Kylian Mbappé | Player Performance Thread

El-Manos said:
Another martial ?:lol::lol: He was our best player last season, some people need to get their memory checked. Still one of the most exciting young players in the world for feck sake.
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Cough cough De Gea was player of the year and our best player by far. I guess you're one of those people as well :lol:

For what it's worth Adnan had an outstanding season once, seems like a lifetime ago....
 
El-Manos said:
Another martial ?:lol::lol: He was our best player last season, some people need to get their memory checked. Still one of the most exciting young players in the world for feck sake.
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The point isn't that Martial isn't a good player. It's that he's not getting regular playing time which is obviously going to hinder his development.
 
dichinero said:
You just know it. That place will be a far more attractive proposition than United.
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Nah Monaco is about that money. They won´t sell below €80M and that is out of Dortmund´s reach. I also have a sneaky feeling Aubameyang will stay as long as the money is right. I think he wanted to leave, cause they were struggling in the league. They lost Gundogan, Hummels and Mkhitaryan and he was thinking it´s all falling apart. Now they are back in the CL spots in the league, CL quarterfinal, German Cup semifinal and turns out the youngsters Dembele, Guerreiro, Pulisic and Weigl are alright.
 
Red_toad said:
Cough cough De Gea was player of the year and our best player by far. I guess you're one of those people as well :lol:

For what it's worth Adnan had an outstanding season once, seems like a lifetime ago....
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So our best outfield player then? He single handedly dragged our attack last season and we just missed out on top 4. He deserves credit for that.


Did Adnan score 17 goals btw?
 
Mbappe, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba duba
Ba du, yeaah

Anyone else?

Anyway.. You'd have to think our French connection will give us a bit of an edge, but I'm convinced Jose will spend big only on established players. I think we already have too many "promising youngsters" for his liking. I really think it would be best for him to stay at Monaco for another year.
 
Terminator said:
So our best outfield player then? He single handedly dragged our attack last season and we just missed out on top 4. He deserves credit for that.


Did Adnan score 17 goals btw?
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Not sure where it was mentioned about goal tally? was talking about performances and 2 very different players. Not taking away credit from Martial, but he still has a lot to prove. Look at Ronaldo, he just got better and better, some players lack that desire to improve and dedication. One exceptional season does not mean players have made the grade.
 
Celestiale said:
Did Gomis or Falcao shoot 17 goals in the PL?
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The point I'm making is Martial's contribution was significant and played a huge and direct role in whatever we achieved last season more so than Adnan did.

Cant believe some people are downplaying Martial's efforts last season, he was the only one that made our games worth watching FFS.
 
Terminator said:
The point I'm making is Martial's contribution was significant and played a huge and direct role in whatever we achieved last season more so than Adnan did.

Cant believe some people are downplaying Martial's efforts last season, he was the only one that made our games worth watching FFS.
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I was thinking you are talking about Mbappé, got you wrong. You are right, the contribution from Martial was quite big, so was Rashford's. As much as i would like Mbappe at our club, i think it makes a lot more sense to get a finished product aka Griezmann in, that would lift us immediately. Talent wise we are really stocked good, it's the current world class players where we are lacking.
 
totaalvoetbal said:
He seems to be smart and has good people around him. He already turned down Real Madrid. The only reason he might join you is if the money is astronomical.

Football wise he can do better and Mourinho is a defensive coach and won't improve his game. He will most likely leave for Real Madrid in a season to replace Ronaldo. He is a Madrid and Ronaldo fan.
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Blablablabla. In the words of the not so special one: We shall see about that.
 
JPRouve said:
Monaco can afford it. The question is about their will to keep him and his will to stay.
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Monaco can't afford it mate. You know that probably Silva, Baka, Fabinho will leave, but how can they refuse 80/90M€ for a player who only played 30 games ?

That's a crazy increase in value for a player. Imagine the guy break his leg this season.

This is a gamble for Monaco, and since they can get 200M€+ in transfer this summer, they can easily buy new players and still be competitive in L1
 
Chaky_Best said:
Monaco can't afford it mate. You know that probably Silva, Baka, Fabinho will leave, but how can they refuse 80/90M€ for a player who only played 30 games ?

That's a crazy increase in value for a player. Imagine the guy break his leg this season.

This is a gamble for Monaco, and since they can get 200M€+ in transfer this summer, they can easily buy new players and still be competitive in L1
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It's not how it works, if they keep their lads they have the potential to be the best team in France and an outsider in Europe as well. They are rich themselves and dont need any money. They want to rise to the top and they need players like him for.
 
Chaky_Best said:
Monaco can't afford it mate. You know that probably Silva, Baka, Fabinho will leave, but how can they refuse 80/90M€ for a player who only played 30 games ?

That's a crazy increase in value for a player. Imagine the guy break his leg this season.

This is a gamble for Monaco, and since they can get 200M€+ in transfer this summer, they can easily buy new players and still be competitive in L1
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They can afford to keep him, as long as they balance their books and that's just because they want to participate to the CL. It's not because someone offers 80m for Mbappé that they will have to sell, if other players, players that are actually scheduled to be sold are sold, Monaco won't be tempted to sell.

Also Monaco want to be competitive, they are not going to sell just because they can get 200m.
 
If Monaco are able to still pay Falcao's wages im betting they are better off than most PL teams i doubt money is a deciding factor for them.
 
JPRouve said:
They can afford to keep him, as long as they balance their books and that's just because they want to participate to the CL. It's not because someone offers 80m for Mbappé that they will have to sell, if other players, players that are actually scheduled to be sold are sold, Monaco won't be tempted to sell.

Also Monaco want to be competitive, they are not going to sell just because they can get 200m.
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Don't you support both Monaco and United? Do you genuinely think anyone in Monaco's current squad can take us up a level? I'm all on the Mbappe hype train but it's hard to think how we'd fit him in, hope we buy some players this summer in positions we actually need rather than just spending cash for the sake of spending it.
 
Womp said:
Don't you support both Monaco and United? Do you genuinely think anyone in Monaco's current squad can take us up a level? I'm all on the Mbappe hype train but it's hard to think how we'd fit him in, hope we buy some players this summer in positions we actually need rather than just spending cash for the sake of spending it.
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Several players could but Fabinho is the obvious player, he is a solid passer, a very good defender and an excellent athlete.
 
JPRouve said:
Several players could but Fabinho is the obvious player, he is a solid passer, a very good defender and an excellent athlete.
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Hopefully we go for him very early, can't see them selling many players, if any club sign players like Bernanrdo Silva, Bakayoko then that's it. We won't get Fabinho.

How much money Moncao need to balance FFP? Is it around 50 Million right?
 
roonster09 said:
Hopefully we go for him very early, can't see them selling many players, if any club sign players like Bernanrdo Silva, Bakayoko then that's it. We won't get Fabinho.

How much money Moncao need to balance FFP? Is it around 50 Million right?
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It depends on who you listen to, Vasilyev said that it wasn't a problem this season because of the results in Europe but Monaco will still sell players, while others say that it's between 50m-70m.

Edit: And the french players might not leave because they want to play the World cup and it's not a good idea to change club this summer.
 
JPRouve said:
It depends on who you listen to, Vasilyev said that it wasn't a problem this season because of the results in Europe but Monaco will still sell players, while others say that it's between 50m-70m.
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If they don't have problem then hopefully they will hold on to their players except selling Fabinho or Silva to ManUtd.

Btw what sort of wages do Monaco pay?
 
roonster09 said:
If they don't have problem then hopefully they will hold on to their players except selling Fabinho or Silva to ManUtd.

Btw what sort of wages do Monaco pay?
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Pretty sure part of the Monaco attraction is the tax free salary they pay. When Falcao left athletico for Monaco I'm sure he was on ridiculous money (since then it'a just even crazier mind you).

Not sure how much the younger kids are on mind
 
We need an rvn said:
Pretty sure part of the Monaco attraction is the tax free salary they pay. When Falcao left athletico for Monaco I'm sure he was on ridiculous money (since then it'a just even crazier mind you).

Not sure how much the younger kids are on mind
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Yeah forgot about tax free part. Thanks.
 
roonster09 said:
If they don't have problem then hopefully they will hold on to their players except selling Fabinho or Silva to ManUtd.

Btw what sort of wages do Monaco pay?
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The wages aren't huge but foreign players don't pay taxes.
 
Womp said:
Don't you support both Monaco and United? Do you genuinely think anyone in Monaco's current squad can take us up a level? I'm all on the Mbappe hype train but it's hard to think how we'd fit him in, hope we buy some players this summer in positions we actually need rather than just spending cash for the sake of spending it.
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Monaco ? Absolutely not, I only have United in my heart and my NT that's all. I just live in France and I'm following every top Leagues.

(Beside I don't really understand the ones that loves two clubs, It's like loving two girls, basically impossible !)

Regarding Monaco's side, I do really think that a lot of them are worth coming to PL.

Top of them Fabinho and Bernardo Silva. They both showed against Spurs and Chitteh (two legs twice) that they're more than good enough to hurt them, so I'd bet with them being top players.

Then of course you've Bakayoko (I've few doubts about him. Last year he was ok, and this year he's very good, but whether he can be a top one, I don't know).

Mbappé is very different. The guy has something, but he would struggle at Manchester because of the type of game we're playing and the Zlatan's presence for sure. He'd been perfect for Guardiola but they've Jesus.

Subasic is also better than half of the keeper of the PL.

And to finish I'd let one more year to Sidibé and Mendy to see what they can do (Sidibé is not that great to me)
 
JPRouve said:
They can afford to keep him, as long as they balance their books and that's just because they want to participate to the CL. It's not because someone offers 80m for Mbappé that they will have to sell, if other players, players that are actually scheduled to be sold are sold, Monaco won't be tempted to sell.

Also Monaco want to be competitive, they are not going to sell just because they can get 200m.
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I do think that they can sell him (I don't say that they'll) because a player is an active for a club and who knows what'll happen with him if he stays in a basic Monaco side next year ?

And I'm sorry but even if Ed Woodward comes to Madrid with 100M, they'll struggle to keep Benzema, Kroos or Modric, so I do really think that when a certain figure is reached, a club can't keep a player
 
Chaky_Best said:
I do think that they can sell him (I don't say that they'll) because a player is an active for a club and who knows what'll happen with him if he stays in a basic Monaco side next year ?

And I'm sorry but even if Ed Woodward comes to Madrid with 100M, they'll struggle to keep Benzema, Kroos or Modric, so I do really think that when a certain figure is reached, a club can't keep a player
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They can sell anyone but you said that they had to which is wrong they don't have to, they just could.

Also you are assuming that the player wants to leave.
 
El Zoido said:
Mbappe, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba duba
Ba du, yeaah

Anyone else?
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The 1st time I add subtitles to a YouTube videos. You have inspired the lyrics. The work isn't complete and clean but I get your point.

@JPRouve should also watch it :D


 
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Downcast said:
The 1st time I add subtitles to a YouTube videos. You have inspired the lyrics. The work isn't complete and clean but I get your point.

@JPRouve should also watch it :D


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I might think about that song when he scores his next goal.:lol:
 
Red Star One said:
According to Spanish AS (not always reliable but not utterly rubbish either) Monaco turned down 110 million euro offer from Premier League club for him. They expect something around 150.

http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2017/03/22/primera/1490143814_954512.html
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That's £95m. :lol: Unless that fee is heavily structured like Martial's deal with endless clauses and such that is an absurd fee. Mbappe is very good but he certainly isn't that good.

Expecting 150m euros is about £130m too.
 
LouisDanGaal said:
That didn't happen to Martial.
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Martial is a squad player at United. If he was still at Monaco he'd most likely be playing 90 minutes every match. Any young player with bags of potential should stay where they are for a while yet and continue to fully develop before moving to a bigger club with more competition for places and less patience with younger players' progression due to the win right now mentality most of them have.

It isn't a slight on Martial or United. It's just how it is. There's plenty other examples but I used Martial as the story is pretty much the exact same what with it being Monaco. Look at Batshuayi at Chelsea as another example.
 
Pink Moon said:
Martial is a squad player at United. If he was still at Monaco he'd most likely be playing 90 minutes every match. Any young player with bags of potential should stay where they are for a while yet and continue to fully develop before moving to a bigger club with more competition for places and less patience with younger players' progression due to the win right now mentality most of them have.

It isn't a slight on Martial or United. It's just how it is. There's plenty other examples but I used Martial as the story is pretty much the exact same what with it being Monaco. Look at Batshuayi at Chelsea as another example.
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I am not saying its a slight on Martial just that its wrong. He was a sure starter last season and this season he plays when he is playing well if he drops out of form he gets dropped like pretty much every footballer in the world, even Muller at Bayern but you wouldn't start classing him as a squad player.

To address the other point about staying at Monaco that isn't the case, Heck even looking at prospects look at tielemans, he stayed at a lesser light of a club in Anderlecht, same with kovacic and countless other young players who spent long patches out of the team due to bad form. If Mbappe hits bad form he would get dropped from Monaco. The only question when considering if he should move is if he is good enough.

Also just to point out Monaco are playing much higher stakes than us, they are competing for a title and playing in the champions league quarters, they have much more at risk than us if they have too much patience.
 
DWelbz19 said:
That's £95m. :lol: Unless that fee is heavily structured like Martial's deal with endless clauses and such that is an absurd fee. Mbappe is very good but he certainly isn't that good.

Expecting 150m euros is about £130m too.
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He is nailed on to go for a world record fee at this point, just on hype alone.
 
What a goal. Made that look easy. :drool:
 
Whatever price. Ice cold mentality. Sensational awareness. Clinical decision making. Ruthless precision. Excellent player.
 
I imagined him doing that in a united jersey and now have to change my panties
 
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