, the pressure of social media and endless scrutiny that intensified when he missed a penalty for England. Also though, the pressure of being looked to as United's star player and potential saviour - in a United team that needed more saving than he was capable of delivering.

In the end though - there's no dodging pressure. It's part of the Manchester United top player job description. He's not the first to buckle under it and he won't be the last, but it is part of the job and if he can't now handle it he has to go.

I don't know if he's already past the point of no return for us - I suspect he is, if only because I don't think he's a player who thrives under pressure.

I won't be celebrating if he leaves. I'll understand why it might be the best for him and us. But I'll still be disappointed.
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Back then I thought Rashford's greatest weapon was his fearlessness. The moment he let the pressure got to him, he lost his biggest weapon.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I don’t know why you don’t follow. I’m literally proving your point. I feel sorry for him for some reasons (decent bloke whose footballer career turned out badly) but not for others (career turned out badly for reasons not his fault)
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Tbf I still don't know what you were saying in that post but at least this is clear
 
Gazautd18 said:
You'd have thought we learnt all this with Ravel but nah...
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Ravel had a self destructive button the size of a truck and he couldn't help pushing it. That's the type of player could have had SAF as manager, Busby as no 2, Shankly as his dad, Maldini and Charlton as his brothers, Keane as his personal assistant and he would still go off the rails. I remember reading one of his interviews when he was at Lazio. He came late to the interview and the interview itself was an absolute train wreck. He immediately switched the argument on Manchester United and how they worked so hard to ruin his reputation and he simply couldn't let go much to the annoyance of the Italian journalist who, quite frankly, couldn't give a toss about us. May I remind you that by that time the guy had left United 3 years before and he had already played for West Ham + had loan deals with Birmingham, QPR and Cardiff but no the guy was fixated with Manchester United.

Rashford is more about mismanagement. We gave him regular first team football way before his time which made it impossible for him to develop his character and his game as he should have done. Then the club decided to make him the face of our brand, money came flooding in and at one point he became bigger then the club himself. The situation grew so silly that at one point the manager had to publicly apologize to Rashford because he criticized him. There's a huge difference between how Rashford was introduced to first team football as opposed to how Ronaldo got introduced to first team football a generation before. The Portuguese could score a hat trick but you knew that the moment he dribbled that 1 player too much then next game he'll be on the bench irrespective whether we were playing Wigan or Liverpool. Two strikes and SAF would substitute him. No ifs, no buts. In the end it became so obvious that we had a weird scenario were Ronaldo would go in the dugout with his head down despite United winning and he had scored the winning goal.

As Tyrion Lannister once said "its hard to put a leash on a dog once you put a crown on his head". That's what happened to the likes of Rashy and Lingard.
 
mctrials23 said:
His "local boy from the academy" background should only have helped him and it certainly has in most ways. Salary, tolerance for his shit. Chance after chance. New contracts. Unsurprisingly however, when people have a lot of affection for you and you don't reciprocate they tend to feel strongly still, just in the opposite direction.
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We've given plenty of high salaries and new contracts to players over the last few years. Including players like Shaw and Martial who were playing less and delivering less. It's got nothing to do with being local.

United's not unreasonable desire to avoid transfer fees for replacements who might or might not be better and who might have similar salary expectations created a habit. We obsessed over value preservation and pinned a lot of hopes on potential, best season performance and injury recovery. I get why United did it.

I also get why some fans feel particularly strongly about Rashford - though some of them were strongly negative about him from the start.

I just don't feel that way - despite having been a season ticket holder (and Sky subscriber!) for most of the time he's been in the first team.
 
afrocentricity said:
Tbf I still don't know what you were saying in that post but at least this is clear
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That post was a response to a couple of others which were implying that Rashford’s poor performances were for reasons outside his control (e.g. playing under managers below the top tier, at a club in upper mid table) Which rings hollow when you consider the likes of Harry Kane, Steven Gerrard or Alan Shearer. And if he’s not as talented as those guys that’s ok but then he has to work his arse off to contribute in other ways. Which he didn’t do.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
That post was a response to a couple of others which were implying that Rashford’s poor performances were for reasons outside his control (e.g. playing under managers below the top tier, at a club in upper mid table) Which rings hollow when you consider the likes of Harry Kane, Steven Gerrard or Alan Shearer. And if he’s not as talented as those guys that’s ok but then he has to work his arse off to contribute in other ways. Which he didn’t do.
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So I refer you back to my last post then, who are you to decide how and why someone should feel sorry for anyone?
 
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Sir Erik ten Hag said:
Back then I thought Rashford's greatest weapon was his fearlessness. The moment he let the pressure got to him, he lost his biggest weapon.
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I think you're right. A player has to believe - "I can do this, I'm the best man for the job," "if I keep running for the next pass, someone will pass," "I can hit this ball now, he will run in and put it in the net". As soon as believing turns into thinking you get slow and clumsy.

Pressure makes some players self-conscious. Some players react to it by feeling energised and excited, others start thinking too much.

In fact that might even be part of the reason why Rashford and sometimes the whole team would pull out a big game against a big team only to become a poor team again the next week.
 
Give me a Park Ji Sung, Tevez or a Fletcher over Rashford any day of the week. Players with work rate who will run through walls for you are worth 10 of a Rashford.
 
DJ Jeff said:
So that academy player record is going to be gone in the next year if Garnacho and Mainoo are both out then right? Or do they just stick some reserve on the bench in that case.
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The latter, I would assume. With the number of subs we can select it is hardly an issue to put Collyer on the bench. Or Evans, for that matter.
 
DJ Jeff said:
So that academy player record is going to be gone in the next year if Garnacho and Mainoo are both out then right? Or do they just stick some reserve on the bench in that case.
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Harry Amass, Toby Collyer and errr...Jonny Evans?
 
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