Extended Mourinho's contract. Unforgivable stuff.
Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
- Thread starter RedMachine03
- Start date
- Status
All those corporate deals should be commemorated in the trophy room as placards in lit up glass sealed frames. Right..
Sorry, but thats not Eds job, every transfer is a risk, at least jose realiesd he fecked up signing lindelof and wanted a replacement, then a bean counter thinks he knows better, he doesn’t and its been proven so far since he undermined Jose.
Jose isnt clear of blame by any means but Ed shouldn’t be making these decisions.
Ed's doing much better today.
fecking morons.
fecking morons.
We’re 2 nil up, well done to Woodie, hopefully we’ll continue like this and go on to have a good season and if so, I’m sure the fans will thank him for his contribution.
You can't really undermine a subordinate.
I believe if we had Alderweireld we wouldn't have lost to Brighton as he wouldn't have made the errors Bailey and Lindelof di, same with Tottenham he wouldn't have made Jones' errors, and that wouldn't have left us exposed for the 3rd chasing the game. I don't particularly like Mourinho or him brand of football but he's correct in asserting a new centre halve was an urgent issue, I personally think we need 2 and would only keep Smalling ( maybe Bailey, but he needs a lot of work on certain attributes) out of the 1st team and allow Tunazabee and Fosu-Mensah to have been 4th and 5th. The rest of them are too reckless, injury prone, or simply not good enough.
I agree our attacking threat at times is none existent and watching us is usually a chore but the manager has claimed that our fragile defence is the reason he's reluctant to play expressive attacking football, which if Woodward doesn't believe he should have replaced him in the summer and got a manager he's willing to back and does trust. If he does believe him, he should have backed him, doing neither is a man sticking his head in the sand and hoping the issues resolve the selves because he's too cowardly to make a big call in sacking another manager because he's worried it'll reflect badly on him.
Regardless of the quality of our attacking football would you not agree that we are in desperate need of a top class centre back? If we do replace Moirinho ( which Woodward should have been decisive and done in the summer if he's having doubts about him and unwilling to back him Incase he replaces him) you can gaurantee they will want a new defender, I think any manager would have been happy with Alderweireld.
I can understand why the fans anger is directed at Woodward as he's kept Mourinho as manager without backing him, so we are left with a situation where we are keeping a manager who have faith in his defence. He had to either commit to a new manger or getting the players the one he's chosen to keep wanted, doing neither has significantly handicapped us.
If you want to fly a banner over the stadium, at least fly it during the game where you’ll have more tv coverage. Idiots.
No it’s not. It’s part of his job and what the owners doubtlessly care about. Doesn’t change the fact that Woodward is deciding who is signed and taking great delight in telling anyone who’d listed that he knows football players better than the football manager he hired.
$400mil transfer kitty and he's the specialist in failure?
Come on pal, you don’t think the money spent by a club is the single measure of the performance of the most senior person at a football club?
I’m not pro banners by a few which risk symbolising the opinion of the whole, but the intention described by those involved seems fair enough, I would tend to agree that however bad a manager might be constantly focusing criticism on a manager takes the eye off off field issues is risky long term and we’ve had 5 years of questionable at best off pitch focus and direction
No he isnt.
Ultimately the manager/scouting pick the players, Woody then tries to get them.
It's not exactly his fault when he doesn't get a player, I'd rather have that sort of CEO than one who just pays whatever price is chucked at him.
Know feck all about football yet has final say in football matters: 1. have hand in appointing wrong managers if fans insist on their hatre of the managers. 2. Shite negotiatition skill starting with stupid talk about warchest. This leading to overpay in many cases, even failure to acquire some targets. 3. Name fetish. Both transfer and manager appointment testifies for this = having no vision. Just go after names instead of seeing sense in team building, managers' styles compatibility. 4. Briefing against managers to push more pressure on the team as if there is not enough = Manchester not United (not backing managers, not an United organization). 5. Contract renewal. Seems like Woodward has influence in renewal of players managers contract. He is always has say in sacking a managers, letting players go. We have plenty of problem due to giving luxurious contracts for players that turn out very quickly deadwood. Why giving Mourinho renewal just months before turning on him. Failure to shift deadwood (sack manager swiftly) is on Woodward too.
Last edited:
Gofundme plane?
He is doing fantastic commercial job for us. So banner is really ridiculous thing to do. Only thing which he must change is to put himself out of football business. Buying players, selling, deciding is player good or not for united is just not job for which he is capable. Give that job to another person(dof), set budget to him as CEO and that is that. I would not change woodward for somebody else to be honest. As i said, this year he fecked it up but i can't say nothing against CEO who spent 400mil on players and brought 2 world class managers in this club.
No he isn't. He is a fecking manager . Astronomical difference.
Surely deciding if a player is good or not for United isn't his job, but the managers/scouts?
I agree that's not a measure of club's success , however that's the exact measure of Woodward's success.
You’d think he’d be able to sign the players he wants, then.
Which is exactly what people said against Woodward here. He decided that Alderweilerd isnt good enough for United. Isnt that irony in your point?
Not.
A football club essence is in football matter. Woodward is head of organization yet his success is business oriented this stick out like a sore thumb. And the success is all build on history of success in football. It's not sustainable if Woodward continue the club like this losing big club status to direct rivals. You made it sound like we're a chump of a club financial wise before Woodward was given this role.
Except this is not a video game , and the club is not backed by an oil state, thus not having limitless bank accounts. He may want to sign Mbappe and Messi , but he needs to take the actual reality into account.
He didn’t, he asked for Alderweireld - hardly the moon.
The irony is strong. Woodward is known to be one pushing for names. Can't remember the briefing: Varane 100mil?
Who had a ridiculous price tag.
There were 4 names as alternative. Doesn't sound like doing well negotiate with any, yet briefed that would be more than happy to pay 100mil for Varane. The point is Wood ward has precedence in mind boggling contract renewal, paying ridiculous price, missing acquireable targets, talking about spending prowess on unacquireable targets (what is the point?) pre Mourinho.
Yes, and hardly worth what was asked for an injury prone back . As I said , we can't sign blank cheques.
Well somebody needs to tell Ed Woodward because he is of the impression he is deciding who is better for the team.
Absolutely pathetic from so called fans flying that plane . I really despair of a lot of our fans when they do rubbish stunts like this .
Ed was under pressure today. But as the manager he stepped up did the job today. Jose should thank the manager.
Is that 100% fact? People here always say Daniel Levy is hard to negotiate with maybe Ed thought asking price was too much for a player with a year left.
Yeah because Spurs and Leicester have no say in whether we sign their players or not.
Apparently Ed would have signed players if Varane and Ronaldo were on the list...he only veto’s players the fans don’t want....
Good job Tottenham were actively trying to sell Alderweireld all summer then. But of course ultimately we have to respect Woodward's briefings that he's no better than we have currently.
If you are actively trying to sell a player you don't price him out of the market. How many of the players that Spurs were actively trying to sell did they actually manage to sell?
100% fact what? Judging players ability is Ed's job now?
Do you really think Toby wont help our defense?
Interesting take, I tend to agree with you
Got this from a mate:
Mate from uni is a big Burnley fan, season ticket holder & he said they were really poor today, also they had a minute silence before kick off for a former player & all you could hear was the engine from that fecking plane flying the banner. Embarrassing.
Mate from uni is a big Burnley fan, season ticket holder & he said they were really poor today, also they had a minute silence before kick off for a former player & all you could hear was the engine from that fecking plane flying the banner. Embarrassing.
- Status