Perhaps i should have said "coherent and believable policy agenda", as much as such a descriptions can be applied to politicians these days. For all its difficulties, the Government still hold Competence Hill in the minds of voters. Although trust will become an increasing problem as time apses.
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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Perhaps i should have said "coherent and believable policy agenda", as much as such a descriptions can be applied to politicians these days. For all its difficulties, the Government still hold Competence Hill in the minds of voters. Although trust will become an increasing problem as time apses.
Dugdale isn't 100% against independence is she? If so I'm hardly surprised the Unionists flocked to the Tories.
Might be worth pointing out that it's changing from 2012, when Labour wasn't as much of a horrific shitshow.
I think that's a big problem generally, Labour don't know where to place themselves and just look like the worst of all worlds. I'd say it's a clusterfeck situation, no path looks like solving it.
Projected national share is out
The one's usually a good predictor of the GE when the anti-government bias is accounted for.
She said she would consider voting leave in a future referendum... Though she quickly (but not quickly enough) changed her position
SAKE, why is Ken touring the news programmes?!
Fat Ruth slaughtered her for not ruling out allowing Labour politicians to vote Yes in event of a future referendum. I mean, how dare she allow people to have freedom of choice? #feckDemocracy.
Why the feck is Dugher going on BBC news moaning about Corbyn and Labour's direction? Where was he in 2012 when Miliband achieved similar results.
I'd suspend him
I'd suspend him
7% down on Ed's results...
If you mean Micheal Dugher ,he as a history of this and was chopped by Corbyn in the reshuffle.
Meh, it's too predictable to get annoyed about now. All aboard the apathy train!
Looks like he's completely lost his mind down the bottom of a pint glass. He's quoted on the BBC News site as saying the following in response to a question about whether he regretted the Hitler comments.
"If I'd known what these old Blairite MPs were going to whip this up into, I'd have found a way of evading the question."
Only thing is Ken, I don't actually remember anyone asking you about Hitler!
Chris Leslie, a Miliband shadow cabinet member is now giving the current leadership a lecture on beating the Conservatives
It's always the seat count the media focus on, whereas the percentage of the vote, which is surely a more significant indicator, is largely ignored.
I suppose who wins the horse race is the most important thing.
Corbyn just had a go at his own party. Don't think the next PLP meeting will be amicable.
Laura Kuenssberg petition taken down over sexist abuse
38 Degrees director says campaign calling for BBC political editor to be sacked was hijacked by Twitter and Facebook users
By Jasper Jackson
Tuesday 10 May 2016
Campaign group 38 degrees has taken down a petition calling for BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg to be sacked, saying it had become a focal point for misogynist abuse.
The majority of those signing and supporting the petition expressed concerns about what they saw as biased reporting of the Labour party and its leader Jeremy Corbyn by Kuenssberg. However, some supporters on social media used abusive and sexist language in calling for the BBC’s first female political editor to go.
38 Degrees executive director David Babbs said the petition had been taken down with the agreement of the person who had posted it. He said: “I am really concerned that a petition hosted on the 38 Degrees website has been hijacked, and used as a focal point for sexist and hateful abuse made towards Laura Kuenssberg on Twitter. That is totally unacceptable and, with the agreement of the petition starter, we’ve taken the petition down to prevent it being used in this way. There is no place in the 38 Degrees family for sexism or any form of discrimination or hate speech.”
Prior to the petition being taken down, former Independent on Sunday political editor Jane Merrick told the Guardian that Kuenssberg had faced an extra layer of sexist criticism. “She has been called a whore and a bitch on Twitter,” said Merrick. “Nick Robinson used to be accused of Tory bias but he never experienced this level of nastiness.”
“Of course, not all Corbyn supporters are sexist – far from it – but there is a core of hard-left misogyny that comes out against women when Corbyn is under pressure – such as the abuse against Stella Creasy and Jess Phillips. Jeremy Corbyn said back in September he wanted a ‘kinder politics’ so he should condemn these vile attacks against a respected and experienced journalist.”
The original poster of the petition had also tried to distance himself from those using it to make misogynistic attacks, writing in an update that he “would like to reassure everyone that I am a passionate advocate for equality in all areas, not just gender equality”.
He added: “This petition has precisely zero to do with Kuenssberg’s gender. Regardless of the gender you identify with, there is no excuse for biased reporting and misrepresentation of facts when you represent an organisation that has been famed for its impartiality and balanced approach.”
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/may/10/laura-kuenssberg-petition-sexist-abuse-38-degrees-bbc
38 Degrees director says campaign calling for BBC political editor to be sacked was hijacked by Twitter and Facebook users
By Jasper Jackson
Tuesday 10 May 2016
Campaign group 38 degrees has taken down a petition calling for BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg to be sacked, saying it had become a focal point for misogynist abuse.
The majority of those signing and supporting the petition expressed concerns about what they saw as biased reporting of the Labour party and its leader Jeremy Corbyn by Kuenssberg. However, some supporters on social media used abusive and sexist language in calling for the BBC’s first female political editor to go.
38 Degrees executive director David Babbs said the petition had been taken down with the agreement of the person who had posted it. He said: “I am really concerned that a petition hosted on the 38 Degrees website has been hijacked, and used as a focal point for sexist and hateful abuse made towards Laura Kuenssberg on Twitter. That is totally unacceptable and, with the agreement of the petition starter, we’ve taken the petition down to prevent it being used in this way. There is no place in the 38 Degrees family for sexism or any form of discrimination or hate speech.”
Prior to the petition being taken down, former Independent on Sunday political editor Jane Merrick told the Guardian that Kuenssberg had faced an extra layer of sexist criticism. “She has been called a whore and a bitch on Twitter,” said Merrick. “Nick Robinson used to be accused of Tory bias but he never experienced this level of nastiness.”
“Of course, not all Corbyn supporters are sexist – far from it – but there is a core of hard-left misogyny that comes out against women when Corbyn is under pressure – such as the abuse against Stella Creasy and Jess Phillips. Jeremy Corbyn said back in September he wanted a ‘kinder politics’ so he should condemn these vile attacks against a respected and experienced journalist.”
The original poster of the petition had also tried to distance himself from those using it to make misogynistic attacks, writing in an update that he “would like to reassure everyone that I am a passionate advocate for equality in all areas, not just gender equality”.
He added: “This petition has precisely zero to do with Kuenssberg’s gender. Regardless of the gender you identify with, there is no excuse for biased reporting and misrepresentation of facts when you represent an organisation that has been famed for its impartiality and balanced approach.”
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/may/10/laura-kuenssberg-petition-sexist-abuse-38-degrees-bbc
Internet abuse shocker. Come on now...
Kuenssberg definitely isn't impartial to be fair.
Sexism and misogyny are ingrained societal problems which are present in basically every demographic or ideological group and the double standards in reporting are crystal clear. If trolls latch on to a leftist issue for their own agenda it's used as a stick to beat the 'hard-left' with. Meanwhile Cameron is cutting funding for women's shelters to pieces.
Okay, who made Shamwow a mod...
'Bout time if you ask me.
Edit: just checked and it turned out no one asked me
. Oh well.
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No surprise there .BBC have been bending over backwards to please the Government prior to the white paper and with talk of adding Government members to the BBC board .Expect the BBC to become less impartial.
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The BBC has had numerous inquiries into bias over the years, with the results of which having been suppressed in some cases. So it's not impossible, no.
Lyons did not reference any specific examples or interviews, perhaps one of you might care to do so?
Lyons did not reference any specific examples or interviews, perhaps one of you might care to do so?
Pretty sure if you look through this thread you'll find one or two or three.
But was that bias, or rather the changing media more generally, and the focus of the immediate past? Would the attitudes be any different if it were another individual or party involved? The press certainly didn't arrange for a reassuring group hug when IDS was in difficulty.
There are a greater number of political magazine type shows out there these days, which fuels an increased demand for stories; additionally, social media has taken the reality of 24/7 coverage to a whole new level. There may well be a very modest amount of bias, subconsciously even, however i have my doubts as to the extent.
I'm too sure how much truth there's in this but - http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/peoples-as...ervative-leader-david-cameron-resigns-1555219
And I remember this interview standing out a bit, it's a not really bias but it is odd, really odd.
Still I just posted the story as it was interesting, not sure I believe it myself. The BBC get it both from the right and the left, it can't really win but with that said the BBC is still a giant organisation so its interest will always be to look after itself.
There's certainly a case of the BBC being biased to the goverment in charge. They report whatever the prime minister says with greater prominence and without analysis so naturally the narratives they form tend to follow from there.
I do think some of their reporting about Labour being in crisis is very tabloid though and they'll show a lot more restraint when reporting on the Tories in such fashion.
Wouldn't quite call conspiracy as much as its looking out for their interests
I do think some of their reporting about Labour being in crisis is very tabloid though and they'll show a lot more restraint when reporting on the Tories in such fashion.
Wouldn't quite call conspiracy as much as its looking out for their interests
Seems like the big story on Corbyn today is him ignoring Cameron as they walked to the Queen's Speech. Despite the fact that he can clearly be seen acknowledging him, nodding, laughing and talking in the video that the Telegraph shows in their article (if you watch the high quality version instead of the blurry version).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...to-ignore-david-cameron-at-the-state-opening/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...to-ignore-david-cameron-at-the-state-opening/
The Telegraph has to take a day off from criticising the Government/Cameron sometime.
This is the first i've heard of the story and it doesn't sound like much of one. I'd probably have accidentally intentionally trodden on Dave's newly polished shoe; an elbow in the ribs would be bad form.
This is the first i've heard of the story and it doesn't sound like much of one. I'd probably have accidentally intentionally trodden on Dave's newly polished shoe; an elbow in the ribs would be bad form.
Its a nothing story, nor does it even seem to be true.
Besides, who the hell wants to make small talk with Cameron?
Besides, who the hell wants to make small talk with Cameron?
Jeremy Corbyn's PMQs plans leaked, adviser Seumas Milne claims
Jeremy Corbyn's communications chief claims the Labour leader's preparations for Prime Minister's Questions are being leaked by his own staff.
In a fly-on-the-wall documentary, Seumas Milne said the "annoying" leaks from his top team were handing an advantage to the Conservatives.
Mr Corbyn also criticises the media coverage of his party.
Vice News followed Labour's leader for eight weeks, including the row over anti-Semitism and May's elections.
The film, Jeremy Corbyn: The Outsider, shows Mr Corbyn's inner circle rehearsing for his weekly PMQs bout with David Cameron.
After the two leaders have clashed over the government's academy plans, Mr Milne tells the Vice reporter: "This time they did (know the questions) because it leaked. It leaked from that meeting.
"It's very annoying because it only happens about a third of the time, but it obviously gives them a little bit of extra time.
"Whenever there is a leak it gives them that advantage - it gives them the advantage on TV as well."
Mr Corbyn also hit out at the BBC over the local elections, claiming "the whole narrative" had been that "Corbyn's going to lose" and saying an unnamed group of political commentators were "shallow, facile and ill-informed".
In other footage, the leader's aides discuss their attempts to ensure he dresses smartly and watch him pose for a succession of photographs with supporters.
Mr Corbyn is also shown reacting to the suspension of Ken Livingstone from the party after the former London mayor invoked Hitler in a defence of an MP's comments about Israel.
Jeremy Corbyn's communications chief claims the Labour leader's preparations for Prime Minister's Questions are being leaked by his own staff.
In a fly-on-the-wall documentary, Seumas Milne said the "annoying" leaks from his top team were handing an advantage to the Conservatives.
Mr Corbyn also criticises the media coverage of his party.
Vice News followed Labour's leader for eight weeks, including the row over anti-Semitism and May's elections.
The film, Jeremy Corbyn: The Outsider, shows Mr Corbyn's inner circle rehearsing for his weekly PMQs bout with David Cameron.
After the two leaders have clashed over the government's academy plans, Mr Milne tells the Vice reporter: "This time they did (know the questions) because it leaked. It leaked from that meeting.
"It's very annoying because it only happens about a third of the time, but it obviously gives them a little bit of extra time.
"Whenever there is a leak it gives them that advantage - it gives them the advantage on TV as well."
Mr Corbyn also hit out at the BBC over the local elections, claiming "the whole narrative" had been that "Corbyn's going to lose" and saying an unnamed group of political commentators were "shallow, facile and ill-informed".
In other footage, the leader's aides discuss their attempts to ensure he dresses smartly and watch him pose for a succession of photographs with supporters.
Mr Corbyn is also shown reacting to the suspension of Ken Livingstone from the party after the former London mayor invoked Hitler in a defence of an MP's comments about Israel.
@Drifter thanks for that link. Seems interesting.
Not sure if he comes out well in that at all. Weird decision to green light it. 50/50 at best.
Corbyn's leadership and communication through the EU referendum have been atrocious. Where is the Labour Party in this debate??!
Made a big speech on it today. Hit the points I thought he should about worker and consumer rights being protected by being part of the EU
Non-existent. Then again Labour were a bit shit for the Scottish Independence debate, yet Gordon Brown waited, waited, judged it, and when he stuck the boot in it counted.
Is Corbyn that clever? I suspect not, but it's an interesting test, and somewhere along the line he's going to have to take these tests and pass or fail.
Handled it well in PMQs today . Questioned those leave hypocrites who are ready to oppose Osbourne's so called cuts suggestion but were happy to vote for the bedroom tax, cuts on disability benefits, slashing care for the elderly and i would add abusing the sanction system on unemployed and those in low paid work.