[criticalanalysis]

Very promising. I've been meaning to say this for a while but I don't get where the automatic 'he's fast/rapid' shouts come from. He's got great length and when in motion has good speed but he doesn't look like he has a turn of acceleration/first step as of now. I think we've seen a few times where he's been caught a bit lacking on runs or when getting touch tight. Even in the highlight videos from last season in France, I never thought 'he's really fast'. Having said that, I think he has got a lot of athletic potential and can grow in a stronger/faster body; he is literally still in a teenager's body. He's not slow but far from Amad/Garnacho acceleration or Dalot/Hojlund type speed. It's somewhere in the middle for me based on the very low sample size.

 

[FrankWhite]

Very promising. I've been meaning to say this for a while but I don't get where the automatic 'he's fast/rapid' shouts come from. He's got great length and when in motion has good speed but he doesn't look like he has a turn of acceleration/first step as of now. I think we've seen a few times where he's been caught a bit lacking on runs or when getting touch tight. Even in the highlight videos from last season in France, I never thought 'he's really fast'. Having said that, I think he has got a lot of athletic potential and can grow in a stronger/faster body; he is literally still in a teenager's body. He's not slow but far from Amad/Garnacho acceleration or Dalot/Hojlund type speed. It's somewhere in the middle for me based on the very low sample size.

He hasn't got quickness but he's fast enough and moves well enough to be our cover CB. Compare him to other well known fast CBs like Varane, VVD and Rio. Is he slower than them? Also, because of his long limbs, he eats up ground deceptively quickly too.
Still young and inexperienced so will make mistakes. His long passing will needs to be addressed, either he improves them significantly or he sticks to his limits.

 

[Alemar]

Clearly very talented but still seems to jave things to learn defensively

It would be upsetting if our 18 year old player didn’t have any room left for improvement
Garnacho, for instance, is 2 years older…

It is absolutely clear that Yoro is - at the very least - good enough to be a part of first team rotation

 

[Bondi77]

He hasn't got quickness but he's fast enough and moves well enough to be our cover CB. Compare him to other well known fast CBs like Varane, VVD and Rio. Is he slower than them? Also, because of his long limbs, he eats up ground deceptively quickly too.
Still young and inexperienced so will make mistakes. His long passing will needs to be addressed, either he improves them significantly or he sticks to his limits.

He hasn't got quickness?
What does that mean

 

[MaMa given red]

22 league games to go and we are only 6 points behind 4th place team. League is not written off.

We are also in 13th place and on course to get less than 50 points this season!

Last season we were 8th and we have regressed. We also have a new manager and system to get used to.

This season is very clearly one of transition.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

We are also in 13th place and on course to get less than 50 points this season!

Last season we were 8th and we have regressed. We also have a new manager and system to get used to.

This season is very clearly one of transition.

If its a transition season, why send him on loan?

 

[Posh Red]

I was sat behind the bench at city. He is a massive bastard. Has great coordination and balance for a guy his size. He’s gonna end up as a brilliant player, if things go to plan.

 

[dubplate warrior]

Very promising. I've been meaning to say this for a while but I don't get where the automatic 'he's fast/rapid' shouts come from. He's got great length and when in motion has good speed but he doesn't look like he has a turn of acceleration/first step as of now. I think we've seen a few times where he's been caught a bit lacking on runs or when getting touch tight. Even in the highlight videos from last season in France, I never thought 'he's really fast'. Having said that, I think he has got a lot of athletic potential and can grow in a stronger/faster body; he is literally still in a teenager's body. He's not slow but far from Amad/Garnacho acceleration or Dalot/Hojlund type speed. It's somewhere in the middle for me based on the very low sample size.

Over a long distance he's quick as feck.

Works well if you're playing a high line.

 

[dubplate warrior]

We are also in 13th place and on course to get less than 50 points this season!

Last season we were 8th and we have regressed. We also have a new manager and system to get used to.

This season is very clearly one of transition.

It takes one winning run and the league will change on its head. It's a weird league this year.

 

[roonster09]

We are also in 13th place and on course to get less than 50 points this season!

Last season we were 8th and we have regressed. We also have a new manager and system to get used to.

This season is very clearly one of transition.

We have already shown big improvement in the performance.

No way season is a written off, especially with such a small gap between 4th and our position.

Also at this point of the season, league position doesn't matter. Things change very quickly.

 

[Rozay]

So typical of the spineless caf. Year after year half the board declare the season over a third of the way through after a couple of losses. Straighten your fecking backs and get in the fight, none of this weak ass ‘scared to be hurt’ stuff people keep posting. How can you give up on the CL 6 points away from 4th?

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Do people believe he's better suited playing on the right side of a back three or as the central defender? Personally, while he has performed admirably in wide positions, I’d like to see him take a central role. However, if I were to critique him, despite his height, he doesn't seem particularly dominant in aerial duels.

 

[Crimson King]

Do people believe he's better suited playing on the right side of a back three or as the central defender? Personally, while he has performed admirably in wide positions, I’d like to see him take a central role. However, if I were to critique him, despite his height, he doesn't seem particularly dominant in aerial duels.

Being in the centre would be a waste of his athleticism and ability to cover a wide area. Not saying it won't ever happen, but we have other players better suited to the centre role at the moment.

 

[top1whoisman]

 

[A-man]

He has some flaws, but already at this young age he is good enough to have earned his spot in the starting XI. With more matches he will get more adapted to the league and develop the skills he’s lacking, and probably also become more adventurous on the ball. As for now he is smart to keep it simple. If United coaching staff can give him what he needs, he’ll be one of the top PL CBs in the near future.

 

[dutchred]

Future Back 3
Leny De Ligt Kukoni

 

[Litch]

I'm sure more is to come and injury slowed down him getting acclimatised to the team, league etc. Couldn't have helped with the amount of upheaval at the club during this time too...

 

[Idxomer]

Mazraoui made a huge mistake but Yoro should've helped him when he got isolated.

 

[Thom Merrilin]

Don't know what you were watching. Was easily our best CB last night.

Easily the most ridiculous take I’ve heard in here for a while.

Spotted another one whose ball knowledge I will utterly ignore.

So you all think he's currently ready for first team football in this system against premier league opposition? Fair enough, I hope I'm wrong but I'm not seeing it quite yet. He was poor again today in those areas I mentioned but again, I don't want to be too harsh on such a young defender.

 

[Sylar]

Mazraoui made a huge mistake but Yoro should've helped him when he got isolated.

Wasn't he behind Maz? I kinda remember yoro being there waving a no to the ref, which made me think the mistake by maz was even bigger.

 

[DWelbz19]

Mazraoui made a huge mistake but Yoro should've helped him when he got isolated.

Yoro was covering. It was braindead from Mazraoui.

 

[Baneofthegame]

Mazraoui made a huge mistake but Yoro should've helped him when he got isolated.

He was right there to assist him if he doesn’t decide to just dive in.

 

[Idxomer]

He was right there to assist him if he doesn’t decide to just dive in.

He looked hesitant about whether to get involved or stay with his man. He kinda ended up doing neither at the end and Kluivert would've had a couple of good options if Mazraoui didn't dive in. Tbf, I don't think the hesitation was entirely his fault because it didn't seem that someone else was going to cover the cut back.

 

[criticalanalysis]

He looked hesitant about whether to get involved or stay with his man. He kinda ended up doing neither at the end and Kluivert would've had a couple of good options if Mazraoui didn't dive in. Tbf, I don't think the hesitation was entirely his fault because it didn't seem that someone else was going to cover the cut back.

No, Yoro was in a good position before and after the tackle:



You may be misremembering the situation because a similar thing happened against Spurs for their second goal where Yoro was indecisive/caught on his heels and didn't cover Mazraoui.

In this game Mazraoui had already got goal side of the player and was in a good position so the desperate tackle was a massive mistake.

 

[Shaw's Shank Redemption]

@Thom Merrilin
@Idxomer

Im glad im not the only one who is seeing that he hasnt been great.

For me, nearly every time he comes on the pitch we let in a goal that heavily contributed on the right hand side of the pitch even if its finished centrally.

He seems like he plays like a bit like the defensive version of Hojlund where he is 2 seconds behind the tempo of the defensive play needed.

For the Mazroui foul, Yoro was inviting the pressure on to Mazroui to deal with the man by himself when he as the most wide central defender should have provided him support rather than moving more centrally which led Mazroui move deeper and deeper until he let in a foul.

This is why many people including me could see that Mazroui was going to make a penalty foul before he actually made the tackle because Yoro was drawing the pressure in for Mazroui to deal with a player directly by himself rather than providing support. Remember that Mazroui is supposed to be positioned as a RWB in this system - so the position the tackle is supposed to be made should be heavily influenced by the RCB atleast through his positioning. Him being behind Mazroui is always going to happen, but what should have happened is Yoro going in to provide support for Mazroui so our RWB isnt going to deal with the attacker by himself.

The 3rd goal was started by a loss of play by Mainoo but was heavily influenced again by the right hand side of the pitch. I dont even need to talk about that goal because his hesitance on making a tackle and being 2 seconds behind the play can easily be seen.

If he wasnt touted as this french wonderkid we bought from Real Madrid's hands then i think peoples perception of him would be more balanced.

All i've seen so far is a few decent passes and nothing much else so far.

 

[Escobar]

@Thom Merrilin
@Idxomer

Im glad im not the only one who is seeing that he hasnt been great.

For me, nearly every time he comes on the pitch we let in a goal that heavily contributed on the right hand side of the pitch even if its finished centrally.

He seems like he plays like a bit like the defensive version of Hojlund where he is 2 seconds behind the tempo of the defensive play needed.

For the Mazroui foul, Yoro was inviting the pressure on to Mazroui to deal with the man by himself when he as the most wide central defender should have provided him support rather than moving more centrally which led Mazroui move deeper and deeper until he let in a foul.

This is why many people including me could see that Mazroui was going to make a penalty foul before he actually made the tackle because Yoro was drawing the pressure in for Mazroui to deal with a player directly by himself rather than providing support. Remember that Mazroui is supposed to be positioned as a RWB in this system - so the position the tackle a tackle is supposed to be made should be heavily influenced by the RCB atleast through his positioning.

The 3rd goal was started by Mainoo but was heavily influenced again by the right hand side of the pitch. I dont even need to talk about that goal because his hesitance on making a tackle and being 2 seconds behind the play can easily be seen.

If he wasnt touted as this french wonderkid we bought from Real Madrid's hands then i think peoples perception of him would be more balanced.

All i've seen so far is a few decent passes and nothing much else so far.

No one doubles if you have other players in the box and if defense is not sorted. It was a really stupid action by Maz, only him to blame.

 

[Shaw's Shank Redemption]

No one doubles if you have other players in the box and if defense is not sorted. It was a really stupid action by Maz, only him to blame.

Mazroui was a RWB in this system, not a fullback. The RCB is called a RCB because he should be playing and covering the right channel from coming inside but you can clearly see that Yoro is playing as a CB (not a RCB) waiting for the ball to be crossed in so he can make a clearence centrally which is not what is needed from a RCB when you are playing 3 CB's on the pitch and a wing back on the opposite side.

Having 4 defenders in the box trying to deal with a cross or a dribble on Mazroui a RWB is just hesitation and stupid imo.

De ligt wouldnt be centrally there waiting for a cut back - De Ligt at RCB would be providing positional support to Mazroui so he wouldnt need to dive in to a tackle as a RWB.

If Mazroui didnt tackle at that point, the bournmouth player would have had a free shot on goal or a pass which shows why Mazroui went for the tackle in the first place by how little he was supported by Yoro. Yoro was inviting pressure for our RWB to defensively manage the winger all by himself.

 

[Escobar]

Mazroui was a RWB in this system, not a fullback. The RCB is called a RCB because he should be playing and covering the right channel from coming inside but you can clearly see that Yoro is playing as a CB (not a RCB) waiting for the ball to be crossed in so he can make a clearence centrally which is not what is needed from a RCB when you are playing 3 CB's on the pitch and a wing back on the opposite side.

Having 4 defenders in the box trying to deal with a cross or a dribble on Mazroui a RWB is just hesitation and stupid imo.

De ligt wouldnt be centrally there waiting for a cut back - De Ligt at RCB would be providing positional support to Mazroui so he wouldnt need to dive in to a tackle as a RWB.

If Mazroui didnt tackle at that point, the bournmouth player would have had a free shot on goal or a pass which shows why Mazroui went for the tackle in the first place by how little he was supported by Yoro. Yoro was inviting pressure for our RWB to defensively manage the winger all by himself.

He was covering Kluivert from the beginning, as he came from the wing. Of course that's the RWB's job. To do a last ditch tackle in that position (especially when coming from behind and being slower) is in so many cases a penalty. Only one player to blame here.

 

[Lentwood]

There's an absolute boatload of talent there but he's raw and looks a bit "rabbit in the headlights" at times.

I felt he was at fault for the third goal. Wasn't alive enough to close off the pass quickly enough and once the Bournemouth player was in behind its always going to end in a big chance.

Remember it took a while after Arsenal signed Saliba before they felt confident throwing him into PL games.

 

[Thom Merrilin]

@Thom Merrilin
@Idxomer

Im glad im not the only one who is seeing that he hasnt been great.

For me, nearly every time he comes on the pitch we let in a goal that heavily contributed on the right hand side of the pitch even if its finished centrally.

He seems like he plays like a bit like the defensive version of Hojlund where he is 2 seconds behind the tempo of the defensive play needed.

For the Mazroui foul, Yoro was inviting the pressure on to Mazroui to deal with the man by himself when he as the most wide central defender should have provided him support rather than moving more centrally which led Mazroui move deeper and deeper until he let in a foul.

This is why many people including me could see that Mazroui was going to make a penalty foul before he actually made the tackle because Yoro was drawing the pressure in for Mazroui to deal with a player directly by himself rather than providing support. Remember that Mazroui is supposed to be positioned as a RWB in this system - so the position the tackle is supposed to be made should be heavily influenced by the RCB atleast through his positioning. Him being behind Mazroui is always going to happen, but what should have happened is Yoro going in to provide support for Mazroui so our RWB isnt going to deal with the attacker by himself.

The 3rd goal was started by a loss of play by Mainoo but was heavily influenced again by the right hand side of the pitch. I dont even need to talk about that goal because his hesitance on making a tackle and being 2 seconds behind the play can easily be seen.

If he wasnt touted as this french wonderkid we bought from Real Madrid's hands then i think peoples perception of him would be more balanced.

All i've seen so far is a few decent passes and nothing much else so far.

He hasn't been great, but how many teenagers have? He has a bit more to learn before playing regularly in the league.

 

[Bastian]

There's an absolute boatload of talent there but he's raw and looks a bit "rabbit in the headlights" at times.

I felt he was at fault for the third goal. Wasn't alive enough to close off the pass quickly enough and once the Bournemouth player was in behind its always going to end in a big chance.

Remember it took a while after Arsenal signed Saliba before they felt confident throwing him into PL games.

Didn't he go out on loan at least twice before they decided they'd actually keep him?

 

[Lentwood]

Didn't he go out on loan at least twice before they decided they'd actually keep him?

Something like that. CBs develop differently from other positions don't they...18 is young for a CF or winger...its very young for a CM...and for a CB or GK...it's basically unheard of for a player that age to be "elite"

 

[Bondi77]

Only a matter of time before this guy comes good.

 

[Marwood]

Only a matter of time before this guy comes good.

But realistically that's about 4 years away. Sounds ages away unless he's incredibly special but that's the reality.

 

[Bondi77]

But realistically that's about 4 years away. Sounds ages away unless he's incredibly special but that's the reality.

No it is not.
The young man was strong in the French league before he came to us and he is still getting up to speed after an operation.
He will be a starter by March.

 

[Marwood]

No it is not.
The young man was strong in the French league before he came to us and he is still getting up to speed after an operation.
He will be a starter by March.

He might end up being a starter because of a lack of options but there we go again making the same mistakes.

19 year olds shouldn't be starting at CB for United. Asking for trouble.

We should have three CB's in their prime years. Yoro coming in and out of the team to get that experience.

Look at any of our best teams. You need guys who are fully established at CB.

 

[Smores]

He might end up being a starter because of a lack of options but there we go again making the same mistakes.

19 year olds shouldn't be starting at CB for United. Asking for trouble.

We should have three CB's in their prime years. Yoro coming in and out of the team to get that experience.

Look at any of our best teams. You need guys who are fully established at CB.

Agreed it's unfair on the lad as he'll be judged as a starter by fans and receive disproportionate criticism accordingly. He should be nothing more than a rotation option at this point to protect him.

Hopefully he settles quickly in which case you play him but he shouldn't get constant game time if he doesn't.

 

[Paul778]

He might end up being a starter because of a lack of options but there we go again making the same mistakes.

19 year olds shouldn't be starting at CB for United. Asking for trouble.

We should have three CB's in their prime years. Yoro coming in and out of the team to get that experience.

Look at any of our best teams. You need guys who are fully established at CB.

You don't steal him from under Real Madrids nose by telling him he can play with the reserves.

 

[Marwood]

Laughable. You don't steal him from under Real Madrids nose by telling him he can play with the reserves.

Complete invention on your part.

 

[Bondi77]

He might end up being a starter because of a lack of options but there we go again making the same mistakes.

19 year olds shouldn't be starting at CB for United. Asking for trouble.

We should have three CB's in their prime years. Yoro coming in and out of the team to get that experience.

Look at any of our best teams. You need guys who are fully established at CB.

The guy is a talent and the talented ones make their mark early.
We play him with mature defenders and we have enough of them at the club already.
We paid big money for him and part of that was down to We think he was ready for first team football just like when we have blooded other teenagers in our history.