Reading this thread you'd get the impression there are only two parties involved in signing a player from another club: Ed Woodward and Jose Mourinho.
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Maybe the big dogs wouldn't be fooled by our claim of having 659 million fans
Blind played also quite a few games and someone needs to get those games too. Considering that our full backs are two 33 yo players, 1 newbie with 8 career games, 1 fat crock and Darmian, I am not sure how wise is to sell him without a replacement.
On the other hand, if we had signed a reliable LB, then we should have sold both Darmian and Shaw.
Think Ed talks with forked tongue?
Maybe not 15m but what would somebody like Cedric Soares cost? I imagine the cost wouldn't be exorbitant and despite not being anything special he would, IMO, be an improvement on the Valencia we saw last season who looked physically diminished and at a point in his career where serious decline had set in.
What Darmian brings to the table is very little. Only reason he his being played and praised by JM is to get buyers for him. If Dalot is not ready then TFM can be backup. And Lindelof after him.
The size of our sqaud is already big. Ideally you should have 2 players per position:
CB: Smalling, Lindelof, Rojo, Jones, Bailly. Unless we are planning to play 3 CBs we should sell one of them, 2 if we are bringing in Alderweireld.
FB: Young, Valencia, Dalot, TFM, Shaw, Darmian. 6 players for two positions. Darmian will hopefully leave. TFM loaned out to Bundesliga.
Jose probably thinks so.
That's the point. I was complaining last season about giving minutes in league cup and useless CL games to useless players like Darmian and Blind while they should given to youngsters. Giving these minutes to Dalot and TFM will be much better, and they can walk their up in the selection behind Valencia. There's no point in giving minutes to Darmian as he's not going to do anything with it and not going to develop or improve, it's just a waste of time.
Surely the whole scenario was buying Sandro and selling both Darmian and Shaw, with having Valencia and Dalot on the right, and Sandro and Young on the left. That's not far from the point, but here we're, stuck with Darmian and didn't buy and decent LB.
Think we need to start asking the true state of the club's finances instead of the layfan position that we're the richest and can spend the equivalent of our gross earnings every window. There's clearly more to our finances than the exaggerations Woodward throws around at investor meetings. Unfortunately the info isn't readily available to any fan with an Internet connection but it's quite clear we aren't spending because of certain limitations rather than the glazers abruptly deciding they want more money to fuel their jets
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People are saying Jose wouldn't like it, well all he did was give Ed a list, give your list to someone who might actually do a better job of getting the players you want.
Our recruitment strategy clearly has no flexibility.
Go for the big names initially, sure, but when that goes south - at least in our case - do a Tottenham and bring in frikkin *somebody* who is at least an upgrade.
Go for the big names initially, sure, but when that goes south - at least in our case - do a Tottenham and bring in frikkin *somebody* who is at least an upgrade.
Possibly
He helped the Glazers take over Utd. I wouldn't really trust him.
I didn't know that - that explains a lot.
We're the richest club in the world, and yet missed out on 3 of 5 target positions identified by the manager.
It's been a poor pre-season by Woodward so far. If nothing changes before Friday, he'll have had a shocker.
It's been a poor pre-season by Woodward so far. If nothing changes before Friday, he'll have had a shocker.
Not in the owners' eyes. If he sells Darmian and Rojo for the fees floated then the club will have zero net spend. He has already more than covered the Grant and Dalot transfers by selling Johnstone and Blind. The Glazers will be delighted.
Maybe the players on the list didn't fancy playing for Jose.
Not really impressed with Ed's work in the last 5 years. United has literally become like Disneyland under his leadership.
Bring in Daniel Levy.
Bring in Daniel Levy.
That's a different matter. I can imagine some not wanting to play his style of football. You would presume Ed would inform him if that happened, then it will then show if Jose is just a stubborn so-and-so or if he can make us a more attractive proposition for players.
I don't think there is any chance that if players are literally untransferable or do not want to join that Jose wouldn't find other targets. Pretty sure he's desperate for quality players, without whom he won't win anything of note.
Maybe it’s not Woodward’s fault. Maybe it’s that the players do not actually want to play for our club.
Think the pattern is clear. We will not spend heavily unless there is a need . We have the CL now for 2 years running and owners think we can live through the squad one more year before fixing the full backs and winger next year .
Those players were his choices. The players he failed with were Neymar and Muller. Look at the kind of money that was needed to price Neymar away from from Barcelona. Bayern rarely sell a good player last time it happened was Kroos.
If the excuse for the board is that they want Jose to do well the available resources when the manager wants more addition then it's a stupid excuse. If you dont trust your manager then sack him. What's the point of continuing this. Jose will continue to moan, moan and moan. Either back the manager fully or just dont back him and just get a new manager.
I will be honest, I dont trust our board. Even after Jose leaves there is no guarantee our board will make right decisions.
I will be honest, I dont trust our board. Even after Jose leaves there is no guarantee our board will make right decisions.
Big Sam. A former England manager.
I would suggest that the players would just give a polite no thanks and I doubt if ED would tell Jose even if they did.
He would last longer with England!
He's a negotiator and a business man. That's his job.
You can make that excuse every now and then, but it doesn't wash if we're facing abject failure in the market. Also, bear in mind that Mourinho's list of targets will have been informed by agents, so it's not like they'd all be impossible purchases.
If you were a salesman and tried the same line at the end of your most important sales period after being given a bunch of warm leads, you'd get the sack. Appealing to 'the randomness of life' is not good enough.
Ed would be absolutely right to tell him if that happens. If only to spare himself from Jose's next presser.
He has a manager right on the edge, he will be sugar coating the excuses.
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He's a true Glazer man. I feel that the Glazer's are so indebted to him that his job is almost bulletproof. I mean, he was on an extended holiday until last week (during a key time in the transfer window).
If Mourinho flops and gets sacked, he should also be cautioned. The next managerial appointment should be his last chance. After this, he's got to go.
In terms of selling sponsorships, this skill is far less niche than a proper football man who can deal with the football side of the business. Therefore, he's more replaceable than a DoF.
He's a true Glazer man. I feel that the Glazer's are so indebted to him that his job is almost bulletproof. I mean, he was on an extended holiday until last week (during a key time in the transfer window).
If Mourinho flops and gets sacked, he should also be cautioned. The next managerial appointment should be his last chance. After this, he's got to go.
In terms of selling sponsorships, this skill is far less niche than a proper football man who can deal with the football side of the business. Therefore, he's more replaceable than a DoF.
Who were the targets, did they want to come, were their clubs willing to let them go and how much money was asked for them?
It's not black and white.
Results matter.
I love that he has largely kept quiet while Mourinho blabs.
I think he will start speaking to another manager long before Mourinho is fired. That happened with Moyes and Van Gaal.
I think he will start speaking to another manager long before Mourinho is fired. That happened with Moyes and Van Gaal.
Come on Edd..The whole world is laughing at us now.. especially with this Barca crap going on bidding for pogba. Pull your finger out mate and make a signing!!
Seems so.
I don't see how it is a good idea to openly criticise his boss, especially considering how bad he has been performing and his now-tarnished reputation. He is hardly the star he has been in 2004-2010, if he gets sacked now, he'll struggle to get a top job in his remaining career.
He worked for J.P. Morgan before jumping over to the Glazers. The insane leveraged debt takeover was his device.
No fecking way, surely! Source?
People are laughing at barca.
It's going to be a crazy 4 days for this man. If he can capitalise on Barcelona's interest in Pogba it could make him.
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