It looks clear to me that unless some miracle happens, ETH is doomed. The problem is who would replace him on the interim basis. Many managers won't leave their job to join us and quite frankly RVN doesn't inspire me with confidence either. Maybe a free agent might consider the job as an interim. Graham Potter won't aim for the job as long as his got the chance of becoming England's manager. Which leaves us with slimmer pickings. Sarri might do the trick, he's got EPL experience and he's a solid manager. Sérgio Conceição isn't a bad shout either, there's Xavi and former Nice manager Favre
Life after ETH — the next United manager
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I don’t think Xavi has the experience to turn the ship around. It needs to be a Tuchel or equivalent.
Tbh so did Ancelotti to an extent.
He had them 10th, and they’ve been on the verge of going down ever since. You can put lipstick on a pig etc.
My gut feeling is that United's next manager will be English and he'll be joining us in the summer.
I think he might be Northern Irish
So did Ancelotti
There’s no chance stuttgarts manager turns us down surely
He also rejected Bayern in the summer if I recall correctly
We need to approach hiring managers a little different I think. Instead of straight up looking for a guy who can be at the club long term and delivering league titles we should be getting someone who can consistently get us into CL places. Then we re-assess him and see if we can get someone who can get us to win the league titles.
We've fallen so low that expecting someone to come in a deliver a league titles (and I've not even mentioned the CL ffs) is kind of unrealistic.
We've fallen so low that expecting someone to come in a deliver a league titles (and I've not even mentioned the CL ffs) is kind of unrealistic.
I am not sure what 'approach' means in that context, but it is good if we are in contact with someone like Hoeness.
I don't think he'd have been ready last summer and apparently everyone involved thought the same. But he is a very promising manager.
I don't think he'd have been ready last summer and apparently everyone involved thought the same. But he is a very promising manager.
Reasonably, but not beyond doubt.
However it fits the picture Hoeneß generally has created that he likes to continue his journey at Stuttgart to develop himself.
Which also ties into this:
He wants CL experience. Stuttgart offers him that, United doesn't this season.
No he didn't considering it's Everton and the resources they have?
Not really. He has a long career ahead of him but there's only one time he's going to be at Stuttgart with this squad in the CL, Xabi Alonso did the same thing. Actually points well to them - they believe in their ability to get top jobs in the future.
Consistency of finishing top 4 over two seasons is not consistency, especially when the next sample if Ole had stayed on would have been way out of top 4.
If Ten Hag had us win 2 games in a row, would you refuse to sack him because he consistently won 2? Such a strange remark.
Ouch. Fair enough
surely Tuchel isn’t getting a better gig? Unless he’s really enjoying unemployment, then the dithering must be coming from our side
Alonso, Motta, Nagelsmann and Inzaghi seem unlikely. With that in mind, I'd prefer Amorim, Iraola or Hoeneß.
Everyone rejected Bayern last summer
Yes, just that he is not anybody when it is about Bayern. His father played for Bayern and is agent of atleast two of their homegrown players (Stanisic and Pavlovic), his brother works there - and he has been the coach of their second team and got them to be champion in league 3. We aren't even talking about uncle or cousins.
But Bayern was too early for him - so is Manchester United.
I think on here we are always looking for the man rather than defining the required skills.
The who rather than the what
Still looking for the Messiah
Still looking for the short term
The who rather than the what
Still looking for the Messiah
Still looking for the short term
I guess that there's a good chance Amorim follows Hugo Viana to City next summer (if Guardiola doesn't sign a new deal before then, obviously).
I don't think United can afford to write-off UCL qualification this season, so if they sack Ten Hag during next month's international break (as I'm expecting), I think they'll approach Tuchel, as he would probably make a bigger short-term impact than the other candidates who are currently available. The likes of Iraola or Hoeneß surely only come in to play next summer.
voted Xavi, but meant Xavi Alonso!
Edin Terzic is being touted by The Sun - couldn't bring myself to read the rag to find out if there was a quote or any evidence or if they'd just drawn his name out of a hat
Oh please no...
If one person embodies how Dortmund as a club misunderstood how football works in recent years, than it is him.
Not sure where the Stuttgart 'journey' ends.
Likely, at best, third place behind Bayern and the red bull franchise. Best players being sought by the big dogs. It gradually all going to pot.
I'd strongly advise him to steer clear of United. It could utterly decimate him.
You make it sound as if Leipzig were the established "second force" in Germany. They are not (yet).
Would be a very bad choice, IMO. Terzic is a bit like the Dortmund version of Solskjaer. He's genuinely likeable but doesn't stand for a certain way of playing football and was criticized by his players for having not enough clue about tactics.
I think the idea to not aim for the stars immediately is a decent one but Terzic would be a step back, not forward.
Haven‘t watched a single minute since the Liverpool 0-3 and besides one exception I was right. The man sucks out all joy of following this beautiful football team. Every day of not sacking him just means falling behind further.
Yeah I really don't know much about him but all I read on the Caf and I'll I have heard from my BVB supporting friends is he's a bit shit and not the standard required.
He did? Could have fooled me
Who has succeeded there ?
A lot of managers have reportedly declined being our manager. How the mighty has fallen....
Running scared of the top job.
Lack of belief in themselves to turn a sleeping giant into winners.
Since you seem to be looking at German coaches, what about Roger Schmidt? Not as good as Hoeneß, IMO, but a much better choice than Terzic, free agent and he also has experience with coaching a club with a huge international fanbase in Benfica. Probably the most extreme pressing I've seen to this day.
Hardly that surprising.
New owners, upheaval at all levels above the manager, reduced authority for the manager on spending, no CL football this year, and the calibre of manager we'd want are the sort of managers who know they may well get offers from other top clubs if they wait.
Also not particularly new. We know at a minimum that both Klopp and Ancelotti spoke to Ferguson about succeeding him but weren't interested. Ancelotti because he was focused on the Madrid job and Klopp because he wanted to stay at Dortmund.
It's also not unique to us. Teams like Liverpool, Chelsea and Bayern saw the same reports of being turned down by managers just this summer.