It makes no sense.
No player thinks the best way to get a starting spot for the summer is to render themselves unfit for pretty much the entire season. Including the last international warm up games before the tournament.
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It makes no sense.
No player thinks the best way to get a starting spot for the summer is to render themselves unfit for pretty much the entire season. Including the last international warm up games before the tournament.
Highly doubt Luke Shaw would willingly go to the Euros with zero match fitness since February if he had the choice. He was very close to not being picked.
Yeah, personally I don't think there's anything sinister here with Shaw etc. It was just unlucky re the injuries and he just happens to be fit and Southgate decided to take him. Some players love representing their country, which is commendable. I was just reading some of the posts in here and recalled seeing that article during the season which was along similar lines of players "lacking commitment" etc.
I think they are light on options on LB and he couldn’t afford to bring 2 injured defenders in the squad so he had to pick one.
Yep Ten Hag can't be blamed for all the injuries.......but the injuries have happened the whole season (So many muscle injuries and especially also so many set-backs from injuries) and it looks like the coaching staff & medical staff couldn't find the problem.......that is a big worry.....someone must take the responsibility for this problem.
The answer is in your nickname.
Luke Shaw has been a fat mess for the majority of his time here. He keeps getting injured because he is carrying way more weight than his body is supposed to. Staying fit is the bare minimum to expect from a pro player.
Only 28 years old and already past his prime, and only going downhill (not his 200k a week though).
Why am i not surprised...
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Nonsense
We can't be going into next season relying on either Shaw or Malacia unfortunately. We need a new first choice with one of the two leaving. Shaw makes more sense I suppose on his daft wages.
With the Casemiro business with his hamstring, the fact that EtH was angry that he was told that Malacia and Shaw could be back and that Reguilon's loan was cancelled, and now criticism from Shaw...it's not looking good for our medical department is it?
Or Ten Hag really if I’m honest
Criticisms are being aimed at the medical department from EtH, Casemiro and now Shaw. Unless you think the stories about how training has been too intense are true-perhaps they are- then i'm not sure how EtH is to blame here? If the medical department and the player say Shaw is ok to play and the team is struggling then it seems perfectly natural for EtH to want to play his first choice left back. They've both given him assurances that he's ok, to the extent that the club has cancelled the Reguilon loan.
Ultimately its common sense that injury prone players shouldn't play too many minutes straight after returning so the manager should be ensuring that doesn't happen
Looks like he knows ETH is gonna get the sack. Why would he come out and say he got rushed back from injury by him if he knew he’d be playing under him next year. That would be awkward.
Depends what the injury is.
If the medical department gives the go ahead and says there’s no concern then you manage minutes depending on overall fitness and the typical stuff of avoiding sprinting at full speed etc.
«It’s kind of everyone’s fault. Partly my fault, partly medical staff, I think everyone would admit that. I didn’t train the whole week. The scan came back and there wasn’t too much there. But I didn’t train all week, then trained the day before the game. If the manager asks me to play, I’m never going to say no. I shouldn’t have played.»
So he comes off because he’s felt something, he doesn’t train until the scan comes back and the medical staff gives him the go ahead, manager picks him and he lasts 45 mins and then he’s out for close to 4 months. Unless it‘s an impact injury, which it isn’t, then either his body is completely fecked or someone is overlooking something they definetely shouldn’t be overlooking. Considering the Casemiro, Martinez and Mount stuff
However, Shaw asserted that he was close to being ready for full training with his club.
“No one knows the situation, what’s been happening,” Shaw said.
“I think people have seen that there was a setback, but I was actually very close to returning to team training. I was, of course, pushing to try and get back for the games and the final and I think I pushed too hard.
“I came back too quick and I actually ended up getting another injury in my hamstring, which was three weeks from the final and they said it was a six-week injury, so that’s why there was that setback. I think people have been getting confused with what’s actually happened because nothing had been said.
Finally someone pointed out the main culprit. The manager trusts his medical department when it comes to players injuries.
It got so bad with the left back position, than Ten Hag publicly said that he released Reguilon on the promise of the medical team that he will have both Malacia and Shaw ready in January.
Casemiro was cleared to play, but he asked for second opinion, and it turned out that he wasn't supposed to have been cleared to play.
Even Shaw is saying that it's partially him to blame, and partially the medical department for the Luton game. No mention of the coach.
So yeah, I have little sympathy for our medical department this year.
All this is story time. Point is, we need a new starting LB.
Because people online are saying he couldn't be arsed to play or was faking injury, then crying foul play when weeks after the season has finished he's semi-fit and away with the England squad.
Because people are writing him off as injury prone / needing a new starter at LB.
I mean he is injury prone and we do need a new starter at lb though?
That’s because he is injury prone. Don’t think he’s ever played a full season for us.
Say what about Jose but he was spot on regarding Pogba, Martial and Shaw. Too bad the idiots in-charge decided to undermine him and support these players instead. Subsequently, all of them got huge contract extensions when we should have looked at buyers for them. Pogba left for free, Martial is leaving on a free and same will happen with Shaw too. A staggering amount of money has been wasted on players with very little contribution to the team's cause.
Shaw is survivor. There is possibility that he would welcome his 5th UTD manager this season.
Should be on choping block with everyone from LVG/Mou era.
Should be on choping block with everyone from LVG/Mou era.
At least we’ve learnt and it looks like we’re cashing in on Sancho.
I would be happy to cash in on the back of a strong Euro’s showing.
One of our only players who is genuinely world class on his day but unfortunately we just can’t rely on him.
One of our only players who is genuinely world class on his day but unfortunately we just can’t rely on him.
Except he won't because he is such a great footballer. Or somethin. Good footballer no doubt but can't be relied upon.
He’ll be player of the season next season mark my words
Should have been let go a while back but still here eating his part of the British National cake that is United as it is with the other non-british wankers we have stealing a living.
Until we let go of all the leeches, incompetent and injury prone players, we will remain mediocre
Until we let go of all the leeches, incompetent and injury prone players, we will remain mediocre
Well he's missed more games through injury than Martial...
Not disagreeing with y'all but can't blame him for trying to create his own narrative. Regardless of whether the comment pisses off Ten Hag or not his career already seems to be drawing towards a close, so he needs to defend himself.
Shaw has had injury problems since long before ETH arrived.
Muscle injuries happen for a lot of reasons. It could be the manager overtraining the players, but overtraining is relative. If players dont stick to their offseason training schedules and diets and instead just drink and eat fast food for 6 weeks they will be detrained and more likely to pick up muscle injuries.
If he ever does an autobiography I wonder if he will detail his love of Lucozade.
Exactly. I maintain that that horror tackle by Moreno back in September 2015 which broke Luke’s leg and nearly resulted in it having to be amputated is why he’s so injury prone. He’s never really recovered from that.
Watching DiMarco for Italy last night really made me long for prime Shaw. The likeness was quite uncanny at times.
Last season was such a shame and it seems all to much to ask at thid point but if he and Malacia could regain and stay fit we’d have a nice setup, especially with Amass vying for an opportunity,
Last season was such a shame and it seems all to much to ask at thid point but if he and Malacia could regain and stay fit we’d have a nice setup, especially with Amass vying for an opportunity,
and that's the problem. It's difficult and risky to plan him as a starter and we don't know if Malacia will ever get the level and form required to play for us. Amass is very young and although I'd like us to give him chances, he shouldn't play on a weekly base. So, there is a huge need to buy a LB but not everyone seems to see it.
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