Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)

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Woodward talked previously about our 4th place finish under LVG and the 2 trophies in Mourinho first season in these calls to talk about the team "success" when he actually could.
Dont misunderstand the 'call' part. Investor calls aren't a voluntary briefing to brag about money. Things like investor calls and even annual shareholder meetings are prescribed by law or company's articles. Not having an annual general meeting can even be met with penalties for public companies
 
Dont misunderstand the 'call' part. Investor calls aren't a voluntary briefing to brag about money. Things like investor calls and annual shareholder meetings are even prescribed by law in most states.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/40... Utd-q3-2017-results-earnings-call-transcript

That's the one of May 2017. You can see him talking about unbeaten record in the league, the league cup and reaching Europe League final.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-long-qa-session-with-investors-a7028211.html

And that's the one of 2016, just prior to LVG getting sacked. He talked about bringing youngsters in the club.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/31... Utd-q3-2015-results-earnings-call-transcript

That's from 2015. He talks about progress made under LVG.

So no these conferences aren't just for talking about social media followers. When he had some sort of success to talk about, he mentioned it.
 
https://seekingalpha.com/article/40... Utd-q3-2017-results-earnings-call-transcript

That's the one of May 2017. You can see him talking about unbeaten record in the league, the league cup and reaching Europe League final.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-long-qa-session-with-investors-a7028211.html

And that's the one of 2016, just prior to LVG getting sacked. He talked about bringing youngsters in the club.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/31... Utd-q3-2015-results-earnings-call-transcript

That's from 2015. He talks about progress made under LVG.

So no these conferences aren't just for talking about social media followers. When he had some sort of success to talk about, he mentioned it.

What’s your point, exactly? That financial metrics/achievements shouldn’t be mentioned in a call with investors? Of course they should.
 
What’s your point, exactly? That financial metrics/achievements shouldn’t be mentioned in a call with investors? Of course they should.

Who said that ?

My point is, only talking about social media followers and app rating proves we have nothing else to be proud of in these kinds of calls as there's no success on the pitch to talk about, so that's what people in charge of the club think is a replacement for pitch success.
 
Who said that ?

My point is, only talking about social media followers and app rating proves we have nothing else to be proud of in these kinds of calls as there's no success on the pitch to talk about, so that's what people in charge of the club think is a replacement for pitch success.
But he didn't. He also talked about the club's commitment to winning titles.
 
https://seekingalpha.com/article/40... Utd-q3-2017-results-earnings-call-transcript

That's the one of May 2017. You can see him talking about unbeaten record in the league, the league cup and reaching Europe League final.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-long-qa-session-with-investors-a7028211.html

And that's the one of 2016, just prior to LVG getting sacked. He talked about bringing youngsters in the club.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/31... Utd-q3-2015-results-earnings-call-transcript

That's from 2015. He talks about progress made under LVG.

So no these conferences aren't just for talking about social media followers. When he had some sort of success to talk about, he mentioned it.
Not sure what you're getting at. No one said they don't discuss on-the-pitch success These calls discuss any and everything relating to a business because you can't talk about profits without talking about the product. The primary nature of 'Investor calls' are still commercial. A lot of the investors are people who just want to know about the money they put in.
 
Not sure what you're getting at. No one said they don't discuss on-the-pitch success These calls discuss any and everything relating to a business because you can't talk about profits without talking about the product. The primary nature of 'Investor calls' are still commercial. A lot of the investors are people who just want to know about the money they put in

I don't understand what's hard to get that I'm not calling them to talk about financial things in financial calls. Of course they would. Bring me any statement in which I said they shouldn't ? My problem is are viewing these as replacement for success on the pitch nowadays, as the latter is non-existent.
 
What was Ed's plan for rebuilding the team when he sacked Moyes ?

To hire another manager and get him to rebuild the team (and ship out the deadwood).
In fairness, LVG did do this, but the results weren't great.
 
I don't understand what's hard to get that I'm not calling them to talk about financial things in financial calls. Of course they would. Bring me any statement in which I said they shouldn't ? My problem is are viewing these as replacement for success on the pitch nowadays, as the latter is non-existent.
They never said that though. You might have come to that conclusion independently. The briefing even underlined the need for further success
 
They never said that though. You might have come to that conclusion independently.

It looks like that for me they way they always bring these things on, but fine, I'll assume I read it in a wrong way.
 
It looks like that for me they way they always bring these things on, but fine, I'll assume I read it in a wrong way.
Nah you're entitled to your own interpretation. We all are. Only Ed and the board know for sure.
 
Who said that ?

My point is, only talking about social media followers and app rating proves we have nothing else to be proud of in these kinds of calls as there's no success on the pitch to talk about, so that's what people in charge of the club think is a replacement for pitch success.

Well no shit.
 
Reminder that chinless ended our season before we'd even kicked a ball :(

I said the day before Leicester the fans should have asked for a refund.
 
Having such a weak chin is the kiss of death for men, but he has lost a bit of weight and looks a lot better now.

Making the most out of the cards he has been dealt, fair play. I'd rate him a solid 6/10.
 
Reminder that chinless ended our season before we'd even kicked a ball :(

I said the day before Leicester the fans should have asked for a refund.
Poor Jose needed another 150m to be able to beat Derby convincingly
 
I see a lot of hate for Woodward and a lot of hate for Jose on here. But what about the Glazers?

Believe me. If we were not burdened with annual interest payments and had an ambitious owner, we'd be a monster on and off of the pitch.

We wouldn't have 42 year old Tony Valencia as first choice right back. We wouldn't STILL have Chris Smalling and Phil Jones at the club. We wouldn't be persisting with Juan Mata, hoping that one day he'll be a consistent right winger.

We'd have shipped them out and we'd have quality in every position. But we've got penny pinchers in charge of the whole operation. They care about spreadsheets and interest payments. Man City and PSG's owners care only about winning, whatever it takes.

That's the difference.
Agreed.
 
oh yeah? That's a ridiculous nonsense, some people seem to lack some brains cells to put things into perspective, it often loks like from a local pub where all the men after 10th beer start spouting shit.

Woodward replaced Gill at 2012, the next year we won our title and SAF who has been much more than a manager at the time recommended as his successor Moyes, who absolutely terribly failed, couldn't identify viable players and deserved to get kicked out but who would argue against the big SAF? and change the structure of the club? Woodward and his team identified Van Gaal, who was well known for playing great attackign football and promoting younsgters, when you're good enough you're young enough- we well know this, great fix and fit for United with a squad of revolting senior players. It was the best appointment at the time no other better manager was out there available, he even won the third place at WC, all looked optimistic and woodward get him players he wanted, he absolutely terribly failed, not only he changed his philosophy upside down, he couldn't show the door to rooney and all the transfers he made were shocking. There is absolutely no blame on woodward he backed the manager. The next one in the row was Mourinho - an absolutely logical decision with which even his haters including me agreed, again the best available manager regarding the situation, he got the players he wanted until maybe this window where it is clear that Mourinho had spend alread big sum of money which should have made us a better team then we are now challenging for something.

Where did he made a mistake appointing which managers? Super easy to talk about IFs and so on but retrospectively, it're good and possibly best decisions. This blaming Woodward games are really pathetic and shows lack of knowledge and perspective but I'd just say a common sense. Stop this bullshit

2013.
 
I’ve defended him enough but his habit of waiting until we’re mathematically out of the champions league spots before firing is a huge problem. How is it Chelsea can change managers so effortlessly but we seem to feck it up over and over and over again?
 
If Woodward is worth his salt he will wield the axe swiftly but he will not. He will do what he did with Moyes and LVG and wait until it is mathematically impossible to finiah in the top.4 to save the club a compensation pay out to the manager. If he acts soon the new man can come in and establish a rapport with the players rather than waiting until post season and then next year being a transitional one yet again when we all know this season is down the toilet already.
 
He's waiting to see if we'll be mathematically out of the top 4 before he pulls his finger out and does something.

We got a 4.9 rating on our app. That's all that matters.
 
What was Ed's plan for rebuilding the team when he sacked Moyes ?
his plan was to replace failing manager in Moyes, what else would he do or to replace with whom to rebuild the team? AT THE TIME Van Gaal was a good choice to restart everything after finishing fecking 7th
 
I remember Gary Neville saying that we went from Van Gaal to mourinho which is too different philosophies.

Need to get in an attacking DOF and then choose a manager to fit that philosophy. This probably should have been done once Ferguson retired but i can understand why it was not.
 
3 Successive managerial appointment failures and spouting out utter nonsense that Mourinho will still be backed and we will be challenging for trophies...we could do alot worse by starting our recovery process by removing Woodward immediately from all on field football matters!
 
Pull your fecking finger out Woodward and do the right thing.
This is horrific.
Nobody gaf how much it costs just cut the fecking cord.
 
his plan was to replace failing manager in Moyes, what else would he do or to replace with whom to rebuild the team? AT THE TIME Van Gaal was a good choice to restart everything after finishing fecking 7th

He hires the best managers available. That's not a good plan.

As a CEO you should analyzes your club's situation, the philosophy you want to play and build the team around, with a certain strategy of transfers year in year out so in certain time you'll have filled all the weaknesses.

What we did is panic appointing the best name out of contract available in LVG and Mourinho, while spending loads of money on players randomly without a clue, and thus here we're.

The moment he sacked Moyes, Ed had zero plan for the club and it has been showing. 6 years post SAF and zero improvement.

Sorry but impossible to trust him with yet a third panic managerial appointment. Someone should take that job from him.
 
He’s to blame for not getting us a centre back...
Oh yeah, Lindelof and Bailly are not CBs? How come that Pep, how come that Bayern nomatter who is in charge how come that other teams do better at recruiting. Mourinho is just shit to make any but world class players win him anything, let me not tell you again how much he spend during his time here, why should he pay 70m for another CB when it's not even our main problem?? Our main problem is that there is no fecking attack working
 
I get the feeling Ed just saw that Mourinho was a winner and hired him on that. He did not pay any attention to the fact that it is a completely different style of football to Van Gaal. Plus, he probably thought we would win the league in one of his first two seasons. Granted we won the Europa which is not all bad. But the philosophy is poor.

Worth mentioning that i heard that Mourinho wanted to Barcelona job when Rhjarrd (not correct spelling) left, but Johann Cryuff said no because he thought Mourinho's style did not fit barcelona. Kind of similar to us here.

Granted his style (Mourinho's) does work, he is the best at it, but it is not the united way, especially when a team like Derby dominates the ball. Sickening really watching us tonight.
 
He hires the best managers available. That's not a good plan.

As a CEO you should analyzes your club's situation, the philosophy you want to play and build the team around, with a certain strategy of transfers year in year out so in certain time you'll have filled all the weaknesses.

What we did is panic appointing the best name out of contract available in LVG and Mourinho, while spending loads of money on players randomly without a club, and thus here we're.

The moment he sacked Moyes, Ed had zero plan for the club and it has been showing. 6 years post SAF and zero improvement.

Sorry but impossible to trust him with yet a third panic managerial appointment. Someone should take that job from him.

I would concur.
 
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