Mata + 10m would be a great deal for us.
Juan Mata
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, don't forget the "special" tax on top of them.Mata won't be pleased though will he? Robinho threw a fit when Real tried to use him in a deal for Ronaldo
My impression is that Moyes will hustle to get more money, and Roman will pay. He doesn't want to be the guy that sold one of Manchester United's main players for almost a decade, not to mention THE English Football Icon. So of course he'll play hard ball.
I'd accept that. Mata is a quality player, and with that 10M, on top of the money we have been given to spend, we could get a quality Centre-Mid. No brainer for me looking at the situation.
Why doesn't Maureen fancy him?
Mata doesn't strike me as the kind of individual that would kick up a fuss publicly but it's hardly a vote of confidence. If he doesn't leave in this window he may be looking for a way out and back to Spain next summer like Xabi Alonso did.
This makes no sense to me on United's part at all.
Rooney has been hit and miss for a long time and his heart os not in it. Mata is a world class player who does the business consistantly.
We should be jumping at this offer and plouging that additional £10m into doing all we can to get Fabregas. We would have a far stronger squad with Mata and Febregas than we currently have with an unhappy Rooney and a weak midfield.
Rooney has been hit and miss for a long time and his heart os not in it. Mata is a world class player who does the business consistantly.
We should be jumping at this offer and plouging that additional £10m into doing all we can to get Fabregas. We would have a far stronger squad with Mata and Febregas than we currently have with an unhappy Rooney and a weak midfield.
Crazy, crazy offer if true. If we can get Mata and somehow get Fabregas too by putting the £25M we offered, plus the £10M from Rooney/Mata and another £5M or so on top of that, it'd be a good summer.
Carrick Fabregas
Nani* Kagawa Mata
RVP
*If it is true that he could be staying.
We still would need another signing or two but that would be a great front six.
Jesus... even Damien's gone into muppet mode!
I don't think we 'need' Mata TBH. I mean he's an excellent player but he'd be a luxary. Rather get a load of cash and spunk it on midfielders.
Maybe we're hustling, in fact we must be, there is no other reason to reject such a bid.
He'd be a grand replacement for Rooney in that he can play behind the striker. I realise we have Kagawa for this, but he can't be our only option there.
If we indeed end up with Mata in our team, we could make the front 4 very flexible and interchangeable.
-----------RVP---------
Nani - Kagawa - Mata
--Carrick --- Fellaini--
We would possess enough creativity near the front, that Fellaini would prove to be that steal in midfield we have been missing over the past few years.
-----------RVP---------
Nani - Kagawa - Mata
--Carrick --- Fellaini--
We would possess enough creativity near the front, that Fellaini would prove to be that steal in midfield we have been missing over the past few years.
A rejuvenated Rooney at Chelsea would land them the title i reckon even though rooneys high standards at utd dropped last season....I don't think we need mata all that much...would hamper the progress of zaha and with nani staying and having welbeck too for the right then we again would have too many players for one position and not sufficient cover for other positions....van ginkel is the player we would want from them but that won't happen....maybe if they threw lampard into the mix with mata then it could appeal
Not even that. Mata can play in any of the 3 attacking positions behind the striker.
Nani Kagawa Mata
RVP
Yes please!
Yep. Very good on free-kicks too.
Chelsea seem to do OK with 3 similar players in Mata, Hazard and Oscar, so I don't see how we wouldnt benefit from Mata just because we have Kagawa.
Kagawa and Mata in the same team has the potential to be fecking stupendous.
Kagawa and Mata in the same team has the potential to be fecking stupendous.
But is mata!!! He bes player!!! OMG!!!
Mata would be pretty much the perfect replacement. Plays off the left and covers Kagawa in the centre.
In an ideal world, Rooney would get his head in check and come back to play for United and give 100% but exchanging him with Mata + money can be great.
I'm worried to see Chelsea with Rooney up front, I mean a change of scenery might be the thing for him to get back at his best and there aren't many better players in the league when he is just that.
I'm worried to see Chelsea with Rooney up front, I mean a change of scenery might be the thing for him to get back at his best and there aren't many better players in the league when he is just that.
hahaha. Almost got me with the white text.
We can pontificate all we like, but it looks like either
a) He's not part of the bid at all - in which case we don't have the option
b) He was and we rejected it outright - which means we don't want him, and our club is run by a collection of retarded panda's.
a) He's not part of the bid at all - in which case we don't have the option
b) He was and we rejected it outright - which means we don't want him, and our club is run by a collection of retarded panda's.
-----------De Gea-----------
Rafael----Rio----Vidic----Evra
-------Carrick--Fabregas-----
Zaha------Kagawa------Mata
------------RVP-------------
Rafael----Rio----Vidic----Evra
-------Carrick--Fabregas-----
Zaha------Kagawa------Mata
------------RVP-------------
They've offered us money plus Mata? How stupid are they? Seriously, did some guy just turn up to work drunk at Chelsea and do it for the laugh?
Also, this better be us playing hardball because if we miss out on the chance to sign Juan Mata then I'll.......I'll make a lot of angry posts on here.
Also, this better be us playing hardball because if we miss out on the chance to sign Juan Mata then I'll.......I'll make a lot of angry posts on here.
I saw a good post elsewhere which reminded us that before signing a player, usually scouts have compiled lots of research on the player to find out how they'd fit into the team, to find out what sort of player they are and what sort of game they have etc. With this offer, I'm going to assume we probably haven't really been looking at Mata a lot.
Now, we know he's a world class player. That's obvious for anyone to see and I'm sure Moyes knows he's a world class player as well. I wouldn't blame him though if he was hesitant at just accepting the offer right away when what he's seen of Mata is limited to matches against him, matches he's watched without focusing on Mata and highlights. On paper the offer is brilliant and one we should grab right away, but I wouldn't blame him if he wanted to take a better look at Mata first before making a final decision on a deal like this if Chelsea return with a new offer.
I think they're stupid for offering money + Mata though considering Mata is easily worth as much as Rooney is in today's market, if not more than him.
Like Torres, he needed a change of scenery too.
I get your point, it would suck to see Rooney go and play well there but he is more trouble than he is worth for us.
It won't have been Mata, it'll be Luiz. It might just come down to Fellaini or Luiz if we do get a midfielder this window. THey'll have rejected it because they'd see losing Rooney as losing a lot of potentially valuable marketing too, as an English player Rooney is more marketable than many possible replacements.
Quite easily, especially considering he is also 3 years younger. I don't understand why we would want to keep Rooney if we know that Mata is coming to replace him and Rooney wanting out of the club as well. It makes no sense this...
Edit: Maybe the club sees the potential financial repercussions of losing the English virtuoso.
Except that Torres was already fecked up mentally and had niggling injuries before he even joined Chelsea. There is this false assumption that he turned shit over there whereas he was on already on a downhill at Liverpool.
Rooney is fitter than Torres and has done better in this last season than Torres has for LFC. Plus Mourinho is top coach for motivating players.
Yeah, exactly. I can only imagine that maybe Moyes wants a bit more research into Mata if he were to come at all. He's been around for a while and everyone knows he's brilliant, but a top manager needs to know all the finer details about these players when they're buying them. Once he does, then hopefully Chelsea come back with a similar offer and we take it.
I think this too. I don't see why they would exchange their best player (was last season anyway) for a player who is 3 years older.
Mourinho isn't stupid, Mata is a world class player and for him to get rid of him against his biggest rivals - that just doesn't make sense at all.
Yep. Except the muppets have taken this bid as fact and are using it to criticize the club.