Every time there's a perfect opportunity to make progress during tory chaos, they feck it up. They are worse than the tories imo
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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He's really put his foot down. Tom went to him to work out a deal and was told he was not moving. Could this really end up in a split in the party?
If he pushed through on ideas like mandatory selection, the nuclear option would be those against his leadership resigning the Labour whip and declaring as a separate party, thereby becoming the official opposition with all the benefits that brings (reply to the government, lead on PMQs, a fair amount of state funding), and relegating Corbyn's Labour to the fourth party. The danger from that would be the next PM calling a snap general election, resulting in the left's vote being more split than ever, and probably a resounding majority for the Tories. Or in other words, the 1980s again.
A snap general election is really in the Tories best interests then? Get a mandate before they fail in EU negotiations or renege on the very thing they sold Leave on - immigration.
I'd say most definitely, I'd put as little faith in the reports Boris doesn't plan on a general election as everything else he's said over the past few months/years. They've just learned the lesson from Brown that allowing speculation that you'll be doing it, then bailing out if the situation changes, doesn't end well. But yeah, new leader optimism, probably bringing back a load of voters that previously went UKIP and Labour crisis means big Tory win and I'm not sure why they'd miss out on that opportunity.
And looks like Eagle will be running after all, announcement tomorrow at 3.
Wow.
And it's been obvious by reading the tweets @Ubik has been posting that there have been repeated leaks with absolutely no backing in fact being accepted at face value by the media - starting with Corbyn voted out, then the neat contradiction of his team or him digging their heels in (from the same course) and then the 180 on Angela Eagle.
Journalists need to either be a little less naive about their sources or say openly that their anti-Corbyn politics is driving them to post anything that makes him look bad.
Do labor want to be remembered as the party that took the UK out of EU and resided over the break up of the UK? Especially if it goes bad.
If he has the unions backing him I doubt he'll quit. Problem is they haven't got anyone else suitable to lead. If they had a good enough alternative they would have got in last time.
Is England fast becoming Greece?
Try Italy for that one.
Interesting twitter exchange
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I look forward to hearing how Julie Ward hates women for daring to criticise Laura.
Interesting twitter exchange
With reporters so supine, Labour don't even need Malcolm Tucker to orchestrate their coup in the media.
Rumours circulating that the NHS has secured the rights to Angela Eagle's speech tomorrow for use as an experimental anaesthetic.
I'm not sure Laura Kuenssberg has done anything wrong there but I've heard similar stories - such as this one being done without the consesus of those whose views are being represented: http://londonyounglabour.co.uk/uncategorized/lyl-statement-on-jeremy-corbyn/
I'm absolutely sickened by the actions of labour MPs over the past few days.At a time when we should be solid against a split Tory party we pull this crap.Hope Jeremy stays put .
It was my best available explanation for why the official challenge was being delayed. Unfortunately things are moving so quickly and info coming from so many places that a lot of it conflicts - Andy Burnham's been supposedly about to resign for about 2 days now, for instance, even after denying it on multiple occasions. But yes, looks like now that she's been agreed upon and will announce 3pm tomorrow (as I posted up thread).
I am hoping that he doesn't quit because he's the only politician that I like, as he doesn't seem like the type of person who's deceitful...in actual fact, his popularity comes from his consistency and his integrity over the years.
need to get the Blairites out.
the rest are backstabbers and obviously Tory arselickers
Oh right sorry didn't see it. Wouldn't have quoted you if I saw it earlier.
I'm quite worried about Labour. They were waiting for an opportunity to do this to Corbyn but they have no-one who can really win the confidence of the public, a lot of whom are going to be furious at all this.
I'm think I'm going to vote for Corbyn again, assuming he stands. I don't like what is happening, it's opportunistic back-stabbing.
Considering the main reason being given for his ouster is unelectability, is Angela eagle any more electable?
Depends on how the press treats her (and how good her PR team is). If she is given the "competent" label, yes.
Wouldn't say so, no.
So he worked on Liz Kendalls leadership campaign. No wonder he's so bitter.
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Her best bet is that they send earplugs to every Labour voter in the country before sending everyone else into a coma, by putting one of her speeches on every TV channel, the night before the polls open.
That George Eaton is a right twat isn't he?
She's the sacrificial lamb for the real pretender to the throne. This is like the scene from the Godfather when Don Corleone tells Tom Hagen that Tattaglia's just a pimp, and that Barzini is the man behind Sonny's murder.
Eagle is Tattaglia. But who's Barzini?
Eagle is Tattaglia. But who's Barzini?
In inanimate Corbyn rod we trust.
The Blairbot 3000. He comes fitted with an alarm that goes off every 45 minutes.
At least Obi-Wan has his back