Should be on the chopping block this summer
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to celebrate rare back-to-back victories for Manchester United! They analyse the late win in the Europa League vs. Rangers and then try and find things to analyse in a pretty dour game vs. Fulham. They also chat about the latest Marcus Rashford news, and look at the latest transfer news.
Thats the thing, he doesnt
Put a "Fragile" sign on that dude and get him in the shop window. Nobody dare even look at him until the summer.
England games coming up or something?
The injury he's been out for was caused by training to get fit for the upcoming season and was unrelated to the injury that he'd had before, it would have happened even if he hadn't gone to the EURO's
Shaw ought to be looking at teams like Fulham or West Ham to be playing for now. To be that injury prone over the years (granted that 2015 injury started all his woes) just says he can’t play at the top level anymore. Especially in Ruben’s system, and I don’t care if he was our player of the year in 2018, it’s high time he looks elsewhere for his latter years of playing.
What makes you think playing at Fulham or West Ham is any way less physically taxing than playing at United?
I have posted a similar thought before. I have all the sympathy for his injuries and development (under certain managers) but at the same time I do query how much he could have done himself to alleviate somes issues. If I had to name tangible things, it would be conditioning considering his body type and effort on the pitch.
On the one hand, I'm not expecting him to run up and down the left flank 50 times a game but in the past 3-4 years, it's almost a delight if we see 3 overlaps a game. How much of that is injury and how much of that is injury/conditioning/effort?
Turns 30 this year - how time flies.
Current contract expires in 2027.
He's a feckin' crock, sadly. Realistically - no, he won't be an asset for this club in years to come.
If we can get a deal done, we should.
Current contract expires in 2027.
He's a feckin' crock, sadly. Realistically - no, he won't be an asset for this club in years to come.
If we can get a deal done, we should.
Yes.
That injury was horrible but even in 14/15 season he missed 31 games through 4 different injuries.
But yeah, that double leg break at PSV screwed at least few years of his career. Shame as he was flying at the start of that season. Top LB but career ruined by injuries.
Like clockwork. Sell in the summer please
Feel like im alone in liking Luke Shaw.
Yes his injury record is shocking, but when hes fit (yea i know) hes one of the top players in his position. I genuinely think if he was luckier with injuries he would be a shoe on united captain.
He feels different to our other shower of crocks due to actually performing when he does play.
Yes his injury record is shocking, but when hes fit (yea i know) hes one of the top players in his position. I genuinely think if he was luckier with injuries he would be a shoe on united captain.
He feels different to our other shower of crocks due to actually performing when he does play.
He will be hard to shift, at least to a premiership club. He's a liability.
Pre-injury in the limited time he played under Amorim it was always LCB. I don’t think he can play wing back anymore.
Maybe in an emergency but you would think that position is just too much of a demand on such an injury prone player. It surely must be LCB or leave the club at this point (and with his contract and history I doubt anyone would pay for him)
To be honest I don’t even think Mazraoui plays it to the requisite level either. When the wingbacks are expected to hold width and progress the ball in isolations like that, you really need physically fit players.
As much flack as Dalot cops, the difference between how he can get up and down the field in contrast to Mazraoui (and Malacia if he even counts) is pretty substantial
He’s not fit to be United captain and I think he’s a bit overrated by our fans these days. He’s been hot and cold his entire career, and he doesn’t seem to look after himself well. His stock has rises exponentially since he’s been regularly injured, which is standard amongst our fans. He’s not really a player I’d call a leader, nothing inspirational about him, switches off in games, doesn’t set an example or appear to look after himself like a footballer should… I don’t see captain material
Indeed. Prime Luke Shaw is certainly one of the best LB in the PL. And he is still young enough to give United a couple of good years.
But obviously there is a huge question mark against his fitness.
Lovely set of trotters.
Luke had his senior debut for Southampton in 2012, there is a lot of mileage there. Would be very surprised if he has years left in him. But we can hope
Leave Delboy, Grandad and Rodney out of this
I think we can safely say there isn't that much mileage in those legs!
Assuming in the unlikely event that he can stay fit he's a LCB from now on, he doesn't have a future as a LB or LWB
You mean like last year when we lost 3-0 against Bournemouth last year with him in the team, or when we lost 2-0 against West Ham few games after that, or 2-0 against Spurs? Or when we drew Galata 3-3 in what was terrible game?
Last time he was starter for us we won 4 (easy) games, even though we conceeded 5 goals against easy opponents. Before that in his 6 straight starts we lost 3 games, drew 1, and won just 2.
15 games, 8 wins, 2 draws, 5 losses was our record with him starting record last season.
Or the year before when we lost 4-0 against Brentford with him, or 6-3 against City, or 7-0 against Liverpool when he was our worst player and what was probably one of worst individual performances of last few years at United?
Luke Shaw's quality, as pretty much our every other player that is injured, is overrated by the same people who like to rewrite history and make him better than he actually is, simply because they remember him as our only natural left back(except Malacia) and think he is second coming of Roberto Carlos just because he can control the ball with his left foot and make few decent midfield passes. Just because others are shite that doesn't make him great. I am missing him, but I can't wait for us to actually sign a fullback that will actually be available, any decent average Premierleague left back would raise us one level, that's not even the point.
He has one assist in last 4 years. 3 in last 6 years. That is quite poor for a player that makes us much better team, however you look at it. I won't even mention goals because he is a fullback, but you probably know the number.
Or what @pocco said, it's quite amazing how people forget how many times he has switched off for us with his mates Maguire and de Gea in his last few years for us.
Made of wet tissue but when he's on form he's an incredible player.
Praying here this guy stays fit and healthy.
Praying here this guy stays fit and healthy.
Sadly, like Phil Jones, whether he's any good is secondary to his complete inability to stay fit.
Sadly, like Phil Jones, we were daft enough to give a known sicknote a long term contract.
He'll be here for another two and a half seasons. Then we'll release him.
Sadly, like Phil Jones, we were daft enough to give a known sicknote a long term contract.
He'll be here for another two and a half seasons. Then we'll release him.
That’s just not true. He rushed himself back to fitness for England and then played for England instead of spending the summer recovering. All of this risks the chance of repeating the injury or further injury.
This is a ridiculous series of comments:
Luke Shaw's quality, as pretty much our every other player that is injured, is overrated by the same people who like to rewrite history and make him better than he actually is, simply because they remember him as our only natural left back(except Malacia) and think he is second coming of Roberto Carlos just because he can control the ball with his left foot and make few decent midfield passes. Just because others are shite that doesn't make him great. I am missing him, but I can't wait for us to actually sign a fullback that will actually be available, any decent average Premierleague left back would raise us one level, that's not even the point.
Luke Shaw -- when fit, which is of course the problem -- is an outstanding left fullback. During his brief run with the England NT at the Euros, he was arguably England's best player. That may not be saying much in the eyes of some, but England almost won the Euros in 2024.
But no, Luke Shaw is no Roberto Carlos and I have never seen anyone claim such a thing. Others are shite on the United squad, but Shaw shined brightly with the England NT which was actually a decent squad. Kane, Rice, Saka...Shaw stood tall alongside them.
I do want to sign a left fullback too so we're on the same page there, but not because Shaw is shite. We need a left fullback because Shaw is almost never fit and Malacia is in fact shite. Dalot has done his best at the position but he's simply not up to the job. Amass is too young, although I wish he could get a runout against a lesser club but that hasn't been possible this season. We need a left fullback and if Shaw can outcompete that new left fullback, great, but if he can't then use him in the rotation as Amorim sees fit. But let's not starting running down Shaw on quality. Fitness, by all means have a go; but his quality when fit is immense.
Luke Shaw's quality, as pretty much our every other player that is injured, is overrated by the same people who like to rewrite history and make him better than he actually is, simply because they remember him as our only natural left back(except Malacia) and think he is second coming of Roberto Carlos just because he can control the ball with his left foot and make few decent midfield passes. Just because others are shite that doesn't make him great. I am missing him, but I can't wait for us to actually sign a fullback that will actually be available, any decent average Premierleague left back would raise us one level, that's not even the point.
Luke Shaw -- when fit, which is of course the problem -- is an outstanding left fullback. During his brief run with the England NT at the Euros, he was arguably England's best player. That may not be saying much in the eyes of some, but England almost won the Euros in 2024.
But no, Luke Shaw is no Roberto Carlos and I have never seen anyone claim such a thing. Others are shite on the United squad, but Shaw shined brightly with the England NT which was actually a decent squad. Kane, Rice, Saka...Shaw stood tall alongside them.
I do want to sign a left fullback too so we're on the same page there, but not because Shaw is shite. We need a left fullback because Shaw is almost never fit and Malacia is in fact shite. Dalot has done his best at the position but he's simply not up to the job. Amass is too young, although I wish he could get a runout against a lesser club but that hasn't been possible this season. We need a left fullback and if Shaw can outcompete that new left fullback, great, but if he can't then use him in the rotation as Amorim sees fit. But let's not starting running down Shaw on quality. Fitness, by all means have a go; but his quality when fit is immense.
Taking the piss if you ask me.
He found out we signed another player in his position
Every time this thread is bumped I'm fully expecting to see an update that he's tripped over his own feet getting out of his car and injured himself again for another 8-9 months
He has risen
Shaw was supposed to come back at the end of January, it was reported weeks ago.
We didn't sign a player in his position though. We signed a left wingback and Shaw is a LCB. It's where Amorim played him few times he was fit this season and where he is going to get his chances imo. 30 years old this summer so given injuries wouldn't be sure about him at left back anymore, let alone wingback position.
He actually only has a goal or assist every 9 games throughout his career, for all the "Attacking" ability that even I regularly state he has he clearly doesn't show it consistently.
For reference - AWB has a goal or assist every 11 games throughout his career and is thought of as overly defensive whereas someone like TAA who is very attacking has a goal or assist every 2.5 games roughly.
For reference - AWB has a goal or assist every 11 games throughout his career and is thought of as overly defensive whereas someone like TAA who is very attacking has a goal or assist every 2.5 games roughly.
TAA takes loads of set pieces and plays in a very good attacking unit.
Shaw’s ability to progress the ball, and overall top end technique, is there for all to see. He’s on a different planet to AWB in possession.
Can he play upfront?
Now that we signed him competition, I think we might see Prime Shaw for a while.
I’ve been saying for well over two years he needed to move to centre back to prolong his career. Any idiot could see this coming.
He will be injured again by the end of Feb. No point in getting your hopes high.