Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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No they weren't.
He doesn't score much but he would be putting balls on a plate for Lukaku. There's a reason Brazil and successive Chelsea managers rate him highly.
He was an upgrade and more of a fit to what we had, but if you look deeper both Mane and Salah coated half of what he would have cost despite being closer to 30 and not much efficient than those two. Buying him for such a price was not a wise decision at all, but when we knew mourinho wanted him we could have gone for him earlier itself like Matic last season as we don't have any right winger in the first place, that's the proactiveness Ed Woodward lacks as a footballing Ceo. He is not a wise decision maker in terms of footballing matters. If there was a need of stretching the transfer budget for the need of being proactive in the market this is what Ed Woodward doesn't understand or is not flexible about and keeps on pushing it for a dreamy star player.
If it had made the team better yes it's, definitely.
Much better than keeping the money in bank account and happy that we didn't spend at all.
Think I might have done so. Was led to believe the "Woodward won 2-0" was a jab at Woodward's control. The rest is PR though
You have completely misunderstood what he's saying.
Toby yes, Willian no. Also if we really wanted will Ian why not move a season earlier when we went for Matic, how can you keep going back to chelsea and expect them to strengthen you again and again?
First of all there is rumor that there was very little effort in negotiate re:Toby over the course of the summer. Same with other targets. MaGuire name only popped up after WC, yet the lists was made known to Woodward months ahead. So beside negotiation, the planning, Woodward as decision makers had plenty of time to do his own research to suggest his own obtainable targets! A man running a club like this then he needs to make himself another options instead situation like this, so the managers can't say he was not given alternative support. This option also means Woodward can sack Mourinho if Mourinho refuses to comply and talk to the press about not getting his players. Everyone would support Woodward without the need to explain himself to the press via briefing. It's distrinctly different from talking about spending 100mil on unobtainable Varane aftermath. The case is not about this transfer window, the the overall approach: appoint manager, players and Mourinho's contract renewal, talking about warchest yet fail to show, transfer direction (name).
So you have no comprehension that we are a club that can’t just spend spend spend every single season.
I agree that both players would have made the team better, but it would have been at a cost that’s prohibitive - very few clubs got the players that they needed this summer. There needs to be restraint.
Other team who can pay the fee are settled with their CB options.
He appointed Jose after he’d just won the league with Chelsea and was easily regarded as one of the best managers in the world, it’s hard to criticise him for that.
Who else needs him as badly as us?
Spend a lot in a 1 or 2 summer to improve all your key points and make a more complete team and you won't have the necessity to spent a lot in the upcoming seasons.
City spent giga loads of money in the previous 2 seasons and now have a full and complete team, so they won't need to spend much anymore and they did only spend 60m this summer. Liverpool spent a lot this summer and last one now they have a near full team they won't need to spend much.
That's how all proper teams do.
What we did is that we spent randomly on positions and the net result is that we spent a lot in the previous years but still entering the season playing wingers as fullbacks, number 10s as right wingers and strikers as left wingers.
So we'll still be forced to spend and as long as we have glaring issues then yes, we'll have to spend spend spend every summer.
Once we have a near full team with no glaring issues we can then stop.
This is very deceptive way to put it. Mourinho had the worst period in his career. Woodward sticking too long with LVG and had absolute failure in negaotiate with Klopp with Klopp joining L'pool then opening the lid about Woodward selling the club as Disneyland to managers
That's very damning thing to address the club status in professional world.Doomed? He makes millions. He has the best job on the planet. And he is not very good at it.
Yes, absolutely it's a collective failure. 2013 window, Di maria's case, Rooney,Jones, Rojo ridiculous contract renewals on large wages. I'll add Lingard's salary to it as well. Targetting Wrong players and missing the right ones for a dreamy star. Getting managers whose style does not fit the squad on at hand, Being reactive in the transfer market partly due to budget constraints yet bragging about having X amount of money in the bank for marquee names. It all adds up .
Remind me how you are qualified to evaluate his job?
If his price had been right he'd have been snapped up. So maybe he was overpriced after all.
Ed Woodward a specialist in failure
Idiots.
And 100m for Varane was not overpriced?
When did we buy Varane for £100m?
You can make a price right in a sense addressing issue and pushing for the football team goal (not accounting goal). 75mil for Toby and we can challenge in all fronts alone, not considering winning PL, is money well spent considering we haven't been challenge for 5 years and waste more money with dithering and name chasing.
Edit: I know what people would say regarding not trusting Mourinho and stuff. We're talking about Woodward here who gave him contract extension just months ago, who was said to also given the list of transfer targets months ago. For Woodward to turn against his coach just months later vetoing his targets and briefing the press, is every bit of incompetence.
Not for us.
That's for the Glazers to decide. They obviously don't agree with you.
Well, that was the Briefing.
So you're as football fan is just sitting here waiting for the Glazers who anyone can agree know most about football. Great support their (not to the football club though).
Did you see this briefing or was it something that the media told you was said?
Straw man at its best. Did you see clubs price check their players at X fee or was it something that the media told you was said?
No other team seemed to think he was worth a punt either. DoF's in all the top clubs decided not to pay what Levy wanted but you know better.
I don't even know that we ever wanted him.Straw man at its best. Did you see clubs price check their players at X fee or was it something that the media told you was said?
Well, I would appoint Jose, but I'm just a supporter and don't get millions of pounds a year to have the insight an knowledge required to make the right call. You don't need to be much in order to look at a perosn's list of trophies and say 'he won a lot, so I want him'.
I want to blame Woodward for penny pinching and making us play in shirts that have been badly washed, what next?
Circle argument?
You even quoted this below post of mine
Same applies to other rumors. X,Y,Z fee for A,B,C players, nobody know beside what the press wrote. A,B,C players press may have a fight about fee, yet all accounts agreed 100mil for Varane (and pretty same reasons for Woodward to veto Mourinho list) thus the smell of brief all over it. Your counter argument regarding briefing is strawmanism.
You need to arrange a crowd funding so that you can hire a plane.
This is very deceptive way to put it. Mourinho had the worst period in his career. Woodward sticking too long with LVG and had absolute failure in negaotiate with Klopp with Klopp joining L'pool then opening the lid about Woodward selling the club as Disneyland to managers
You mean the Klopp that spent half a season fighting relegation with Dortmund, losing more games than he won in his final year?
Your whole post is delusional, what do you mean Jose’ worst period in his career? he just won the league when he joined us, it was Chelsea doing their usual ‘no fecks given’ season like they’ve done many times under many different managers that got him the sack.
Klopp is would not come to us either way - he is a manager who would not like the pressure of managing United - it's obvious he wanted the time that a team like Liverpool would give but United would not.
We are the Bayern of this league whilst Pool is more close to dprtmund. That does not mean that Jose should be given more time - he is a manager who pis failing at his own job which is to be good short term manager.
That's because it still remains true. Everybody and his dog is saying that we need a top DoF. Some are saying that we should have paid whatever Levy wanted for Alderweireld but none of the top DoF's thought that that was good business or they would have brought him.
Now the other point is that no other teams need a centreback. Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal are not overly stocked with centrebacks for a kick off. Do you seriously think that they all have 2 or 3 better centrebacks then Alderweireld?
Restraint is good when you're in a position of strength. For example Manchester City have an incredibly strong, young squad, so every time they approach a transfer they do it from a "we can take it or leave it" negotiating position. Hence they got Mahrez for £60m.
When it comes to our right-wing and central defence, restraint is bad.
Do the players use washed shirts in next match or brand new shirts ?
I didn't say Klopp is better alternative or anything, did I? The point if it weren't clear enough in previous post, is regarding having a plan, and congestion strategy to bring that plan into reality. It's a whole season between Mourinho last won the league to when he joined us. His last season at Chelsea was worse than Klopp given Chela was given the title before the season given how weak the performance of other big teams to the point Leicester ran away with the league, with Arsenal Tottenham finished 2nd and third yet both were not in challenging position.
It's fecking delusion to deny Mourinho had the worst period of his career in this case. Are you trying to say his time with us is (?) yet he is doing better than his two precedents under the same reign of certain person.
Hahaha.
On a serious note, I'm still to hear from a single supporter, who has claimed this plane banner. We're now synonyms with a fecking plane banner.
Give me one player who's not overpriced these days.
The likes of Kepa, Alisson, Laporte and VVD are overpriced like hell and in no way they deserve what they cost but that's the current market and we'll have to adapt.
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