It's called global warming, chief. It exists and I can't believe you would say otherwise
yupJeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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yup"92 of them are there on the basis of who Charles II shagged at some point in the past" 
That ice won't slide across a flat earth, mate, so no panic.It's called global warming, chief. It exists and I can't believe you would say otherwise
If the earth isn't flat then explain why the earth doesn't roll in a black hole like what snooker balls do.
Sheesh, it's not pocket science.
Ah so that is what this was about:
Very generous of him to send an invite the day before to the HoC when nobody would be there at the weekend. Wasn't like it was known over a week ago that Corbyn would be at Glastonbury.
a typical Tory cnut.
"Support our troops, while we start another senseless war"
"Support our troops, while we start another senseless war"
How would visiting an armed forces parade, or indeed openly publishing a letter suggesting Corbyn chose not to attend a parade because he doesn't respect the army, be any less accurately described as a political opportunity than attending Glastonbury?
Undoubtedly he's riding a wave of support, he's found a niche of the public that he can promise anything to and they won't ask him how he will deliver. Still, it's not students at Glastonbury he needs to win over, and by the nature of them his popularity surge will be short term. He needs another election soon before the next big thing arrives.
Who exactly was the last 'big thing'? Nobody in my living memory has evoked a reaction like this in the UK.
If Corbyn was to get advice on public appearances from anyone it would definitely be from Mr Heappey. A man who told a schoolgirl to "feck off back to Scotland" when she said she'd vote for independence.
Can guarantee he asked Tory HQ if he could be allowed a 'Free Marine A' avatar on Twitter.
Can guarantee he asked Tory HQ if he could be allowed a 'Free Marine A' avatar on Twitter.
Blair.
He'd only agree to appear in front of that many people if they were all corpses. And even then only if he had a waist high podium to hide his erection.
I was too young to notice or give a shit about politics / Blair. Did he attract the same crowd levels / people chanting his name etc?
I share your lack of really being there at the time but although you can't directly compare these things he was pretty much treated as the second coming from what people have described (with the obvious exception of dyed in the wool socialists).
I remember a girl in my history lesson confessed that she fancied Tony Blair. She was proper weird that one.
I'm not talking about politicians specifically. Corbyn is the fad of summer 2017. The nature of the demographic supporting him is that they will not continue this level of interest for long.
Yes. He was far more popular than Corbyn at this stage. People believed he was going to change things and his policies were real.
I had given up on Old Labour
Corbyn has led them back with a vengence.
He will be the next PM.
Corbyn has led them back with a vengence.
He will be the next PM.
Not in a position to judge. I have a slight desire for Amber Rudd to lower those glasses and tell me I've been a very naughty boy.
Its not much different to the Occupy protests. They lasted a year, give or take, before people lost interest and moved on to other things. Winter has a habit of breaking protest movements throughout history. The middle class youth at the heart of Corbyn's popularity have no real hardship driving them to a particular goal either, they just want a cause to attach themselves to. Give it a year or two and the cause will be something else.
You're disgusting.
Whilst his character remains a fertile source of debate in my view, Corbyn's opponents should always begin by targeting his dubious policies (provided that you've got some positivity of your own of course). A more assertive leader than May would have done so with some success.
Glastonbury was one giant comfort blanket for Corbyn, and a bit of an embarrassment for McDonnell. All those darlings chanting his name, who he would have cynically bought off on the backs of the vulnerable with his free uni tuition. A brave, buoyant leader (is Corbo not such), should be calling for unity in places where his popularity is an uncertain quantity.
Glastonbury was one giant comfort blanket for Corbyn, and a bit of an embarrassment for McDonnell. All those darlings chanting his name, who he would have cynically bought off on the backs of the vulnerable with his free uni tuition. A brave, buoyant leader (is Corbo not such), should be calling for unity in places where his popularity is an uncertain quantity.
No different to the Tories buying over the old as they'd tended to do tbf.
Aw, diddums, he's bribing the general public by promising to fund services, what an evil man.
They're not half so conceited though, nor puffed up with false moral superiority. Many of them are self-oriented too, it simply manifests differently.
Do you care to provide an example in modern politics of what you're suggesting ever happening? I can't think of one decent example.
You lot always provide new angles to moan about Corbyn but by attending Glastonbury he's doing what all good campaigns do and managing the message. Something which he failed to do at the start and rightly got stick for!!
You mean the party who have spent the past few months claiming to be strong and stable despite going into coalition, beaming themselves up as a party of economic competence despite all evidence pointing to the contrary, and that argue their central opponent is dangerous when they're now actively working alongside homophobic climate-change deniers haven't tried to claim the moral high-ground on just about every single occasion they've had the opportunity to do so? Come on...
Sure, the party that likes to own nationalism and constantly mentions May's vicar father isn't puffed up with false moral superiority. They'd never do anything like that, or claim to love Britain more than anyone else. Apart from the Sots, of course, they might let a communist become PM and destroy the country. Strong and stable! What a load of bollocks.
The Tories are a political machine seeking to maintain their position in office. It will serve Brexit for as long as possible, and then we'll back to the polls again.
But the Labour leadership is this group of nice, honest, cuddly politicians... What's more, all of its Glastonbury attending voters care like no other.
But the Labour leadership is this group of nice, honest, cuddly politicians...
What's more, all of its Glastonbury attending voters care like no other.The Tories are a political machine seeking to maintain their position in office. It will serve Brexit for as long as possible, and then we'll back to the polls again.
But the Labour leadership is this group of nice, honest, cuddly politicians...
Desperate. Can't wait to see the collapse of Tories in the near future, it's going to be an enjoyable ride and I have several empty jars ready for your tears Nick.
The Tories are a political machine seeking to maintain their position in office. It will serve Brexit for as long as possible, and then we'll back to the polls again.
But the Labour leadership is this group of nice, honest, cuddly politicians...
That's not what anyone's saying at all. I'll quite happily condemn or criticise comments made by McDonnell and Abbott on various issues, but I don't see why the Tories get off with cynically appealing to the old but Labour doing the same with the young is somehow worse.
In what world is politicians engaging with their core a bad thing? I suppose turning up to a disaster zone and posing for photos with the fire services and then disappearing without speaking to any of the victims is better. Keep the electorate at arms length, can't be fraternising.Tory voters are so condescending to the youth, ironically they're the ones who show themselves up to be immature and lacking wisdom.
And you certainly wouldn't find a Tory accusing journalists of not being patriotic if they ask tough questions on Brexit.
He's got my vote.
"At least he has a choir to preach to, Nick."
The goal was wide open.
Every government has its time, i grew up with thirteen years of Labour, then we had five of Tory-led coalition. There was Major too of course, although my recollection there is rather scant.
Corbyn/McDonnell are a greater concern to me than the simple premise of Labour rule. I'll be doing my best to boot their council next year however, just not sure whether OITNBlue for that one.
But do the Tories get let off? Most see such offers for what they are in my experience. Corbyn and many of those cheering him in that field, likely identify the uni policy as an altruistic act, and their motives beyond reproach. Whereas, in reality, that money was taken from other good causes to meet their selfish wants. Were things otherwise we could have seen beneficial effects elsewhere; this occurred in 2015, when Cameron matched the Lib Dem pledge on the NHS spending.
The goal was wide open.
Every government has its time, i grew up with thirteen years of Labour, then we had five of Tory-led coalition. There was Major too of course, although my recollection there is rather scant.
Corbyn/McDonnell are a greater concern to me than the simple premise of Labour rule. I'll be doing my best to boot their council next year however, just not sure whether OITNBlue for that one.
But do the Tories get let off? Most see such offers for what they are in my experience. Corbyn and many of those cheering him in that field, likely identify the uni policy as an altruistic act, and their motives beyond reproach. Whereas, in reality, that money was taken from other good causes to meet their selfish wants. Were things otherwise we could have seen beneficial effects elsewhere; this occurred in 2015, when Cameron matched the Lib Dem pledge on the NHS spending.
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I'm not sure the Tories have been appealing much to the old recently. Rightly or wrongly they have proposed removing the triple lock on pensions, removing the winter fuel allowance for all but the very poorest, and taking people's houses off them to pay for dementia care. I agree that politicians of all shades try and buy votes mind, just disagreeing with your example.
I'm not sure the Tories have been appealing much to the old recently. Rightly or wrongly they have proposed removing the triple lock on pensions, removing the winter fuel allowance for all but the very poorest, and taking people's houses off them to pay for dementia care. I agree that politicians of all shades try and buy votes mind, just disagreeing with your example.
Didn't older voters have a far worse turnout than usual? I'm guessing it was those who don't like May but can't bring themselves to vote Labour either.