Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)

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We had a lower net spend than Stoke from when they arrived until SAF left. They only began to spend when shit hit and the fan and new TV deals came rolling in.

They absolutely need to go.
You’re going on ignore. You literally won’t accept facts on the spending matters. You literally think Ferguson lied about having money to spend.
 
You’re going on ignore. You literally won’t accept facts on the spending matters. You literally think Ferguson lied about having money to spend.

No one gives a feck about your ignore list. The net spend is a fact, less than Everton/Liverpool/Chelsea/CIty etc last 3 windows too. It's a disgrace.
 
Lol they’ve spent a fcuking fortune!!!

Protests?! Against what? Hiring shit managers? Because that’s about it since Ferguson left.

They've allowed the squad to stagnate. They've barely spent anything and we have the lowest wages to turnover in the league. We could have afforded several more world class players but it's obvious the Glazers have their priorities elsewhere. I'd imagine they're worried about the U.S. economy and are likely to use some of United's money to prop up their business interests abroad.
 
I think Ed has shown he is becoming very important to the club. He's showing he won't be bullied by managers like Jose into selling super kids and replacing them with astronomically expensive 30 years old with 2 good seasons left in them. Jose is getting paid phenomenal wages because he is supposed to show us all that he can develop the likes of Lindelof and Rashford who can be mainstays for years to come instead of discarding them and signing world class 32 year olds for crazy money.
 
Lol they’ve spent a fcuking fortune!!!

Protests?! Against what? Hiring shit managers? Because that’s about it since Ferguson left.

They have spent a fortune and still no going no where with it. They are wasting it.

Giving Rooney a 5 year big deal, bringing Di maria and Falcao, Schneiderlin, giving 5 year contracts to Jones and Smalling and Recently Rojo. No competition for actual players we need to sign. Hiring Managers not suited to club Philosophy,Square pegs in Round Holes , The mismanagement is amazing for such a big club with incredible resources.

Even your chief scout leaves before the window closes. You know everything is wrong on management level.
 
The problem is, the only people above him are the Glazer's and they know absolutely nothing about the football side of the club. They probably have no idea that Woodward has fecked up signings and probably wouldn't care if they did.

It's unfortunate, but it happens when your owners aren't ambitious and don't like football
I would be totally amazed if Ed does not know anything about football, considering that he has been No. 1 or No. 2 executive in United for around 15 years.

I also would be amazed if Glazers don't know anything about football considering that United (whose value is just above 3b pounds and they own 80 percent of it) is by far their biggest asset. When almost your entire wealth is concentrated on something, you surely study a lot about it cause it can easily vapour and you're left with nothing.

But sure, Caftards who have played FM know more about football than people who own the richest club in the world and its executive director.

Similarly, people have also said before that Berlusconi and Perez know feck all about football. Presidents who won 11 UCL combined.
 
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And Dalot is still injured for the foreseeable future
 
I think Ed has shown he is becoming very important to the club. He's showing he won't be bullied by managers like Jose into selling super kids and replacing them with astronomically expensive 30 years old with 2 good seasons left in them. Jose is getting paid phenomenal wages because he is supposed to show us all that he can develop the likes of Lindelof and Rashford who can be mainstays for years to come instead of discarding them and signing world class 32 year olds for crazy money.

And letting City and Liverpool also gain Ground in the process.
 
Lol they’ve spent a fcuking fortune!!!

Protests?! Against what? Hiring shit managers? Because that’s about it since Ferguson left.

Hiring shit managers, Not shipping off dead wood, failing to fix glaring weakness in starting 11. PICK ONE!!
 
I would be totally amazed if Ed does not know anything about football, considering that he has been No. 1 or No. 2 executive in United for around 15 years.

I also would be amazed if Glazers know anything about football considering that United (whose value is just above 3b pounds and they own 80 percent of it) is by far their biggest asset. When almost your entire wealth is concentrated on something, you surely study a lot about it cause it can easily vapour and you're left with nothing.

But sure, Caftards who have played FM know more about football than people who own the richest club in the world and its executive director.

Similarly, people have also said before that Berlusconi and Perez know feck all about football. Presidents who won 11 UCL combined.

What is this sense you speak...
 
I think Ed has shown he is becoming very important to the club. He's showing he won't be bullied by managers like Jose into selling super kids and replacing them with astronomically expensive 30 years old with 2 good seasons left in them. Jose is getting paid phenomenal wages because he is supposed to show us all that he can develop the likes of Lindelof and Rashford who can be mainstays for years to come instead of discarding them and signing world class 32 year olds for crazy money.

Who is the 32 year olds exactly? Toby is 29 as is Willian, Maguire is 25.
 
We need DoF period. If the manager asks for players and they can’t be delivered then someone hasn’t done his job simples.
 
Approx. spending over last 3 transfer windows... Chelsea £365m Liverpool £330m City £318m Everton £225m United £217m

How are United supposed to compete like this - particularly when we were behind both City and Liverpool in particular in terms of player quality at the START of this period. It's complete madness to suggest that Jose challenges for the league in these circumstances, unless you also expect Everton to do the same?
 
Hiring shit managers, Not shipping off dead wood, failing to fix glaring weakness in starting 11. PICK ONE!!
Aye you go protest against the board for those reasons and see how many people join you. :lol:
 
They have spent a fortune and still no going no where with it. They are wasting it.

Giving Rooney a 5 year big deal, bringing Di maria and Falcao, Schneiderlin, giving 5 year contracts to Jones and Smalling and Recently Rojo. No competition for actual players we need to sign. Hiring Managers not suited to club Philosophy,Square pegs in Round Holes , The mismanagement is amazing for such a big club with incredible resources.

Even your chief scout leaves before the window closes. You know everything is wrong on management level.
The no competition is a great point. Most of that team know they will always be picked. They are comfortable and complacent. The bench should contain players who can challenge the starters and they don't. Yes we want United to be winning, but winning in style not this awful stuff.
 
Woodward has done some massive deals over the last few years (Di Maria, Falcao, Pogba, Ibrahimovic (wages not fee) , Lukaku , Sanchez and Mkhitaryan) - so on one hand he has the ability to pull massive names out of the bag but on the other there does not seem to be a plan to it all - and 3/4 of them signings were all with 2 agents pushing their own agenda to line their pockets (you could probably say the same for Sanchez aswell).

I read a tweet this morning that in 10 years since Abu Dhabi that City have signed 66 players to the tune of 1.6bn pounds , and that has won 3 titles.

We finished 19 points behind them last season with this current squad minus Fred , Dalot and Grant. (They have added Mahrez in this time).

Now normally i would not panic- Woody can get big signings done - but it is not what we need- if it is true what Mourinho said and he gave him a list of 5 players- the majority of these should have been signed- there are clear gaping holes in this team - Mourinho is a winner- he hates settling for second best- but Woodward himself has said even not finishing in top 4 doesnt effect us financially , that is clearly the wrong message to send out. If i was Mourinho i would personally walk, his record will look like he has spent around 300 milion quid- but how many of those signings other than Matic , Bailly and Lukaku was he 100% on board with- this is a bloke where the team is above all else .

SAF was obsessed not only with winning but with retaining the title year after year , in employing Mourinho we were getting someone cut from the same cloth but without the board or experience in place behind the scenes to realise this.

As fans now we would be happy with progress on the pitch and finishing second- thats the reality- as long as we finish above Liverpool , we may say were only happy with winning the league but we know it is far from realistic.

Football goes in cycles and we dont have a god given right to the league - but we should exhaust everything in trying- im afraid with a Glazer stooge only interested in making sure they get their dividend at the end of year dealing with our transfers that it will be a long time until we are back on the bike, we are not even peddling at this moment .

For me a change is needed- whether it be a DOF or a football person- an ex player brought in to deal with transfers alone who aligns with the managers thoughts.

Mourinho for me has done wonders with what he has to deal with behind the scenes- and he is not perfect- he picks stupid arguments and his not brash enough to play expansive football due to fear of loss rather than courage to win, he has had money - a lot of it- and some of his signings have been failures, so i understand why the board would be weary to release more funds, but penny pinching certainly wont get us any closer to where we want to be.

So yeah get that Rugby Union loving urchin out.
Some one with a balanced insight i just think what you have said is on the spot minus this window may be. That username is that a filmaker? Just asking mostly starring some actor called klaus kinski
 
The problem is, the only people above him are the Glazer's and they know absolutely nothing about the football side of the club. They probably have no idea that Woodward has fecked up signings and probably wouldn't care if they did.

It's unfortunate, but it happens when your owners aren't ambitious and don't like football
Ed is UTD as far as the Glazers are concerned. The whole scheme which led to their acquisition of the club emanated for Ed's fevered little brain, and everything they understand about the sport, like you say, is filtered through his own interpretation of what matters off, and increasingly, on, the pitch.

Woodward is absolutely inviolate where the owners are concerned, and if anyone, manager or otherwise, who makes a living at the discretion of the club, takes a serious stand against him, they'll be gone.

EDIT: Ed's brain may be fevered, but it's most certainly not small.
 
I think Ed has shown he is becoming very important to the club. He's showing he won't be bullied by managers like Jose into selling super kids and replacing them with astronomically expensive 30 years old with 2 good seasons left in them. Jose is getting paid phenomenal wages because he is supposed to show us all that he can develop the likes of Lindelof and Rashford who can be mainstays for years to come instead of discarding them and signing world class 32 year olds for crazy money.

You sound like a Spurs/Levy fan.

Woodward and the club as a whole have had a sub-par transfer window.
 
His job is also to secure transfers that the first team coach requests, targets which were agreed upon months ago. The purpose is to improve the first team which will lead to success, that makes the brand stronger which makes the shareholders happy. This can't happen if he can't negotiate properly and close the deals, he's failed this summer so far.

This seems like an annual complaint with Woodward. And it isn't like he is 'learning on the job' and improving on this part of his job. Jose gave him the list and he secured one of those players in Fred. Another year with no RW signing which has been a need for some time. Ed seems over his head in the transfer market and negotiating with other teams.
 
Aye you go protest against the board for those reasons and see how many people join you. :lol:

So who takes the responsibility for 5+ years of failures? If who ever we bring in is failing, there is something very wrong with the club.
 
One thing that's come of this transfer window is that Woodward is incapable of doing this job. He's great signing new fecking sponsorship deals and to make money but he's an absolute chancer when it comes to football. No knowledge of the game and a yes man for the Glazers

Say what you like about Mourinho or the board, but this idiot is a cancer to the club while he's chief executive
 
There must be something going on behind the scenes that we dont know .
Absolutely. I've been saying it all along. Board doesn't trust Jose or doesn't care about being an European powerhouse again.
 
Well it hasn’t been good has it. But there’s probably a lot of reasons for that, not just Ed.

Glad we kept Martial though.
 
Ed Woodward July 2014

"We can do things in the transfer market that other clubs can only dream of. Watch this space"

What a fecking joke.
 
You’re going on ignore. You literally won’t accept facts on the spending matters. You literally think Ferguson lied about having money to spend.

:lol: This place has changed. Next you will be taking out a grievance and going for mediation.
 
So who takes the responsibility for 5+ years of failures? If who ever we bring in is failing, there is something very wrong with the club.

Woodward does have blame for managers he hires but he’s only hired two of them and let’s not forget the manager performance is ultimately down to them.

He will need to get his next one right though.
 
Approx. spending over last 3 transfer windows... Chelsea £365m Liverpool £330m City £318m Everton £225m United £217m

How are United supposed to compete like this - particularly when we were behind both City and Liverpool in particular in terms of player quality at the START of this period. It's complete madness to suggest that Jose challenges for the league in these circumstances, unless you also expect Everton to do the same?
“Last 3 transfer windows” equates to 18 months, it’s not selective bullshit with an agenda at all. Why not look at the last 3 years? In the past 5 years we’ve spent as much as city in net terms, which is the most in the world. Yes net spend does matter, because if a team is losing a player who commands a big fee, ala Coutinho, then it’ll take a huge fee to replace them.

I don’t blame Ed at all, we’ve spent crazy amounts for not much return. No matter how much we spend, our football will continue to be tumescent shite under Mourinho. I’d rather the club held back funds for the next manager when the special one inevitably has his meltdown and leaves.
 
If there's any reason why this club need a DoF, this window shows it. Woodward isn't up to standard.
 
I think the biggest problem of the window is that we had to make room for new signings, and weren't able to do so.

I reckon Ed had flashing dollar bills in his eyes, his tongue protruding, at some of the fees bang average players have been going for. We simply didn't want to miss out on these prices. Problem is, those figures were only being paid by EPL sides, and it didn't look like anyone was going to go for Blind, Darmian or Rojo in the league. Everton sniffed around Rojo, but that was it.

This left us with no time after our initial burst of transfer activity, or indeed space in the team, to fix problem areas (CB and wingbacks).

Thing is, with player prices likely to up even more over the next few windows, I don't see how we don't have the same problems again. Unless we sell off a superstar for a huge fee, I think our spending per player will be limited to that which we paid for Fred. Obviously, we don't have to do this, but that's the transfer framework I think we're now operating in.
 
Ed Woodward July 2014

"We can do things in the transfer market that other clubs can only dream of. Watch this space"

What a fecking joke.

£80m - Alderweireld
£90m - Willian
£60m - Sandro

This would likely have been the outcome if we got the deals done.

I’m not saying this window hasn’t been crap but we would have kicked off if we had to pay them prices.
 
Woodward does have blame for managers he hires but he’s only hired two of them and let’s not forget the manager performance is ultimately down to them.

He will need to get his next one right though.

There are lot of factors to managers performance. You cant have a squad full of direct Counter attacking players and then hire possession based manager to coach them and similarly vice versa. It's not1989 anymore.
 
Well it hasn’t been good has it. But there’s probably a lot of reasons for that, not just Ed.

Glad we kept Martial though.
I am glad Martial is still here, so he better pull his head out of his posterior and start showing Jose why he should pick him.
 
It’s because they keep parroting the same points over and over and over again. :lol:

This place is nuts. I blame Football Manager and the likes of. It has produced experts, the likes we have never seen before. :-)

The manager can write as many names on the list as he likes, if the player is not for sale, he is not for sale.

I am pretty sure January will bring a couple of players in.
 
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