I heard he made a contraption that goes from his ears down his sleeve to where there's a button, which if pressed makes his glasses come flying off, does it all the time apparently. If you look closely in replays you can see it. Paul Zenon helped him make it.
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I heard he made a contraption that goes from his ears down his sleeve to where there's a button, which if pressed makes his glasses come flying off, does it all the time apparently. If you look closely in replays you can see it. Paul Zenon helped him make it.
And still, she doth protests too much.
Alright whatever that means. Keep on deluding yourself!
Can, Origi and Sturridge too off the top of my head
tbf, they didn't start the game.
3 points away to Arsenal is always a good result and Liverpool have a lot to be positive about regarding their ability to blitz the opposition in focused bursts of play.
Genuinely think Liverpool will still drop points against the bus parking sides that make up a fair percentage of teams in the middle of the division, especially where the opposition are able to survive the initial onslaught without conceding.
United v Liverpool matches will be terrifying for both sets of fans I think. Can see one side getting a 2 or 3 goal lead and then it ending 3-2 or 4-3 a bit like yesterday.
Interesting times.
Genuinely think Liverpool will still drop points against the bus parking sides that make up a fair percentage of teams in the middle of the division, especially where the opposition are able to survive the initial onslaught without conceding.
United v Liverpool matches will be terrifying for both sets of fans I think. Can see one side getting a 2 or 3 goal lead and then it ending 3-2 or 4-3 a bit like yesterday.
Interesting times.
It's to be expected. He's at Liverpool now so managers or players that were liked/adored/loved become the mortal enemy, those they hated /were disgusted by/ abhorred (see Mourinho) now become saviours and adored. It's just a natural human tribal response.
Similar to last year. They can beat anyone on a good day thanks to Klopp which makes them extremely dangerous but they'll lack consistency and you won't get too far with scrubs like Moreno.
Apart from Mane (and maybe Karius) I've also been unimpressed with their transfer activities.
Apart from Mane (and maybe Karius) I've also been unimpressed with their transfer activities.
Yes it's a ridiculous claim as Origi, Sturridge, Milner, Can & Firmino should all be added too and all came back late from the Euros or worse (due to all the travel involved) Copa America. Our teams in early pre-season games consisted of players who didn't go away and youth players. Though I've no doubt that Klopp has driven them hard in pre-season (likely much harder than Wenger has Arsenal).
We've noticed - by the amount of posts you make in Liverpool targetted threads. Like the little 10 yr old boy who claims he hates the girl he sits next to in school but secretly adores
We've noticed - by the amount of posts you make in Liverpool targetted threads. Like the little 10 yr old boy who claims he hates the girl he sits next to in school but secretly adores
I actually applaud your participation on the CAF. We have far to many sane and undeluded Liverpool supporters on here. Some variation is always welcome.
Liverpool may well be the most enjoyable side to watch this season. Leicester are probably the only side with more pace going forward but I reckon Liverpool have the higher individual attacker quality (as Leicester's best players seem to be fighting their own demons at the minute). I could definitely see a whole bunch of high scoring goalfests going either way when whenever Liverpool play, especially if Henderson continues to be deployed as the deepest midfielder.
In a game against a nervy Arsenal back-line, Firmino didn't really impress much. I don't really see the need to start him ahead of Origi unless it's a home game against side who are set up to take a draw.
In a game against a nervy Arsenal back-line, Firmino didn't really impress much. I don't really see the need to start him ahead of Origi unless it's a home game against side who are set up to take a draw.
Delighted with that. Always great to get off to a winning start and even better when the game is like that.
From their first team line-up Arsenal were missing; Gabriel (assuming he is first choice to partner K.), Koscielny, Ozil, Xhaka (assuming he is now first choice - though his contribution was poor when he did come on) and one would assume Giroud up front. Whilst Liverpool were missing (assumed first team starters) ; Matip, Karius, Milner (all the talk was he would start at LB in place of Moreno - if not Gomez when fully fit again) and Sturridge. Neither team was at full strength. In fact far from it.
Whilst I'd agree that missing your preferred CB pairing is possibly a greater worry, the Holding/Chambers partnership didn't, as a number of commentators have pointed out (including Wenger) make a direct contribution to conceding the goals, partly responsible of course, but not obvious errors per se (such as those made by Moreno). It's a convenient claim to make though. The fact Firmino started up front in place of the injured Sturridge probably gave the CBs a far easier ride than otherwise too. And Chambers did score a fine goal.
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Pool are a good bet for a decent cup run.
That defense means a league challenge is out of reach, but if the attack clicks they can win any given game.
Mane is great for about 8 games a season on average, good for a dozen more and may as well be sat at home for the rest, and the newcastle bloke is the same, so consistency will be an issue up front.
I'm not sure what Klopp is bringing still, they had displays like this under the last two managers, and remains just as inconsistent as well, but I do think that Jordan Henderson is just not enough of a leader to get them going, you've been soft since gerrard left, and but for the fact the arse are even softer, you probably should have ended up with 1 point yesterday after a 4-1 lead.
It was like a competition between butter and margerine in a heatwave, who melted the most.
That defense means a league challenge is out of reach, but if the attack clicks they can win any given game.
Mane is great for about 8 games a season on average, good for a dozen more and may as well be sat at home for the rest, and the newcastle bloke is the same, so consistency will be an issue up front.
I'm not sure what Klopp is bringing still, they had displays like this under the last two managers, and remains just as inconsistent as well, but I do think that Jordan Henderson is just not enough of a leader to get them going, you've been soft since gerrard left, and but for the fact the arse are even softer, you probably should have ended up with 1 point yesterday after a 4-1 lead.
It was like a competition between butter and margerine in a heatwave, who melted the most.
ha ha - nice banter
He had a totally forgettable first half - but then most of our attackers did due to the lack of service from midfield (credit Arsenal doing a Klopp). In the second however he was superb cog in the machine so despite him not scoring or assisting, and thereby becoming an obvious pro, he was still integral to the way we played and scored.
There are so many cliched inaccuracies in this post I just can't be arsed correcting them. I'd just suggest you reading back the last 10-15 pages to see the counter-arguments to your claims re. defence, consistency, Klopp etc.
Counting the person missing isnt anything, i think the amount of quality arsenal missed is much higher than Liverpool. Liverpool have many similar level of players, arsenal have less depth hence there loss was bigger. Ozil,xhakha,Kos,Giroud were huge misses as they had to play sanchez away from his best position and he also became ineffective.
Liverpool players out were of a similar level that was playing apart from Moreno. Although i agree that pool will have an interesting season, they have a good style and they will entertain. They will win big and lose big. The only thing is Your dependence on coutinho is very high. I think without him you will be a very average team. He does tend to blow hot and cold. So that will be your challenge for top 4 fail.
Sir Alex's glasses never flew off when he won the treble. Klopp's go into orbit after a point at Anfield with West Brom. Seems like he must have a hidden wire that runs down his trouser leg that propells them on the command of the Kop.
A lot of people have been saying we played against a weakened back 4, which is true - but conveniently forgetting that we didn't have our first choice back line either.
Of course our defence has been a concern, but we have signed 2 centre halves and a new goalkeeper, 2 of which didn't play because a) Karius is injured b) Matip not fully fit to start as he has missed a lot of pre-season with injury.
I ignored the weakened arsenal defense, as I think your front line can score against anyone on their day.
Your problems are Moreno (who will have to play games over the season and will cost you), and I just do not see Henderson and your midfield offering enough protection, defense will be an ongoing issue.
We know Moreno is a problem. Most of us spend an eternity on here and on our own forums talking about him. If Milner, or Gomez had been fit they may have started yesterday instead of him.
I've seen similar comments about Guardiola as well, supposedly 'playing up to the cameras'. It's funny because I think the reason these kind of managers do stuff that people interpret like this is actually because of the exact opposite: they get so immersed in the game they completely forget the cameras are there. The allegation Klopp staged his glasses falling off as well
I've seen similar comments about Guardiola as well, supposedly 'playing up to the cameras'. It's funny because I think the reason these kind of managers do stuff that people interpret like this is actually because of the exact opposite: they get so immersed in the game they completely forget the cameras are there. The allegation Klopp staged his glasses falling off as well
Indeed - if Klopp was still at Dortmund most on here would still be a fan of the guy. Just because he is now Liverpool manager that all changes. Jeez.
He is different and a bit eccentric, now those that liked that part of his personality, suddenly can't stand him for it - weird.
i love his eccentricity (is that even a real word?), he seems like a fan that's landed his dream job and that's it. His interviews are always interesting and always feel off the cuff. Doesn't seem to engage in mind games and just says what he thinks. I'm not saying it's necessarily a good thing, but the way he laughed when Pool conceded their third goal shows to me he's a genuine character and a generally likeable guy.
Indeed, and most neutrals , pundits etc like him too, and to be honest laugh at some of the things he does.
He is a real character and laughs at himself frequently. I don't see what's wrong in showing a bit of passion either.
I've seen similar comments about Guardiola as well, supposedly 'playing up to the cameras'. It's funny because I think the reason these kind of managers do stuff that people interpret like this is actually because of the exact opposite: they get so immersed in the game they completely forget the cameras are there. The allegation Klopp staged his glasses falling off as well
I actually like Guardiola but find Klopp incredibly annoying. It's nothing to do with him managing Liverpool, as I would find him just as annoying if he managed anyone else in the PL. I have also found the likes of Holloway extremely irritating down the years (though, I don't mind him as a pundit these days) so it's nothing to do with who he's managing.
The fact is, I didn't have to see him on tv or listen to him regularly when he was at Dortmund so I had absolutely no opinion on the guy other than he was doing a good job at Dortmund and he seemed a-bit ott in his reactions etc. I just find the chap annoying and that's it really.
Sturridge is gonna be your first choice? Personally I doubt it. Think he prefers Firmino or Origi more. Nevertheless, it's a good result but Arsenal have an history of having false starts. Hopefully your season finishes like the last two teams who defeated Arsenal on the opening day at Emirates.
Wow. Imagine Man Utd fans hating a Liverpool manager. So weird and impossible, how the feck did that happen? We should all have Kloppo posters on our wall and love the lovable rogue.
Thought they would give Arsenal a buggering before the game and I was not wrong, but that Liverpool defense looks like it will give up a shit load of goals.
Fair enough if you find Klopp annoying, must admit I really like him but a couple of things he has done have irritated me. I just don't get the comments of people saying he only does stuff for the cameras, it's a pretty silly suggestion, regardless of whether or not you like his antics.
So he is hated purely because he is at Liverpool, not because of who or what sort of person he is.
Most hate Mourinho cos he is massive tit whether he at United, Chelsea or West Bromwich chuffin Albion.
If Ranieri was your manager I wouldn't hate him at all - purely because he seems like a top bloke. It's not just about what club these people manage.
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You are right it did, and will - but it's not our first choice back 4 or goalkeeper. How many times do we have to keep repeating that?
Personally I don't think we will ship as many goals as some think. Firstly that was not our first choice back line. Keeper will change although I don't think Migs done a lot wrong yesterday. Clyne is nailed on starter, LB (he who shall not be named) will change and I think Matip and one other will be starting in CB quite possibly Clavan. As for yesterdays goals the first was our standard LB f#*k up, after that it was about concentration or should I say lack of. The second goal caught us cold we had just gone 4-1 up and switched off thinking game over, the Ox was probably the only Arsenal player at that time that looked like he could be arsed and scored a great solo goal (even if it was deflected) the third was a great delivery from a set piece (a tad offside but no excuse a great delivery) after that we seemed to wake up a bit and didn't really give them much of a sniff after that. I'm not saying we are going to be rock solid with the best defense in the league, I just don't think we will be as bad as some think. Oh and on another note, Arsenal played with two weak CB's but also had two sitting CDM's that never really strayed that far from their CB's.
Don't think the first goal was Moreno's fault. Not sure why GNev stated that it was. Lallana lost it to an outstanding tackle. Moreno's position was reasonable given that Liverpool's midfielder had the ball and a counter was on. It would actually have been odd if Moreno was sat on Walcott while Lallana looked to advance.
Moreno isn't good enough but that goal wasn't his fault.
Moreno isn't good enough but that goal wasn't his fault.
When he was at Dortmund, doubt people on here saw him regularly or noticed him a lot. He was chest thumping after Pool scored a goal in the first match of the season, it is way OTT.
I don't mind or care about him much but he is the kind of guy who will be loved if he is your manager but will rile up oppo fans.
Why? What has he done??
I always thought his personality matched Liverpool's. Both Dortmund and Liverpool have these emotional fan base, and they can immediately connect to his emotional bursts.
The 28 pass 3rd goal.
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