Yeah, this is really the issue. If you are trying to reset the expectations (and possibly the wage structure) at a team like United, then how much a player makes versus their output and what they bring to the team is really important.
This is the most optimistic I've ever felt about the club since Fergie left to be honest.
Far too much is made of that one “30 goal” season. He scored 17 league goals that season, 11 of which came in just four weeks. 6 were in the Europa League against Sheriff and the boys, 6 in the Carabao Cup and 1 in the FA Cup. He had a great goalscoring spell mid season, but his overall game was poor and the goals dried up around March and that “30 goal” season also happened to coincide with his contract renewal.
there are about 50 emotional posts in a row here that could have been written by a bot saying 'get rashford out of my club ahhhhhh'. there is no discussion just posters that have got on this latest bandwagon venting
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I think the squad was announced to them before. Ruben's comments were "Today, they train really hard, so it’s a good thing".
In general over the years we’ve had Vidic, Evra, Carrick, and more recently Maguire and Hojlund. There’s more especially from the past but yeah.
Rashford has been crap for a long time now and questions have been there about his attitude under different managers.
Exactly. People pitying him as if he is Shaw or Mount who have been riddled by injuries. No, Rashford has enough fitness to at least put in the work which he didnt and he gets paid very well to at least look bothered which he didnt.
It is only the 'dresses' one that is slightly odd.
Not really odd if what he means is how he's dressed to work (training sessions). I am sure even the staffs are expected to at least dressed properly coming to the office. It shows not only respect but maturity. Its only out of context if Amorim cricitized how he dresses outside of work. Which I am sure he didnt because he followed it up with "these are the things I noticed". Might be a little language barrier there. But yeah its good to have standards. The club wouldnt be here if Sir Alex was tolerating nonsense behaviours in his dressing room. He even told some players to cut their hair.It is only the 'dresses' one that is slightly odd.
Nutrition is super important, if they feel Rashford is not taking that as seriously as others then it's a red flag + interactions is obviously a huge part of being in a team, creating the right culture.
Re clothing/dresses - it's an interesting one, makes me think maybe he's trying to remove part of the circus by asking them to come to training in United gear i.e. you come to training to train, not for the fashion shoot of arriving in your car covered in brands. Or maybe Rashford turned up in that Burberry cape and Amorim genuinely told him it was unforgivably bad
It is only the 'dresses' one that is slightly odd.
Nutrition is super important, if they feel Rashford is not taking that as seriously as others then it's a red flag + interactions is obviously a huge part of being in a team, creating the right culture.
Re clothing/dresses - it's an interesting one, makes me think maybe he's trying to remove part of the circus by asking them to come to training in United gear i.e. you come to training to train, not for the fashion shoot of arriving in your car covered in brands. Or maybe Rashford turned up in that Burberry cape and Amorim genuinely told him it was unforgivably bad
But how would you dress inappropriately for training? They all wear club gear on the grass and we've seen him in videos, it's also not like they can forget their boots/gear as it's all at the training ground already.
I dont know, its just my interpretation of what the manager said. Maybe when he arrived he might have worn something else before switching to the training gear. Because it doesnt really make sense if Amorim noticed what he wears outside/off work... he cant be keeping an eye on him all the time.
I think he clarified this - it was some generous journalistic license being taken - he only banned things you can't wear on game day (snoods and hats), but gloves were allowed.
I think before this his 'punishment' has been rather tame. More of administrative thing than sending a message out to him. This time, he was dropped before a derby, not even in the squad but the team won the game regardless, and the manager has specifically talked about him. So this time it seems like a final warning. If he's still unbothered then there's only one outcome.
Not sure why you feel this way but I don’t agree at all. It seems for once that the new structure people wanted for years and wanted to see Ten Hag under are actually doing something meaningful in regards to one voice from the top down to the manager.
Yeah it's an odd one and I'd think Ruben would make a lot of enemies if he was trying to control what they wore in general outside of work (it definitely won't be that). Unless of course he wore something offensive/political and the club has notified Amorim, but we'd have seen that in the media if it was the case.
It is only the 'dresses' one that is slightly odd.
Nutrition is super important, if they feel Rashford is not taking that as seriously as others then it's a red flag + interactions is obviously a huge part of being in a team, creating the right culture.
Re clothing/dresses - it's an interesting one, makes me think maybe he's trying to remove part of the circus by asking them to come to training in United gear i.e. you come to training to train, not for the fashion shoot of arriving in your car covered in brands. Or maybe Rashford turned up in that Burberry cape and Amorim genuinely told him it was unforgivably bad
