Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)

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Brighton have appointed Dean Ashworth from the England team as their new Technical director.

Please tell what is taking our club so long to make an appointment?
 
Brighton have appointed Dean Ashworth from the England team as their new Technical director.

Please tell what is taking our club so long to make an appointment?
And he's incharge of player recruitment, so I guess a tech dir. does that too. I hope it's Berta.
 
Agree with everyone in the thread sayng its not ever happening. Its convenient leaking from Woodward to make it seem like he and the board are actually 'doing something' to try and solve our problems. They aren't.
 
Can't stress how much of an idiot this guy is with footballing matters, if he didn't have the full confidence in Mourinho this summer with transfer money then why wasn't he proactive and bring in a new manager, instead he now finds himself in the same situation he had with Van Gaal and Moyes by waiting for the inevitable meltdown before reacting on appointing a new manager with probably little options once again to choose from because their is no clever strategy behind the club moving forward.
 
More negativity based on speculation fueling accusations, wonderful. Maybe, just maybe, he's waiting for the right candidate for the job. Get someone in asap? Isn't that incredibly short sighted and incompetent and exactly what he's being slated for?
 
More negativity based on speculation fueling accusations, wonderful. Maybe, just maybe, he's waiting for the right candidate for the job. Get someone in asap? Isn't that incredibly short sighted and incompetent and exactly what he's being slated for?

They've had 5 years tbh
 
Ed's fault our players have a poor attitude and poor application. Also Ed's fault the tactics and set up of the team is changing game by game.
It's actually Ed's fault that he's indecisive and can't act fast enough.

Both Moyes and Lvg clearly should have been dismissed earlier and we could have had a chance to salvage those season but Ed let things get completely disastrous before acting.

You'd think after going such incident twice, the man would have learned from his mistakes but that not the case. Here we are for a third time, things already starting to look hopeless yet instead of being proactive for once and act before its completely too late, he's leaving things as they are to continue the rot.

Ed showing his incompetence for the third time in a row.
 
They've had 5 years tbh

Only if they've been looking for 5 years. We werent at the begining with moyes as we were trying to replicate the structure in place with SAF without a DoF. Rumors did surface after that that we were in the hunt and we were after Monchi but he chose to go to Roma. Its not a position to just get it filled asap as more then anyone can a DoF do significant short, medium, and long term damage to the club.

Personally i think Ribalta was bought in to effectively be the DoF (or close to it) but for whatever reason it didnt work out and he left.
 
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Or he’s rightfully coming to the conclusion that no matter who we sign we'll still play like dogshit because the formation/tactics are ancient. Seriously put Bale, Mane or Sane on our wings what would they actually do in our setup with the way we play?

He’s been given the money, just look at the numbers. He spent almost £80m on 2 Centre backs and neither are good enough, if reports are true he wanted the likes of Mina who would have just added to the other average players we already have at the club.
But he knew nothing about tactics when lurching from Moyes hoof ball to LVG possession based to Jose counter attack (park the bus)? Totally incompatible styles.

It's apparent Woodward knows very little about tactics.
 
The biggest issue with Woodward is his indecision regarding the sacking of managers. He (we) hang off until it’s too late, even though the eventual conclusion is clear as day. The summer fiasco was largely Mourinho’s doing and I backed the board’s logic (or at least the one they briefed to the press). But this a real criticism. He needs to sack Mourinho before it’s too late.
That's my only problem, too. Well, and initially signing José in the first place when it was clear as day we needed another progressive manager to build on what van Gaal was trying to do instead of doing a complete 180 and having to start from scratch again. Which we'll also have to do when José leaves again.
 
It happens in lots of companies.

An executive member of staff is great at making money, but has weaknesses in other areas. The board are willing to accept these deficiencies as long as profits keeps rolling in.

Of course it doesn't look great to The Glazers that Woodward has recruited 3 managers in a row who are seemingly unable to succeed. He's either made the wrong appointments or he has failed to provide the structure and tools necessary for the manager to do his job.

Like I said though, the bottom line with the Glazers is profit and growth, and so Woodward is safe. Success on the pitch will just be another bullet point on his next performance review.
 
Ed's fault our players have a poor attitude and poor application. Also Ed's fault the tactics and set up of the team is changing game by game.

This is the funny thing though the only poor result you could sort of blame on poor recruitment is the spurs game. (Spurs didn't buy anyone themselves). The rest fall on the managers lap. Draw with wolves, loss to Derby and Brighton are all Jose. We don't need Perisic and Alderweireld to beat that lot.
 
But he's not terrible at his job.

This.

He's not in charge of the football side of the club. He's in charge of the money side and doing a good job.

He only gets involved in transfers because um, you need money to buy players. If the finances work, the players come. If the finances don't work, the transfer gets vetoed.

Player marketability and future resale value does have an impact on the worth of the player, its not just their football ability.

Objectively speaking, he is doing his job fine and looking after the money.
 
Chelsea have had so many managers in the past ten years, the manager's door has a turnstile yet they continue to win cups and invariably challenge for the premiership, a most sustainable operation. We have had three managers since GOAT serving up various degrees of uninspiring indifferent crap despite having overflowing coffers.
Something does not compute.
 
But he's not terrible at his job.

Sorry, i should have been more specific - he's terrible at half of his job, that being the footballing half... which is the half most people care about.

I mean, for a start, he's hired 2 bad managers, and it looks for all the world like this will be the third.

This.

He's not in charge of the football side of the club. He's in charge of the money side and doing a good job.

He only gets involved in transfers because um, you need money to buy players. If the finances work, the players come. If the finances don't work, the transfer gets vetoed.

Player marketability and future resale value does have an impact on the worth of the player, its not just their football ability.

Objectively speaking, he is doing his job fine and looking after the money.

But this has nothing to do with the fact that he seems to go against what the managers wants by bringing in players they haven't asked for and/or thinking he knows better then said manager and thinking players don't represent value for money...

If he's doing such a great job of looking after money, why did we end up buying Fellaini for more then his actual release clause?
 
Ed needs to appoint a Director of Football to do the part he clearly struggles with. For all his faults on this side, his commercial success is impressive and the more the value of the brand grows off the field, the more opportunity you have for the club being eventually sold from the Glaziers, the debt paid off and a genuine Billionaire Fan of the club from China, UK or the Middle East saying 'Enough is Enough, this club has to be restored to its Footballing heritage as a European Superpower!'

So I'm ok with Woodward trying to build to that end game, he just needs to leave the footballing side to an expert in.the next 3 to 5 years.
Even Dan Ashworth who Brighton have just appointed who has a brilliant working knowledge of FA youth talent coming through would have a been a reasonable shout as DOF here but no we have to find someone who fits in with Mourinho, that on its own will be an impossible challenge!
 
The next step in the movement is going to be to shame all our sponsors into fecking off.

Short term pain but will hopefully lead to Woodward doing one.

Lets become a football club again.

Follow A Voice From the Terrace on twitter.
 
The next step in the movement is going to be to shame all our sponsors into fecking off.

Short term pain but will hopefully lead to Woodward doing one.

Lets become a football club again.

Follow A Voice From the Terrace on twitter.

Continuing with Mourinho and his God awful brand of football will start to turn the sponsors away before so long anyway.

Being that you are a match going fan, you should be able to see first hand what an absolute shambles we are out on that pitch. It’s all because of Mourinho’s lack of adaptability and his inability to get a group of very good players looking like a team.
 
Continuing with Mourinho and his God awful brand of football will start to turn the sponsors away before so long anyway.

Being that you are a match going fan, you should be able to see first hand what an absolute shambles we are out on that pitch. It’s all because of Mourinho’s lack of adaptability and his inability to get a group of very good players looking like a team.
Not at all. In relation to the players at his disposal, most fans could see he was getting them performing above expectation last season.

As for now, yes it's dreadful so far this year as I predicted the day the window shut before a football had been kicked.

Woodward had undermined the manager, the players would lose intensity and lose even more when the going got tough and the squad hadn't improved at all wheras our rivals had got stronger. This was always going to lead to a worse season and bad football team.

It will be worse next season under a new manager, mark my words.

We don't have the players or the right people making football decisions for a change of coach to mean much at all.
 
Everybody is entitled to their opinion on Ed Woodward and I know that it can be divided. Some of friends who also support United think that he has done a great by bringing in players like Zlatan, Pogba, Bailly etc. Although it is not something agree with, I don't like Ed being the chief man when it came to transfers anyway as I believe he is excellent at the commercial side but should have nothing to do with transfers, I think that this should be left to people who have football knowledge and I sadly don't think that is Jose. I think Ed is trying to use our club to turn himself into some time of z-list celebrity. I thought a Director of Football should have been brought in a long time ago. Enough about that anyway. This season I think Ed has been worse, as although I don't particularly care much for Jose, although I am not going to voice my opinion about that in this thread. I think Ed has done worse this season than in previous one's, if he had any faith in Jose at all he should have backed him all the way with whatever Jose thought was required to get us back to where we belong at the top and fighting for the lot. I think that if Ed wasn't prepared to give Jose the backing he should have got rid of him, I think that this season Jose should have been given a large amount of transfer cash to give his one last chance to show us that he is good enough to take us back to where we should be; 'winning the League' although I know it is easier dais than done. But were are Manchester United and we should be aiming to be the best and nothing less.
 
Give Mourinho the axe, now. Not when he fails to reach top-4. Now. It is inevitable. He's done.

Any upcoming managers with bold tactics and bright ideas?
 
Give Mourinho the axe, now. Not when he fails to reach top-4. Now. It is inevitable. He's done.

Any upcoming managers with bold tactics and bright ideas?

Not going to happen. There is probably a clause in Mourinho’s contract that reduces his payment if he can’t deliver Champions League qualification.
 
Give Mourinho the axe, now. Not when he fails to reach top-4. Now. It is inevitable. He's done.

Any upcoming managers with bold tactics and bright ideas?
He should have half a mind to sack himself as well, he's overseen three poor managerial regimes.
 
He’s as responsible as anyone for the shit we find ourselves in. Needs to understand he is clueless about football & bring in a DoF.
 
Relax guys. Woodward sending us a message in those shades with Evra. Upcoming Zidane assistant:cool:
 
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