Life after ETH — the next United manager

If we sack ten Hag who would you want as manager?

  • Massimiliano Allegri

    Votes: 24 1.7%

  • Rúben Amorim

    Votes: 289 21.0%

  • Michael Carrick

    Votes: 33 2.4%

  • Roberto de Zerbi

    Votes: 18 1.3%

  • Thomas Frank

    Votes: 70 5.1%

  • Sebastian Hoeneß

    Votes: 59 4.3%

  • Eddie Howe

    Votes: 6 0.4%

  • Simone Inzaghi

    Votes: 66 4.8%

  • Andoni Iraola

    Votes: 36 2.6%

  • Thiago Motta

    Votes: 8 0.6%

  • Julian Nagelsmann

    Votes: 256 18.6%

  • Graham Potter

    Votes: 26 1.9%

  • Ruud van Nistelrooy

    Votes: 30 2.2%

  • Marco Silva

    Votes: 8 0.6%

  • Xabi Alonso

    Votes: 217 15.8%

  • Xavi

    Votes: 58 4.2%

  • Kieran McKenna

    Votes: 81 5.9%

  • Unai Emery

    Votes: 90 6.5%

  • Fabian Hürzeler

    Votes: 1 0.1%
  • Total voters
    1,376
I was excited with the prospect of Tuchel managing us but mostly because he wasn’t ETH and has a clue about what he wants from his teams.

However i never enjoyed the football he delivered so not too fussed about him taking over the English NT.
 
TheBigLewandowski said:
I agree with you, but we all wanted Ten Hag before because he was exactly that - seemingly making Ajax big again.

Sporting Lisbon arguably has much less quality of players than Ajax did who are arguably a sleeping giant with one of the best youth systems of the world.

We were all happy signing Ten Hag -

Now who is the next candidates that will make us all happy?

The next Ten Hag up & coming managers are Xabi Alonso ; Ruben Amorim who have made their clubs big. Maybe Simeone fits this bracket but he is someone who looks very loyal to Athletico Madrid and is not really an up and coming manager.

Some managers who have already managed bigger clubs are managers like Zidane, Nagelsmann & Tuchel.

II think it's between those 5 who we get - with the short possibility we go for Mckenna or Carrick as our next British manager.
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No he wasn’t exactly that because ten hag did well in Europe though, at least far better than Amorim in Europe. Ten hag’s Ajax beat his sporting side 4-2 and 5-1.
 
Would've voted for tuchel, but since he's out Id've liked to see what inzaghi could do outside of Italy
 
The realisation starting to set in that INEOS view Southgate as the heir apparent.

I fully expect Ten Hag to join City when Pep leaves too by the way. Then we'll see how shite he truly is :smirk:
 
I’m raging we’ve let the opportunity of bringing in Tuchel slip, especially if we go and sack ETH after the Brentford game. Has to be Amorim now for me.
 
ShinjiNinja26 said:
I’m raging we’ve let the opportunity of bringing in Tuchel slip, especially if we go and sack ETH after the Brentford game. Has to be Amorim now for me.
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With the Sporting Director going to City next season, it’s written in my eyes that they’ll get Amorim post-Pep.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
With the Sporting Director going to City next season, it’s written in my eyes that they’ll get Amorim post-Pep.
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That’s why I hope we can steal a march on them and try to bring him in now. INEOS seems determined to drag this out for some reason though, just seems pointless and its only delaying the inevitable.
 
Any chance we can get a cleaned up, more meaningful poll by the way? @Red Star One

Between them, Alonso, Nagelsmann and Tuchel take up almost half of the votes and they are all three not feasible as options. Let's get a poll with options that are actually relevant, to get a result of significance.
 
Just as I was warming to Tuchel!

He was our safety option. Now I don't see any desirable candidate as our next manager. Forget about Alonso; there's no way he would come to United.
 
LordSpud said:
The realisation starting to set in that INEOS view Southgate as the heir apparent.

I fully expect Ten Hag to join City when Pep leaves too by the way. Then we'll see how shite he truly is :smirk:
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:lol: They will go nowhere near him. That's just a delusion that has been peddled by ten Hag fans (the few that are left).

I would love that to happen but it's not realistic in the slightest.
 
TheBigLewandowski said:
but we all wanted Ten Hag
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TheBigLewandowski said:
We were all happy signing Ten Hag
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Easy there.

How many managers have looked great for Ajax, then moved to Premier League and did great there as well?
LvG and Koeman had good careers as managers, but did they ever look that good in the PL?

Frank de Boer won 4 league titles with Ajax, tried his luck in Premier League with Crystal Palace, was kicked out after only 4 games. Have done nothing of note since.
Maybe i am mostly traumatized after LvGs most depressing time here with us, but feeling is that their philosophy and way of coaching doesn`t translate well to the PL for whatever reason.
 
Please let the German national team go to shit so Nagelsmann becomes available.

The two managers I would want are Nagelsmann or Inzaghi. Both are proven enough, and have the right character for this club. They both still seem to be on an upwards trajectory at this point of their careers.

Amorim is the only hipster manager I would want. Mainly because I think his character/personality and playstyle will translate to the premier league.
 
Redivy said:
Please let the German national team go to shit so Nagelsmann becomes available.
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Very unlikely. He now is a year in the job and has massively improved results, style of play and also the pool of potential players. Lots of first choice players were inavailable now and the team just kept on playing as if they all were playing together in this way for years.

All that looks very stable now and not like it will go to shit.
 
stefan92 said:
Very unlikely. He now is a year in the job and has massively improved results, style of play and also the pool of potential players. Lots of first choice players were inavailable now and the team just kept on playing as if they all were playing together in this way for years.

All that looks very stable now and not like it will go to shit.
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I have Germany as my early favorites for the 26 World Cup. I wish we could have Nagelsmann here.
 
stefan92 said:
He now is a year in the job and has massively improved results, style of play and also the pool of potential players. All that looks very stable now and not like it will go to shit.
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:lol:

And in the unlikely event it does go badly, Nagelsmann is still not going to join Utd. Why jump out of a frying pan into a fire? It'll be career suicide for someone trying to rebuild their career to join an unstable club like Utd.
 
Imagine how incredible it would be to persist with an entire season of ETH to then hire Southgate in the summer :lol:
 
Cloud7 said:
Imagine how incredible it would be to persist with an entire season of ETH to then hire Southgate in the summer :lol:
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Given that they caved to fan pressure to keep Ten Hag I doubt they'll appoint Southgate.

Southgate's ability aside no manager can succeed when everyone is against him from the start. It would be a bit like Moyes all over again.
 
Think I predicted Tuchel would be next England manager in July on here so let's have a go at solving this formula..:lol:

Can see Man. United drawing with Brentford and then losing at West Ham so I can't see how ETH would survive that.

New manager needed then during November international break if Van Nistelrooy gets a game or two.

In the summer confirmed as interviewed were Tuchel (England), De Zerbi (Marseille), Frank (Brentford) and Marco Silva (Fulham). Southgate's name also thrown hilariously into the mix but he's just said he isn't managing again this season.

Last time there was a vacancy (albeit under a different board structure) all of Pochettino, Ten Hag, Lopetegui and Luis Enrique interviewed. Three of those currently in jobs.

Unless someone left field emerges then my gut instinct is Thomas Frank is the Man. United manager at some point in next two months. Seems to be rated in the boardroom at Old Trafford and Brentford are comfortably mid table so would be leaving them in a good place. Silva really struggled at Everton near the end so he'd be a more risky pick from mid table club of the two even though he's done a really good job at Fulham.
 
If the plan sincerely is to have Ten Hag see out his contract only to hire Southgate in the summer, then I'll curse the fact we didn't leave Ashworth in his garden.

Hopefully they're a bit more ambitious than that.
 
Tuchel wasn’t the right choice. Yes we’d surely massively improve but we could get Noel Edmonds in and he’d be better than ETH. The potential of the club is to be the best team in the country and we’re miles off that, so we need a manager who can build us there.

Tuchel would’ve been another finish top 3 at best false hope before a massive crash. I know that doesn’t sound that bad given we’ve been in midtable form for 18 months, but still, have to think long term.
 
Offside said:
Tuchel wasn’t the right choice. Yes we’d surely massively improve but we could get Noel Edmonds in and he’d be better than ETH. The potential of the club is to be the best team in the country and we’re miles off that, so we need a manager who can build us there.

Tuchel would’ve been another finish top 3 at best false hope before a massive crash. I know that doesn’t sound that bad given we’ve been in midtable form for 18 months, but still, have to think long term.
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Yes. Exactly this. We need somebody who actually properly take us forward.
 
UnofficialDevil said:
Why no Zidane in the poll?
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Zidane was specifically asked about managing Utd a few years ago by some journalist (before we hired ETH) and he said he had no interest in managing in a country he doesn't speak the language. So unless he's been taking serious English lessons in the meantime, he's not going to take it now.

In saying that, the poll really does need to be redone as the top three choices (Alonso, Tuchel and Nagelsmann) clearly won't be happening but have over half the votes.
 
Offside said:
Tuchel wasn’t the right choice. Yes we’d surely massively improve but we could get Noel Edmonds in and he’d be better than ETH. The potential of the club is to be the best team in the country and we’re miles off that, so we need a manager who can build us there.

Tuchel would’ve been another finish top 3 at best false hope before a massive crash. I know that doesn’t sound that bad given we’ve been in midtable form for 18 months, but still, have to think long term.
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But the worst thing is that the long term is having years outside the UCL while you wait for a supposed “long-term” coach. Tuchel could get us fourth this year and probably do at least the season after that. We would be a properly set up team, and if the relationship went south, we'd be in a position of strength getting the next guy in.

More than winning the league, the most important thing for us is getting consecutive UCL places, not one season and out. Once we're able to do that, we can talk about winning the league.

Tuchel now is better than writing another season off. He’s got a difficult personality, but tactically, he is on another planet to EtH. He's in the Pep/Arteta league.
 
In Absentia said:
But the worst thing is that the long term is having years outside the UCL while you wait for a supposed “long-term” coach. Tuchel could get us fourth this year and probably do at least the season after that. We would be a properly set up team, and if the relationship went south, we'd be in a position of strength getting the next guy in.

More than winning the league, the most important thing for us is getting consecutive UCL places, not one season and out. Once we're able to do that, we can talk about winning the league.

Tuchel now is better than writing another season off. He’s got a difficult personality, but tactically, he is on another planet to EtH. He's in the Pep/Arteta league.
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That's the thing. We need to forget about the title aspirations at the moment. Things can change quickly in football but the longer we keep him in the job, the more damage it does and the further we fall behind the top six.

One season of 8th can be written off as a poor season for this club. Two seasons of 8th or worse and it starts to become more of a habit,. You then you become even more under pressure to get the next appointment right, which also becomes even more difficult if you've waited so long that there aren't any outstanding candidates left. That's why we can't afford to waste another season and absolutely need to sack him soon if these results don't improve.
 
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In Absentia said:
But the worst thing is that the long term is having years outside the UCL while you wait for a supposed “long-term” coach. Tuchel could get us fourth this year and probably do at least the season after that. We would be a properly set up team, and if the relationship went south, we'd be in a position of strength getting the next guy in.

More than winning the league, the most important thing for us is getting consecutive UCL places, not one season and out. Once we're able to do that, we can talk about winning the league.
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You know full well the relationship going south means a disaster 6th placed finish with mutiny in the squad and a flurry of flop signings. Not being in a position of strength for the next guy.

The second point is laughable. How is this the most important thing? We’ve literally not spent more than a single consecutive year outside the top 4 and look where that’s got us. Meanwhile Liverpool and Arsenal have both spent 6+ years in a row outside the top 4 in recent years and come roaring back challenging for the league. We need to break this cycle of mediocrity, which inevitably means short term pain.
 
doubleohseven said:
Not sure if Ineos had him as a long-term solution.

You are right. He was easily the best candidate, but Ineos clearly want a 'building' coach.
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It is highly unlikely that we'll get a manager who will stay here for 5+ years and be successful, in 2024.
In the last decade, we tend to let the manager go after around 2.5 years, so that is my expectation from now on.
The situation of a successful manager staying long term, in this day and age is scarce.
 
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