Jesus. "I'm right you're wrong " what are you ? About 12 years old ? In your head only.
Liverpool 2016/17 - Performance and chat thread.
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Liked Di Sciglio at Euros, looked very decent.
But I don't think you should sign him as this would automatically turn him to over-rated shite even before he's kicked a ball in an LFC shirt. This being the law relating to rival team signings at this stage of pre-season. I quite like the sound of Willems though.
But I don't think you should sign him as this would automatically turn him to over-rated shite even before he's kicked a ball in an LFC shirt. This being the law relating to rival team signings at this stage of pre-season. I quite like the sound of Willems though.
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They just lost 1-2 to Roma in the pre-season game.
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They really need Karius to come back asap
They really need Karius to come back asap
He's not very highly rated by Milan fans, who are happy to see the back of him.
Ha ha. That is indeed how it goes.
Not sure about Willems but I have to admit I just don't remember seeing him play, though resident our Dutch LFC fan (on another forum) thinks he's Moreno v2 (good going forward but defensively poor). I believe our defence just needs a FB who, first and foremost, can defend and is tactically aware. Anything else is a bonus.
He's #3 at the club, not sure they actually see that much of him but he was very impressive at the Euros - wasn't he in the LB slot in the Team of Tournament ? Maybe, maybe not, I forget.
I thought I'd read Di Sciglio was 2nd/3rd choice & then thought I must have imagined it. And they want rid of him? Well, that's amazing. Funny old game, innit.
Moreno is injured,
. But it's not serious, . (Did I get the emojis in the right place there?)
Some said 'hammy' but reports say Jurgen reckons 'dead leg' & 'is no problem' - so Alb will be back soon you'd think, <----
Moreno is injured,
. But it's not serious, . (Did I get the emojis in the right place there?)Some said 'hammy' but reports say Jurgen reckons 'dead leg' & 'is no problem' - so Alb will be back soon you'd think,
<---- You can check here, it's not that hard to find.
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/news/newsid=2389933.html
hint: he was not
Such a strong squad. Amazing depth in every position. No issues there at all (Image courtesy of ManhattanDoc on Twitter)
hilarious
Lovren - not good enough. Mignolet- not good enough. If it was up to me I would start a 79 year old Manninger in goal and pair Matip and our new estonian stalwart from the very first game of the season. If not this is going to be the third season us pool fans get tormented watching them two clown around. This isn't knee jerk either, Lovren in pre season has gone back to his form under Rodgers. All that's missing is doing fecking Cruyff turns in the centre circle.
Right up Kraftwerker's Street.
@Oga on top, will qualify this by saying I've seen very little of our pre-season (crap times), but I think it's harsh to write off Lovren. He maybe has looked as shit as he used to but I think he deserves a regular run alongside Matip to see how they can play together.
Pre-season means nothing.
He's been shaky the whole of the U.S tour, Bob. Obviously pre season is just for fitness and in all seriousness he should start against the gooners but I have a feeling he may perform well enough this season but he still has a mistake or four in him. Also him not being that sharp for pre season is concerning considering he wasn't in the Croatia squad. Next week can't come soon enough
real football is back.Milner's got us covered...
Looking back on the Rafa era, I never really did fully appreciate what a solid backline we had. Reina - Finnan/Arbeloa - Carra- Sami- Riise/Aurelio.
GK position should also read "Probably James Milner" at the bottom. He's gotta catch them all!
So, fellow reds, Sane was bought for £37m. We bought Mane for £34m. I know we're not going to get Sane, but this reminds me of that season when we got Andy Carroll for £35m and City got Agüero for £38m. Somehow we seem to get really shafted on transfers, don't we? xD
So, fellow reds, Sane was bought for £37m. We bought Mane for £34m. I know we're not going to get Sane, but this reminds me of that season when we got Andy Carroll for £35m and City got Agüero for £38m. Somehow we seem to get really shafted on transfers, don't we? xD
How can you say anything before a ball has even been kicked in the league?
As you say Sane would never have come to us anyway, with or without CL football. At least on the upside Mane is entering his prime whereas Sane is just potential right now. We can't afford £40 million gambles on youths. Sane is fecking rapid though so would have been nice to see him for us.
Weren't Can and Wijnaldum the two midfielders in the match against Roma? I didn't see a lot of it but I saw a few bits and pieces. Can playing in his first game too. I wouldn't be surprised if Lovren did look average, absolutely no midfield protection there
Aside from Mane, who I'd have taken here, it's difficult to get too worked up about the rest of their summer signings.
They need some defenders.
They need some defenders.
Prices are high, but Mane has premiership experience which counts for a lot. He adds genuine width and pace which we lack.
As for how it turns out, who knows with Sane and our Mane - a ball hasn't been kicked yet after all. Let's wait and see, and trust Klopp.
Well so far we have signed 2.
They need a LB and a quality CM. Aside from that I don't think their squad is too bad. But they have two pretty big holes I'd say.
Nail on the head. Moreno is such an easy target for opposing teams to exploit that it's no wonder our LCB looks foolish at times.
We have needed a decent left back for years. I just a have a feeling he isn't going to buy one - Chilwell was hardly going to be first choice and we haven't really been strongly linked with anyone else.
Klopp might just think unless he can get who he really wants he won't spend money on others.
So far he appears to have got the players he wanted, apart from Dahoud maybe, though whether he would have signed Klavan without Matip, Sakho and Gomez being injured I don't know.
Klopp might just think unless he can get who he really wants he won't spend money on others.
So far he appears to have got the players he wanted, apart from Dahoud maybe, though whether he would have signed Klavan without Matip, Sakho and Gomez being injured I don't know.
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Their back 5 bar Clyne is not good enough imo. Early to tell yet, but the new signings don't look like they'll propel them to top 4.
Good signings on Wjinaldum (not sure how you spell it) and & Mane if the former can maintain some consistency unlike his Newcastle stint.
Sturridge being fit is going to be key for them. How is Ings keeping I wonder? I reckon he'll surprise Klopp.
I'd say they need another striker if we assume that Benteke and Balotelli will leave. Seems unlikely that Sturridge can stay fit for any period of time and while Origi looked promising last year its a big ask for him or Ings to carry the attack all season.
I think they'll be fine with Sturridge, Origi and Ings. They can play Firmino up top if they had to as well
Wijnaldum mate.
Ings is back fully fit, whether he will be in the starting eleven remains to be seen.
The situations aren't comparable at all. Aguero was already a certified world class player when city signed him while carroll was a big guy who jumps high. In this situation, city and Pool have signed players who have the potential to be great players, but they both just have potential. Neither of them have proven themselves to be truly great players.
Because I'm a little frustrated and it was a bit knee-jerk, to be fair.
It would be! Sane is really exciting to watch. I think part of me feeling down is that it feels like such a big gamble. Our two biggest signings weren't consistent performers last season, and when they went missing they really went missing. So that's my worry there.
Yea, Moreno is great going forward, but going back he's really a liability at times, enough to cost us 6-9 points at least, not to mention cup finals. Oh wait, he already did help towards the latter.
I'm certainly not worried about the forward line provided no one picks up an serious injuries. The further back we go, the less happy I am.
That's true, thanks for pointing out the difference.
Fair enough, I wouldn't find it funny either if that was what we were going into the season with.
Quality banter. I'm in awe mate.
So, Sturridge is going to miss the Arsenal game. *sigh* I thought we'd be done with that by now.
Origi is more suited to our style of play now than him anyway. Sturridge is going to struggle to stay 1st choice.
He wouldn't have started anyway as he barely played in pre season. Origi is good enough to lead the line, but let's not praise him too much on here or we will be accused of being deluded scousers as per usual
Klopp has organised a very good squad, with lots of quality and cover in all positions.
Without the distraction of Europe he should do really well in the league and domestic cups - his season should be considered as a failure if he doesn't get to at least one final and get a top 3 position.
His only problem will be if he gets knocked out of any cups in the early rounds as he may run out of games to keep all his players happy.
But I hope teams wise up to his pressing style though I suspect most won't realise until it's too late. Barcelona played into their trap by pissing around with the ball at the back and were picked off with ease.
If teams figure out to combat it then I expect Klopp's teams to tire themselves out in games. But if teams continue to play at a pedestrian pace and take an age in getting the ball in front of their midfield then Liverpool will pressurise these teams in to making mistakes.
Without the distraction of Europe he should do really well in the league and domestic cups - his season should be considered as a failure if he doesn't get to at least one final and get a top 3 position.
His only problem will be if he gets knocked out of any cups in the early rounds as he may run out of games to keep all his players happy.
But I hope teams wise up to his pressing style though I suspect most won't realise until it's too late. Barcelona played into their trap by pissing around with the ball at the back and were picked off with ease.
If teams figure out to combat it then I expect Klopp's teams to tire themselves out in games. But if teams continue to play at a pedestrian pace and take an age in getting the ball in front of their midfield then Liverpool will pressurise these teams in to making mistakes.
I think Grujić is going to take the league by storm. 20 and 6ft 3" tall.
Liverpool will start the season really well due to their superior fitness. They've played a million friendlies.
Watch them burnout after Christmas and suffer an injury crisis at some point.
Liverpool will start the season really well due to their superior fitness. They've played a million friendlies.
Watch them burnout after Christmas and suffer an injury crisis at some point.
Interesting post,
It seems to me that we struggle with teams like Leicester who play the long ball over the top with pacy players like Vardy. We're much more happier with teams who play the possession game and we can press them high up. Basically the top teams and we did quite well against them last year.
I've been looking at the two draws against spurs last season. Both pressing, high intensity teams. That seemed to me much more tactically conservative from both sides compared to games against other top opposition. Almost like both managers really respected each other or they just cancelled each other out.
How do you think utd will set up against pool this season?