Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)

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It is clear Jose is done but he is going to cost us money to sack. Get Real to buy out Jose's contract and you are a genius Woodward. Or just sack him and show that you are willing to make tough decisions.
 
CA1 said:
Profits last week were down and under his reign the amount of times we've failed to make Cl will have lost us a lot of money. When we don't make the CL and have to pay Mourinho's final year off, he'll have lost more money than he's made.

This myth he's great for us off the pitch is bollocks really, we've made more money on things that all our rivals have made more money on too. The brand (eurgh) of Manchester United is held in much lower regard since the day he took over the C.E.O role. He's done awfully.
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I'd agree with this. While he's savvy in roping in noodle and tractor sponsors, it's not like United actually needs such sponsors to sustain a massive revenue. We are already a global club, any half-decent CEO could keep the revenues up with such a brand.
 
Fecking spineless cnut of a person. Have zero knowledge on football. Makes wrong decisions one after other and still get to keep his job. Nothing will change unless this guy steps down.
 
Our board is such a disgrace. I wouldn't blame them if we hadn't enough money or funds but feck it we are the most valuable club in the world and act like that?
 
For a world-class negotiator, he sure does get mugged off alot.

  • Rinsed by Everton for Lukaku
  • And by Juve for Pogba
  • The Godin episode
  • The Ramos episode
  • The Perisic debacle
  • Repeatedly getting owned by Levy
  • Getting tricked into giving Mourinho a new contract
His naievety is actually embarassing.
 
C3Pique said:
For a world-class negotiator, he sure does get mugged off alot.

  • Rinsed by Everton for Lukaku
  • And by Juve for Pogba
  • The Godin episode
  • The Ramos episode
  • The Perisic debacle
  • Repeatedly getting owned by Levy
  • Getting tricked into giving Mourinho a new contract
His naievety is actually embarassing.
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Don't forget the whole Fellaini debacle
 
C3Pique said:
For a world-class negotiator, he sure does get mugged off alot.

  • Rinsed by Everton for Lukaku
  • And by Juve for Pogba
  • The Godin episode
  • The Ramos episode
  • The Perisic debacle
  • Repeatedly getting owned by Levy
  • Getting tricked into giving Mourinho a new contract
His naievety is actually embarassing.
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I don't think anyone's ever claimed he's a world class negotiator, but people have kept saying he's some sort of commercial genius. Like someone already said on here, it's low-hanging fruit to pick up some random sponsors for such a big brand. He's here exclusively to make the Glazers as much money as possible. Nothing more. And he's yet to show he's great at anything. He's certainly terrible at the things you listed, and I'd add that his dealings with the media are embarrassing and the contracts he grants players are nothing short of laughable. I just read Mane is now getting 150K, I read a month ago that Robertson got an improvement on his 30K deal to 60K. Shaw played 4-5 good games and went from 110K to 150K. That in itself is just so incompetent, there are almost no words..

There are no indications that Woodward is leaving and even if a DoF is appointed, will he and the board really delegate the responsibility of the long-term vision of the club and how that will affect recruitment, negotiations, etc.?

I can't see a way out of this (much of it self-made) mess for Jose, but I'm not expecting anything significant with the next managerial appointment.
 
CA1 said:
If Mourinho going meant Woodward going, I'd be all for it for the good of the club.
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I'm in the same boat, though I'd add that the club should establish a board of footballing expertise not just a DoF.
 
C3Pique said:
For a world-class negotiator, he sure does get mugged off alot.

  • Rinsed by Everton for Lukaku
  • And by Juve for Pogba
  • The Godin episode
  • The Ramos episode
  • The Perisic debacle
  • Repeatedly getting owned by Levy
  • Getting tricked into giving Mourinho a new contract
His naievety is actually embarassing.
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don't forget the Rooney contract, and Sanchez wages
 
Jed I. Knight said:
Would love it if we could somehow get Van Der Saar in to be in charge of football operations.

As for Woodward, he can feck right off. Sacrificing yet another season in an attempt to pinch a few pennies, or just plain, old indecision. Either way, not the mark of someone who should at all be involved with the footballing side of our club.
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Just look at him, he looks a clown in a suit, the guy is a laughing stock and you can tell he’s out of his depth he’s a comedy act just by looking at him, an embarrassment to this shell of a football club. All he’s been good at is commercial side of things, for this job it’s like looking at a guy with a piece of cheese dangling in front of him, saying no I can still get the cheese. The end of the day he knows nothing about the game, the owners and him see it’s more financially stable to get by on top 4, than spend money to chase trophy’s. They here chase a top 4, not win trophies, fans need to boycott because this is just taking the pi#% now.

The glazers and him have played Russian Roulette with the club since the buy out in 2005, and they continue to gamble to save those pennies, that mentality is never a sign of success on the pitch. But for them to part way with a dollar is like asking Scrooge before the ghosts visited him to give his employers a raise, and help the less fortunate
 
The main issue is actually the leader of this club. We are messed in everything, no structure, no identity, no plan, no blueprint, no rule & no direction. We are all over the place in building our team and signing new players. Mainly because both Ed & Jose Mourinho don't know how to run a football club. Ed is accountant or investment banker, he got no clue about football or how to run a Manchester United football club, Mourinho is a short term manager and everything what he did in the past until now isn't suitable for a long term manager and our philosophy.

We never had DOF, but back in the days we had David Gill & Sir Alex who knows how to run a football club. They even set some rule to ensure that they aren't all over the place in spending their money on wages & transfer fees.

We need someone who knows how to run a football club, give the manager plan, schedule & direction, keeping the Manchester United philosophy, set some rule in wages & transfer fees so we don't overpaid players. And I believe appoint DOF will be a big step for us in both financial and winning trophy.
 
UNITED ACADEMY said:
The main issue is actually the leader of this club. We are messed in everything, no structure, no identity, no plan, no blueprint, no rule & no direction. We are all over the place in building our team and signing new players. Mainly because both Ed & Jose Mourinho don't know how to run a football club. Ed is accountant or investment banker, he got no clue about football or how to run a Manchester United football club, Mourinho is a short term manager and everything what he did in the past until now isn't suitable for a long term manager and our philosophy.

We never had DOF, but back in the days we had David Gill & Sir Alex who knows how to run a football club. They even set some rule to ensure that they aren't all over the place in spending their money on wages & transfer fees.

We need someone who knows how to run a football club, give the manager plan, schedule & direction, keeping the Manchester United philosophy, set some rule in wages & transfer fees so we don't overpaid players. And I believe appoint DOF will be a big step for us in both financial and winning trophy.
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Yeah, we need to have a vision for what we want United to be. United through Sir Matt Busby and SAF, have always stressed United need to have an eye on youth and should be entertaining to the paying fans at Old Trafford. I want managers (and player transfers) to accomplish those two things first and foremost. Lastly, we need to build towards a successful side. Mourinho is currently accomplishing none of this.
 
POF said:
If true, what a load of utter nonsense. If the club believes the optimum structure includes such a role and he is the right candidate, then why are they waiting?
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£££££ Obviously
 
spwd said:
£££££ Obviously
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Think they won't do it until they have got rid of Jose, either once we cannot get Top 4 or at the end of the season. If Jose stays until season end, think a DOF would quit, because Jose would be a right pain in the arse.
 
spwd said:
£££££ Obviously
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I don't follow. It will cost a lot more £££££ to go through another transfer window before hiring someone whose primary role is talent recruitment.
 
POF said:
If true, what a load of utter nonsense. If the club believes the optimum structure includes such a role and he is the right candidate, then why are they waiting?
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If I were taking the job, I would want Jose out first, no point taking a job and the manager isn't supportive and will likely attempt to undermine you.
He doesn't get who Jose wants in Jan and Jose will scapegoat him for the remainder of a poor season (if thats how it went)
 
Cassidy said:
If I were taking the job, I would want Jose out first, no point taking a job and the manager isn't supportive and will likely attempt to undermine you.
He doesn't get who Jose wants in Jan and Jose will scapegoat him for the remainder of a poor season (if thats how it went)
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On the other hand, he didn't get the players he wanted in the summer either under the current structure.

If the club decides it wants that structure to drive future recruitment, they shouldn't sign another player until they do. If the current manager can't work within the optimum structure, they need to find one who can.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Think they won't do it until they have got rid of Jose, either once we cannot get Top 4 or at the end of the season. If Jose stays until season end, think a DOF would quit, because Jose would be a right pain in the arse.
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Yeah that’s what I meant, stupid feckers won’t get rid of him until they can save a bit on his severance package despite it putting us back another 8 months or so.
 
POF said:
If true, what a load of utter nonsense. If the club believes the optimum structure includes such a role and he is the right candidate, then why are they waiting?
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It's a bit of a conundrum. Ideally, the DoF should come in before the next manager. It's very risky bringing in a new guy to work with Mourinho simply because it's highly likely Mourinho causes trouble.
It all depends on when we sack Mourinho.
Personally, if I was a prospective DoF, I'd wait till Mourinho fecks off before taking the job.
 
Adisa said:
It's a bit of a conundrum. Ideally, the DoF should come in before the next manager. It's very risky bringing in a new guy to work with Mourinho simply because it's highly likely Mourinho causes trouble.
It all depends on when we sack Mourinho.
Personally, if I was a prospective DoF, I'd wait till Mourinho fecks off before taking the job.
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From a club perspective though, if they want a director of football and still back Mourinho, it's up to both to make it work.

Jose could turn it around and stay for another 10 years. Does that mean they then don't want a DoF anymore?
 
POF said:
From a club perspective though, if they want a director of football and still back Mourinho, it's up to both to make it work.

Jose could turn it around and stay for another 10 years. Does that mean they then don't want a DoF anymore?
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That's the thing. Mourinho is a dead man walking and the club know it. It's about when and not if they sack him
 
Adisa said:
That's the thing. Mourinho is a dead man walking and the club know it. It's about when and not if they sack him
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Maybe so. But it seems strange to me. If they have decided, what are they waiting for?

It wasn't that long ago (after the win in Turin) where there was a genuine feeling that the mood in the camp was good and things were positive.
 
spwd said:
Yeah that’s what I meant, stupid feckers won’t get rid of him until they can save a bit on his severance package despite it putting us back another 8 months or so.
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Although if might give them extra time to actually get it right this time. I do not want them to just go out and get who is available. There has to be a proper plan for once. If our season is done then a few more months will not matter. They need to get a DOF in more urgently than a manager, put a interim manager in if need be, then let the DOF suggest managerial candidates. I would not trust Ed to do that job right.
 
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