Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)

[amolbhatia50k]

He needs to accept that his leadership is directionless, that he knows nothing about football and as a consequence, resign. Woodward out.

Okay. But fire Mourinho before leaving the building, given the guy who is supposed to know something about football is doing a terrible job.

 

[bleedred]

I call BS on this. I am expecting the media will be briefed in the next few weeks how we are close to getting a DOF in,just to keep the fans quiet during the bad results.

 

[roonster09]

So people have problem with Woodward backing Jose in Investor calls? Who would have thought it.

 

[TheFlagStaysDown]

Ban for having an opinion, seriously? What rule am I violating? It's a fact now Jose wanted multiple targets this summer and Ed vetoed them all so he's basically going against the wishes of the manager he himself hired. If he doesn't trust him enough to land him what he wants then why not just get rid of him? He is only good for commercial deals and thats it. There is no way you can think Ed should be in charge of important decisions when he has zero long term plan when hiring someone. We all know Mourinho is going to get sacked sooner or later so thats 3 different managers and zero improvement at all. What makes you think the 4th guy he will hire will do any good when all previous 3 have been a fiasco? We need someone in his position who has a high understanding of football and a clear vision with a plan, not just some guy who does good in commercial deals and thinks hiring whoever and giving them 200m will automatically equal success.

You are saying that the previous managers were fiasco, but completely overlook that they were the best possible solution at the time. But ne would never go against the best manager of all times wish and not try moyes, LVG was also sensible as we needed discipline, attacking football philosophy, develope youth, mourinho as a winner withe best record was the best possible pick too, we all can argue how that would be if we hired someone else but it’s always easy to say now, but those managers were best possible solutions at the time, woodward also provided over 600m pounds for all these players the managers wanted to their systems. What has he done wrong? You just ignore the facts and don’t wanna analyze at all. I hate that, blaming someone without any substance, just pointing fingers without any reasoning.

I wonder even now when everything is clear and turned out bad for us who would you hire mr. football manager?

And regarding the last summer transfer window, It’s very debatable to give a green light to mourinho in transfers and spend 80m on someone like perisic/willian, who are close to his thirties and wouldn’t be here for long after we sack mourinho which was always inevitable, and spending another 80m for another centre defender like aldeweireld or maguire, when we already have and spent and mourinho himself so much on them, that’d be absolutely daft transfer strategy, if mourinho can’t identify other targets while already spending too much he should try to do with what we have, so at this point it’s debatable but a fiasco picking managers before and backing them up with all the money? What the hell are you talking about? We should do absolutely better with players what we have and it’s just unfortunate that all managers happen to be nearly useless and cannot make majority of their players play better. I am sorry but if some manager decides toninvest money in players like di maria, sweinsteiger, falcao, blind, darmian, shaw, pogba, lindelof, martial, bailly, mkhitaryan, sanchez........and then still play with young, fellaini and lingard and cannot make these players play half good than who’s mistake is it?? Tell me seriously who’s because I am curious?

 

[Escobar]

As useless as Jose's tactics. Incredible how deep we have fallen in terms of management, philosophy and strategy

 

[fallengt]

Where's he been when all these drama keep popping up every week. Isn't he the CEO? Do something.

 

[Hamadovich86]

Ed isnt going anywhere because the money keeps coming in. He needs to cut our losses and sack Mourinho NOW while there is a chance to salvage something from the season and Zidane is available to bring in as a manager.

 

[Dr. StrangeHate]

If he was still backing a youngish manager like Tuchel or Niko Kovac it would have made sense as they could still evolve. With Jose you know exactly what you get; trophies, negative football, alienating of players and a meltdown. We have skipped the trophies in this case (mickey mouse cups don't count) but everything else is as predicted.
Ed didn't back Jose with transfers because he expects him to change. That is not going to happen as we have seen this season, so what good reason is there to persist with him?

 

[BrianMcClair'sBarnet]

Gives Jose a 5 year contract.
Doesn't back Jose in transfer market.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Treble]

The biggest problem is that business comes first at the club and football second. Football serves the business, and not the other way round. The order of priority is mistaken and is killing the romantic image of the club. They are turning United into a soulless corporation.

 

[SER19]

The one constant for 5 years. A dreadful drain on the club. Put united machine in the hands of a newly graduated accountant and theyll make hundreds of millions he gets absolutely zero credit for his 'money making'. Hes been in the position when an absolute avalanche of money was put into the game.

Of course people see any criticism of this tool as an excuse for mourinho when its actually a separate issue. I despise him and what he represents at united

 

[Pogue Mahone]

The one constant for 5 years. A dreadful drain on the club. Put united machine in the hands of a newly graduated accountant and theyll make hundreds of millions he gets absolutely zero credit for his 'money making'. Hes been in the position when an absolute avalanche of money was put into the game.

Of course people see any criticism of this tool as an excuse for mourinho when its actually a separate issue. I despise him and what he represents at united

I'm no fan of Woodward but fail to see how you can put this all on him when he's overseen the type of investment in the squad that Fergie could only dream off in the years following the Glazer takeover. Woodward's biggest failing seems to be hiring bad managers. That's the real issue here. Otherwise he's doing a pretty good job of running the club. Can you imagine where we would be right now if he'd hired Klopp or Pep to replace Fergie and they'd been given £500m to invest in the club?

 

[SER19]

I'm no fan of Woodward but fail to see how you can put this all on him when he's overseen the type of investment in the squad that Fergie could only dream off in the years following the Glazer takeover. Woodward's biggest failing seems to be hiring bad managers. That's the real issue here. Otherwise he's doing a pretty good job of running the club. Can you imagine where we would be right now if he'd hired Klopp or Pep to replace Fergie and they'd been given £500m to invest in the club?

Definitely wouldnt put all of it on him- theres failings at all levels. But theres been huge changes of under performing personnel and players and the general theme of rot and commercial motivation has been constant. He needs a more clearly defined role at best for him though i think theres plenty of justification to seek a replacement. If the main string on his bow is for making money thats like praising somebody for stepping out in the rain and getting wet. I see no positive reward from him being in charge of a football club, within my limited range of knowledge of what he does. On the superficial footballing layer hes a disastrous top man

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Definitely wouldnt put all of it on him- theres failings at all levels. But theres been huge changes of under performing personnel and players and the general theme of rot and commercial motivation has been constant. He needs a more clearly defined role at best for him though i think theres plenty of justification to seek a replacement. If the main string on his bow is for making money thats like praising somebody for stepping out in the rain and getting wet. I see no positive reward from him being in charge of a football club, within my limited range of knowledge of what he does. On the superficial footballing layer hes a disastrous top man

More like praising someone for doing the job they're paid to do extremely well.

As I said, the one and only thing he's done wrong has been overseeing the appointment of managers who were not cut out for the job. They were supposed to do the bit he isn't paid to do i.e. turn all that money into a great football team.

 

[SER19]

More like praising someone for doing the job they're paid to do extremely well.

As I said, the one and only thing he's done wrong has been overseeing the appointment of managers who were not cut out for the job. They were supposed to do the bit he isn't paid to do i.e. turn all that money into a great football team.

Fair enough but i think any competent person with the neccesary qualifications would make money at united. We are failing badly at football and still raking in huge sponsorship offers. Hes been pretty embarrassing in terms of representing the football side of the club and our image. Or disneyland as he calls it

 

[CA1]

Right then, looks like next course of action is the Newcastle game.

Going to be stepped up a notch. Going to be very uncomfortable for chinless.

 

[whatwha]

Who said that ?

My point is, only talking about social media followers and app rating proves we have nothing else to be proud of in these kinds of calls as there's no success on the pitch to talk about, so that's what people in charge of the club think is a replacement for pitch success.

Your point about this wasn't hard to understand imo. Not sure why you had to explain it five times.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

Right then, looks like next course of action is the Newcastle game.

Going to be stepped up a notch. Going to be very uncomfortable for chinless.

You really seem to hate Woodward. Did he shag your dog and shoot your mum or something?

 

[steffyr2]

More like praising someone for doing the job they're paid to do extremely well.

As I said, the one and only thing he's done wrong has been overseeing the appointment of managers who were not cut out for the job. They were supposed to do the bit he isn't paid to do i.e. turn all that money into a great football team.

Who failed to sell players Mourinho didn't want and buy players Mourinho did want if Woodward didn't make any mistakes?

 

[whatwha]

wow, you should get a ban, pathetic to look for a culprit and point at woodward, damn fecking hell like it's his fault that the best chosen managers at the time massively underperformed and that he backed them with all the finance and bought them the players they needed. jeses christ grow up and use your brain

"Jeses" Christ indeed...

 

[CA1]

You really seem to hate Woodward. Did he shag your dog and shoot your mum or something?

Yeah I do hate him.

He didn't shag my Dog or shoot my my mum.

But he is helping drag my football club through the mud by helping the Glazers take over the club and then proceeded to put himself in the position of running the football decisions at the club.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Who failed to sell players Mourinho didn't want and buy players Mourinho did want if Woodward didn't make any mistakes?

This summer's transfer window was an absolute fiasco and Woodward fully deserves whatever shit he gets for his contribution. That said, with the money he has already provided to Mourinho to spend on the squad we should be fecking miles better than we are. Which has nothing to do with Woodward.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

Yeah I do hate him.

He didn't shag my Dog or shoot my my mum.

But he is helping drag my football club through the mud by helping the Glazers take over the club and then proceeded to put himself in the position of running the football decisions at the club.

Well, fair enough then. Just a little offensive for fellow chin-challenged people. For instance, I don't even have a single regional Pot Noodle partner.

 

[arthurka]

This summer's transfer window was an absolute fiasco and Woodward fully deserves whatever shit he gets for his contribution. That said, with the money he has already provided to Mourinho to spend on the squad we should be fecking miles better than we are. Which has nothing to do with Woodward.

Agree.

The danger is that we become the club that we always laughed at. Endless new managers no trophies, just a big mess through and through.
That said he can´t ignore this any longer, this will get worse and he needs to act now before the season completely falls apart.
Mourinho needs to go there is no other way around this.

 

[CA1]

The one constant for 5 years. A dreadful drain on the club. Put united machine in the hands of a newly graduated accountant and theyll make hundreds of millions he gets absolutely zero credit for his 'money making'. Hes been in the position when an absolute avalanche of money was put into the game.

Of course people see any criticism of this tool as an excuse for mourinho when its actually a separate issue. I despise him and what he represents at united

Fantastic post.

The fact that Woodward has managed to weasel his way in to making all these football decisions at our club when we have so many supporters to hold him accountable is shocking.

But the same happened with the Glazers so it's no surprise.

What shocks me the most if I know so many guys and girls on here have so much emotional attachment to the club and the teams results can give them so much pain/pleasure. But then when it comes down to the single reason why it's more pain than pleasure they suddenly don't want make a stand.

 

[Castia]

Gives Jose a 5 year contract.
Doesn't back Jose in transfer market.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Or he’s rightfully coming to the conclusion that no matter who we sign we'll still play like dogshit because the formation/tactics are ancient. Seriously put Bale, Mane or Sane on our wings what would they actually do in our setup with the way we play?

He’s been given the money, just look at the numbers. He spent almost £80m on 2 Centre backs and neither are good enough, if reports are true he wanted the likes of Mina who would have just added to the other average players we already have at the club.

 

[Minimalist]

I'm no fan of Woodward but fail to see how you can put this all on him when he's overseen the type of investment in the squad that Fergie could only dream off in the years following the Glazer takeover. Woodward's biggest failing seems to be hiring bad managers. That's the real issue here. Otherwise he's doing a pretty good job of running the club. Can you imagine where we would be right now if he'd hired Klopp or Pep to replace Fergie and they'd been given £500m to invest in the club?

Far too much common sense here.

Genuinely baffled where the hatred for Woodward comes from, likes he’s any different from other people in that role. He’s given our managers plenty of money to buy players - that’s all I want. His big feck up is the choice of managers and still I think he’s getting too much shit for it (but the pressure is really on now to get the next one right).

 

[SER19]

Fantastic post.

The fact that Woodward has managed to weasel his way in to making all these football decisions at our club when we have so many supporters to hold him accountable is shocking.

But the same happened with the Glazers so it's no surprise.

What shocks me the most if I know so many guys and girls on here have so much emotional attachment to the club and the teams results can give them so much pain/pleasure. But then when it comes down to the single reason why it's more pain than pleasure they suddenly don't want make a stand.

I think the split of our fans that despise mourinho are willing to ease off criticism of anybody else as they see it as letting him off.

Couldn't care less if you like mourinho or not, glazers woodward pogba martial all should be getting pummelled. No single person is solely to blame for where we are but if i had to sacrifice one, itd be woodward.

Either that or we sacrifice players and make it clear the manager is in charge. Change the manager now and it will be the same conversation in ten months

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Far too much common sense here.

Genuinely baffled where the hatred for Woodward comes from, likes he’s any different from other people in that role. He’s given our managers plenty of money to buy players - that’s all I want. His big feck up is the choice of managers and still I think he’s getting too much shit for it (but the pressure is really on now to get the next one right).

It's not hard to understand tbf. From his role in the Glazer takeover to his recent self-appointed role as central defensive scouting guru and relentless, painfully transparent press briefings - intended to make him look good and blame everyone else for what's happening - there's a lot to dislike about him.

I just think he can't be held exclusively responsible for the shite we're seeing on the pitch.

 

[CA1]

I think the split of our fans that despise mourinho are willing to ease off criticism of anybody else as they see it as letting him off.

Couldn't care less if you like mourinho or not, glazers woodward pogba martial all should be getting pummelled. No single person is solely to blame for where we are but if i had to sacrifice one, itd be woodward.

Either that or we sacrifice players and make it clear the manager is in charge. Change the manager now and it will be the same conversation in ten months

Exactly right.

In my opinion, we'll never win the league under any manager again whilst the Glazers and Woodward are in their current powers.

And then you get people on here wondering why people who hold the same opinion are so vocal against them.

 

[red4ever 79]

Ed's fault our players have a poor attitude and poor application. Also Ed's fault the tactics and set up of the team is changing game by game.

 

[Minimalist]

It's not hard to understand tbf. From his role in the Glazer takeover to his recent self-appointed role as central defensive scouting guru and relentless, painfully transparent press briefings there's a lot to dislike about him.

I just think he can't be held exclusively responsible for the shite we're seeing on the pitch.

Still don’t think any of that is worth genuine hate like some clearly have for the man. Also we don’t actually know what happened this summer, it’s just gossip to this day.

Probably the Glazer takeover is one element I can sympathise with (for disliking him).

 

[11101]

I don't have much of an issue with him. His job is to return value to shareholders. He is doing an excellent job at that and unless that changes he is going nowhere. We are not a plastic money club so we have to run within the constraints of a normal business and we are better than anyone on the planet at that. He is holding up his end.

The managers job is to run the football club successfully within the budget given to him, which is not exactly peanuts. He has had more than enough money to spend at this point and any suggestion we are restricting his transfer dealings is his own fault for buying the wrong players; he has near enough bought an entire new team. We just can't keep shelling out like City can or Chelsea could.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Exactly right.

In my opinion, we'll never win the league under any manager again whilst the Glazers and Woodward are in their current powers.

And then you get people on here wondering why people who hold the same opinion are so vocal against them.

Why? Is £500m not enough money to build a title-winning Squad? I reckon the likes of Pochetinno or Klopp would beg to differ.

 

[Fosu-Mens]

I think the split of our fans that despise mourinho are willing to ease off criticism of anybody else as they see it as letting him off.

Couldn't care less if you like mourinho or not, glazers woodward pogba martial all should be getting pummelled. No single person is solely to blame for where we are but if i had to sacrifice one, itd be woodward.

Either that or we sacrifice players and make it clear the manager is in charge. Change the manager now and it will be the same conversation in ten months

I would sacrifice the owners first. Then Woodward. Then JM.
But as you correctly state; no single person or element of this club is solely to blame.
Changing just one element like the manager, the players or Woodward will only be a short term fix.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Still don’t think any of that is worth genuine hate like some clearly have for the man. Also we don’t actually know what happened this summer, it’s just gossip to this day.

Probably the Glazer takeover is one element I can sympathise with (for disliking him).

People always tend to hate people that are terrible at their jobs... and the more important the job that you have that you're bad at, the more hate you get.

 

[CA1]

Why? Is £500m not enough money to build a title-winning Squad? I reckon the likes of Pochetinno or Klopp would beg to differ.

It's the club spending it on marketable players not for the footballing ability, it's the club undermining managers and giving players too much power, it's the club backing a manager financially up to a point of top 4 and then it receding quickly, it's the club turning Old Trafford into a shithole, it's the club more interested in sponsors than success on the pitch, it's the richest club in the world who will always spend less than City, Chelsea etc, it's an accountant making decisions on keeping/buying/selling players.

Mourinho getting us to 2nd was above our station in my opinion, we spent the 2nd most the summer previous which gave us some ground for finishing there but we were rightly nowhere near 1st. And then we pulled the plug and allowed Liverpool and Chelsea to overtake us again. Now morale is so low and the players know they can get the manager sacked, it would be a miracle if Spurs and Arsenal don't overtake us.

 

[Hawks2008]

3 failed appointments during his time here. Jose leaving won't mean shit so long as this man is still here.

 

[Sing you a song]

I think the split of our fans that despise mourinho are willing to ease off criticism of anybody else as they see it as letting him off.

Couldn't care less if you like mourinho or not, glazers woodward pogba martial all should be getting pummelled. No single person is solely to blame for where we are but if i had to sacrifice one, itd be woodward.

Either that or we sacrifice players and make it clear the manager is in charge. Change the manager now and it will be the same conversation in ten months

Totally agree .I honestly find it unbelievable that Woodward is allowing the club to be dragged through the mud like this week after week month after month.
He needs to stand up with a show of strength he should be reminding everyone publically that this is the biggest club in the world and that no player is bigger than the club and anyone wanting out must hand in a transfer request or shut up .
He needs to publically back Jose in the strongest of terms or sack him immediately it is time to show we mean business rather letting this to slowly kill the season before it is too late because a finish outside the top 4 would be a disaster

 

[SER19]

Why? Is £500m not enough money to build a title-winning Squad? I reckon the likes of Pochetinno or Klopp would beg to differ.

That was 500m over three managers though. Loads of which was wasted massively to the point that Woodward is now trying to reign in spending and didn’t stump,up for perisic and alderweireld. There’s not a person watching us this season that could argue those two in our line up wouldn’t improve us hugely. You could argue mourinho bought Bailly and lindelof, both of which still have potential despite being underwhelming but were they his first choice? Then look at the turnover of players at city. I’ve lost track of how many defenders they’ve burned through and still rely heavily on kompanys fitness. But mourinho should shut up and get on with it while Woodward blows smoke up everybody about varane and £100m signings and half the fans think he’s great for doing it.

Woodward sanctioned 37m mata, 56m Martial, 63m di Maria, 20 plus for schneiderlin, 30m for depay. That’s over 200m on those alone that had little to do with mourinho. And after overseeing these deals and obscene wages for the likes of falcao and schweinsteiger he decides it’s now his place to tighten the strings. That may be a fair call but it’s a consequence of a mess of his own making. Another huge failing on his part.

Mourinho would also have delivered a title last year had city not blown even that huge spend away. Not forgetting he was tasked with rebuilding after two truly ruinous campaigns. As for klopp he’s spent 380m and hasn’t won a trophy so would wait until the end of the season to use him as an example personally.