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Same here.There should be no reality where we go into next season's squad planning with Shaw being in it. Plan as if he doesn't exist, prioritize the LB position first and foremost and look to sell Shaw the best we can.
I'd lose a lot of faith in our new structure if we go into next season relying on Shaw being fit.
Agreed. Just be ruthless. Let him recover and play his way back into form and the team and if he doesn’t retire from England sell him in the summer.Talk of selling Shaw or that he must do x or y to start ignores the fact we would have to pay him a substantial amount to get rid of him and no club will pay a fee for him without us covering a lot of his wages
What does this achieve?At this point in the season, and I realize it's still only November, we need to let Shaw sit on the bench a long, long time before bringing him back onto the pitch. Dreams of selling him, given his wages and injury record are pure fantasy.
Well said, couldn't agree more. I am not a fan of Shaw for quite some time. Too unreliable and to my liking, way too comfortable when playing. There aren't many teams out there who afford themselves the luxury to have so many fullbacks who are slightly above average at best in terms of contributing to attacks. Feels a bit like the McTominay chapter... as long as the player is around, there will always be a slight drag to hope for the best.Same here.
A guy who really only tried to be fit when England wanted him for the Euros. Hasn't been fit for Utd for 9 months, but a new manager coming in and Malacia is seen back in training and all of a sudden Luke Shaw is ready to start again.
He should have no future at the club, he's 10 years at Utd now and we're still hearing the same old guff over and over. But yet, he's still one of the best left backs around, best defender best this, best that..... but only when he's fit....
Technically he's a quality player, but he's 29 and at this stage he is probably not going to all of a sudden be able to stay fit and play every week, he should be one of the first out the door.
What’s the point of a player that is never fit.People can insult him all they like and I get the frustration totally but he's the best left back we have by an absolute mile and we still have a lot to play for this season so this is great news.
Sancho was quite a different scenario he was ostracised but is still young and without major fitness issues. Quite easy to imagine Shaw not being fit for a prolonged period again in his career. Think we would basically have to payoff his contract to get rid of him which I guess would have an impact on our ability to sign new playersThat's why I said we should look into it. Going into another season relying on his fragile body to stay fit would be bonkers. We got rid of Sancho, we can work something out with Shaw as well.
What’s the point of a player that is never fit.
For how long though? That should be the question.He's back in training so seems he may be fit soon.
For how long though? That should be the question.
Good post, I've never been able to warm to him.Same here.
A guy who really only tried to be fit when England wanted him for the Euros. Hasn't been fit for Utd for 9 months, but a new manager coming in and Malacia is seen back in training and all of a sudden Luke Shaw is ready to start again.
He should have no future at the club, he's 10 years at Utd now and we're still hearing the same old guff over and over. But yet, he's still one of the best left backs around, best defender best this, best that..... but only when he's fit....
Technically he's a quality player, but he's 29 and at this stage he is probably not going to all of a sudden be able to stay fit and play every week, he should be one of the first out the door.
Can’t really say someone’s the best player when they play like 3 games a season.Well he is the best player in his position that we have by quite a distance. So for as long as possible obviously.
It’s probably a total coincidence but it does feel decidedly scummy.They're all coming out of the woodwork for the new manager. Must be nearly everyone back now, maybe Maguire and Mainoo just who can't be far off being ready for Ipswich either
Can’t really say someone’s the best player when they play like 3 games a season.
He's averaged 32 games per season for the last 5 seasons and played 47 the season before last.
If he's not the best left back we have then I'd love you to tell me who's better.
A rare Luke Shaw sighting!
He's averaged 32 games per season for the last 5 seasons and played 47 the season before last.
If he's not the best left back we have then I'd love you to tell me who's better.
He’s the best only because he’s the only one, Malacia can’t be counted.
What he said @Marcelinho87He's averaged 32 games per season for the last 5 seasons and played 47 the season before last.
If he's not the best left back we have then I'd love you to tell me who's better.
He’s just to un reliable. I’d rather we played Amass and developed him.And was our POTS a few times since he broke his leg. Yes his availability is a big big issue and it unbalances the side but a ruthless football focus outfit would have him battling with someone like Nuno Mendes or the best new young left back for the spot and not just signing backups for the sake of it. That’s how high the competition needs to be here or at any other major club that wants to win
A rare Luke Shaw sighting!
Great news. Bench him and play Amass till Malacia becomes available and then try to sign an LB in winter.
He is on silly salary till 2027. He is not gonna go away if he can just waltz in whenever he is fit into the team. This way, at least he has some motivation to try to find another team.Eh? Could you explain this masterplan to me please?
He is on silly salary till 2027. He is not gonna go away if he can just waltz in whenever he is fit into the team. This way, at least he has some motivation to try to find another team.
Is it really a 'regular' thing? He's missed very important matches and tournaments for England as well.He’s absolute class. But have to question commitment when England calls v United on regular base. All things considered by far our best signing in after Sir Alex era…but do we commit to him? He doesn’t maybe commit to us
He is on silly salary till 2027. He is not gonna go away if he can just waltz in whenever he is fit into the team. This way, at least he has some motivation to try to find another team.
He’s absolute class. But have to question commitment when England calls v United on regular base. All things considered by far our best signing in after Sir Alex era…but do we commit to him? He doesn’t maybe commit to us
It's a myth. In his England career he's been selected for 46 squads and missed 53 squads due to injury, so 53 potential caps he's missed out on. He's been unavailable for England more times than he's shown up for them.Is it really a 'regular' thing? He's missed very important matches and tournaments for England as well.
Hell, if things had gone differently and he hadn't got injured again we might have been saying that going to the WC with England got his fitness up so he was ready for this season. Unfortunately he did get injured again, but I believe that happened when he was back at Utd again so it's not like going to the WC actually caused it.
With his injury issues I just don't see any way he can consistently play as a wing back with the intensity and workrate required. Playing as a left center back might be his future if he's going to stay fit.
He is our best LB, because we will not buy better or quality LB till we can push him out. And we need to push him out because he is almost never fit and in form and he can't be our no 1 choice.He is still by far our best left back when he is fit and in form. Like you said, he will be till 2027 at the club anyway so we should use him while we can if that improves the team. Putting him on the bench seems to be a 'cut the nose to spite the face' type of move.
Id swap each player here. Bruno certainly most overrated. Good 18 month time at first. Shaw unfit a lot but when fit and up at speed always consistent goodI find it such a baffling argument that he’s our best LB, as he’s basically our only one. He’s not one of the best LBs around either. Unfortunately, as I genuinely dislike him, Robertson has been a much better fullback. Gvardiol has been better for a couple of seasons now. In Europe you’ll find plenty of better LBs.
His top level is excellent, but even after an injury it takes him a while to get to that level, plays there for a short while and gets injured or loses form.
IMHO, he might just be our most overrated player. Our best signing post Ferguson he is not; that would be Bruno.
That being said, having him fit for the season would undoubtedly improve the team; Dalot has been woeful as a LB, and Martinez is a LCB. But Shaw needs replacing - it’s a top priority. He’s one of those players that is ruined by injuries and a lack of consistency. Even at his very best, I found him lacking in intensity, however.
But it’s not how many England games he missed. It’s times he has been fit for England after being unfit for United…then again unfit for United. Hes been unfit for us 8 months but somehow manage to play Euros.It's a myth. In his England career he's been selected for 46 squads and missed 53 squads due to injury, so 53 potential caps he's missed out on. He's been unavailable for England more times than he's shown up for them.
