Had May rattled today over breached Tory manifesto
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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Afzal Kahn's been selected as the candidate for Manchester Gorton.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...gorton-candidate-byelection-selected-12783831
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...gorton-candidate-byelection-selected-12783831
Not even terrorist attacks are a reason for taking a day off from trying to discredit him.
I love me some Labour supporting "moderates"
I love me some Labour supporting "moderates"
'One rule for them and another for everybody else': Nick Robinson skewers Angela Rayner over Labour shadow cabinet sending their children to selective schools
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-everybody-else-nick-robinson-skewers-angela/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-everybody-else-nick-robinson-skewers-angela/
There's no such hypocrisy here at all. One can use the advantages available to them whilst disagreeing that they should exist. Is the suggestion that Labour politicians should purposefully diminish their offsprings education because they believe spending should go towards making state schools excel and not a rollout of grammer schools?
Every report from the BBC on Labour is essentially an attack peice whilst Tory policy goes unquestioned. Brexit as an issue bucks that trend mind you.
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The question is whether they can make them excel. Throwing money at it will help but that alone won't solve many of the problems in education. I'd like to hear policies other than financial. One of the schools near me is states it's an unsafe environment and I don't think there are actually any good secondary schools in Bradford.
My partner before she went on maternity taught at both a failing and an outstanding both in deprived areas. The problem the failing schools have in deprived areas is lack of behavioural management. Throwing money at these schools won't solve the behaviour problems. It's something no one acknowledges in politics as an issue. But in schools a teacher can't actually teach because they continually have to 'perform crowd control'. The only way the outstanding school is functioning is because of bollockings of any child from day 1.
The other problem is poor head teachers who can't be demoted or got rid of easily and they can completely ruin schools and lives of 1000s of teachers and pupils. The other problem is the amount of time teachers need to spend doing paperwork. It easily becomes an 80 hour job so overworked teachers on mass leave the profession.
I went to one of those Bradford secondaries so i know.
Throwing money at something is a very specific choice of words this goverment tends to use to imply waste and over funding. Of course its not just about money but the prevalence of other issues does not negate the need for wise investment projects that could make a difference.
I definitely agree that more money is needed but more policies are needed too.
The "electable" side of Labour.
But please, tell me more about how they'll definitely crowd around an even slightly left leaning candidate if Corbyn stands aside.
But please, tell me more about how they'll definitely crowd around an even slightly left leaning candidate if Corbyn stands aside.
That said do you really want somebody incapable of appointing a competent accountant appointing the Chancellor?
And yet, Labour has sought to diminish the education of voters' offspring, most recently with the school meals proposal. These politicians will be able to absorb the VAT rise with relative ease, can the same be said for the JAMs?
I'm sure this will be reported in full on the BBC and elsewhere...
...or maybe not.
...or maybe not.
I literally saw a report on the BBC news channel about it 30 minutes ago.
At least, this disastrous experiment is near its end.
Minor positive from today.
You mean the end of an actual proper opposition rather than a status quo? How depressing.
The quicker he goes, the quicker the party recovers if the damage isn't too terminal.
Lets just hope once this saga has ended, Labour can elect a decent politician that has a chance of getting elected in an general election.
Lets just hope the likes of Momentum don't hijack the next leadership election.
Lets just hope the likes of Momentum don't hijack the next leadership election.
There was talk of Jeremy only holding on until he could change the 15% MP support rule. Anyone know what's happened there? Is that a possibility?
Yeah because all of Labour's issues came from Corbyn
I think it's getting voted on at conference, supposedly unlikely to pass but you never know.
I didn't say all the damage comes from him but they're certainly not going anywhere under him.
What are your worries about Momentum specifically?
In my constituency, the Labour councillors are Blairite and Tory-lite, whilst the Momentum operation are banging the drum on true Labour working class policies. Of course that's only my area, but just because they support Corbyn doesn't mean they don't have Labour's interests at heart and will support the wrong candidate.
Now is a time for traditional Labour voters and those disconnected with the party of late to come together.
Who would theoretically succeed Corbyn, no willing or decent candidates have revealed themselves in the 2 leadership elections.
This election is ultimately an opportunity for Labour to position itself for 2022.
Behind who though?
Behind which party? Or behind which leader? The Conservatives being the former. That latter, I don't know. We need a liberal Labour candidate that can still appeal to the middle class electorate.
Corbyn has such a little chance of winning but his purpose is intended to shift debate back to the centre (supposedly).
Labour needs a charismatic figure next. Confidence has been lost so they need messages to be delivered and values to be reasserted before they can seriously pursue governing again.
After all, at the heart of most of our daily political concerns are mainly core Labour issues.
Labour needs a charismatic figure next. Confidence has been lost so they need messages to be delivered and values to be reasserted before they can seriously pursue governing again.
After all, at the heart of most of our daily political concerns are mainly core Labour issues.
Damage?
Dan Jarvis, Marine A and giant immigration mug 2022.
His statement didn't even mention Brexit. 
Are you telling me the party isn't damaged?
I read that at first and thought it was weird. I ignored it because i thought I might be too biased against him. Glad I'm not the only one that thought it was weird.His statement didn't even mention Brexit.
I hope the electorate realises the importance of this election. Victory for the Tories will very likely mean they can go ahead with dimantling the NHS, implementing a hard Brexit, continuing with cuts to vital services and education... doing so much irrepairable damage to society. Corbyn has been given such unfair treatment in the media and I fully expect that to worsen even more in the lead-up. I hope he gets out and rekindles the hope he inspired during the leadership campaign, where he spoke directly to the people, free from media spin. Also, the policies are golden.
Personally think despite Corbyn being a complete tool, the fact people might vote Tory in their droves is depressing.
I find it difficult to believe he could be as incompetent as May. And let's face it, Labour historically are a bit careless but generally aren't causing suffering to those less fortunate.
I find it difficult to believe he could be as incompetent as May. And let's face it, Labour historically are a bit careless but generally aren't causing suffering to those less fortunate.
You bury your head in the sand if you think Corbyn is where he is simply because of the media.
Unfortunately they don't realize that, which is why the Tories have a 21 point lead in the polls. And when the damage is done and its too late, the same stupid fecks will suddenly start whining about how unfair it all is.