The ongoing "we need to get more aid through" message, added to the whole pier debacle has got to be one of the most finger digging in the wound bits of duplicity I've ever seen. It's like expressing concern about the condition of the inmates while you release the seal on the Zyclon b.
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These backward assholes should never open their mouths.
They were already selling Palestinians down the drain for decades and have been watching the current destruction of Palestine for more than a year without lifting a finger.
Their future "king" has zero problem with what's happening in Gaza, on the contrary.
Don't worry, it will be rebuilt to look far better. Though, of course it will be populated by the landgrabbing israeli terrorists.
The cruelty is unreal. They are treating the Palestinians as subhuman, so in that regard they are no different than Nazis.
It's wild how the Israeli troops themselves are documenting it too. A sense of complete impunity.
They know they are safe from punishment and they would continue to get sympathy from western governments.
Both impunity and righteousness. They believe they what they are doing is just. An actual mind virus.
Tales of infanticide have stoked hatred of Jews for centuries. They echo still today
Now it's antisemitic to point out that the IDF has killed a gazillion children in the last year.No one can tell you how attacking children's hospitals results in killing children. Much to ponder.
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Personally I don`t like references to `viruses` when discussing Israel or Jewish people as it was not unusual in Nazi ideology and Nazi pronouncements to refer to Jewish people as a `virus`. I don`t have an ethnicity dog in this fight - and no, Jewish is not a `race` and the Palestinian people are a mix of different ethnicities including that of the original Jewish inhabitants of the land who later converted to Islam voluntarily or under force.
While I certainly reject the idea that it is `just` to do what the IDF is doing, I can`t agree that anybody who is righteous and genuine in their call for peace in the region and a cessation of war waged by the IDF in Gaza and now in Lebanon, can ignore the attacks of October 7th and the merciless slaughter of Israeli civilians. You don`t have to be a history expert to know that Israel`s response would be massive and would extend into the southern area of Lebanon where Hezbollah intruded decades ago and is a hostile presence to Israel there, claiming to be there to support Palestinians among other reasons it gives.
What is going on in southern Lebanon is yet another reminder of why cheerleading for an authoritarian govt based on theocracy to push into a country like Lebanon and become the proxy army etc there, will never end well. Regardless of the whole sad history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I thought as an observer from the fortunate safety of a non involved country after the Hamas attacks on October 7th occurred that Israel would take the opportunity to do far more than just the usual retaliatory actions.
As for the two state solution, if I`m correct about a decision made in the Israel Supreme Court a few years back, there will be no moves made to do that by Israel. It has been rejected by the highest legal authority in Israel. The endgame seems to be transforming Gaza into a new Israeli settlement with coastal tourism etc a high priority. If this is factual then the western powers know that and will again accept the fact that Israel is making the displacement of non Israelis everybody else`s problem among other realities.
The endgame also seems a disturbing trend towards the making of a theocracy in Israel although I`m not discounting the very real desire of many Israelis for a secular state. The Israeli extremists who want Jerusalem only for the Jews and want to build a Temple of Herod among other strange objectives are the same kind of people attacking, sometimes fatally, the Arabic and other people in the West Bank to drive them out completely.
There is a brave and honorable Jewish rabbi assisting these people there to try and safeguard them against Jewish `settlers` from the US and elsewhere. I forget his name but try finding out this kind of information in the mainstream western media although youtube might still have that information.
You do need some study of history to understand how framing works and why starting at October 7th rather than a few years before (or even a decade before) makes no sense, though.
Israel is in the wrong (asymmetrical genocidal response). No need for layers and layers of scripts to demonstrate why when we need only look at the numbers to make the conclusion that all reasonable people either have made or owing to political inexpediency have not made but absolutely, as per similar events in the past, will make when it is not so politically hot. Genocide.
The term is "ethnic cleansing". Anyone playing politics around that term is merely ignorant. That's a matter of factual record.
I lost count of the number of times we were told earlier that neither ethnic cleansing nor land theft are the goals of the IOF.
Like we did not know how these cnuts always operate and this is our first time witnessing them.
What a piece of shit. That ridiculously random Roald Dahl line shows he can't have been of sane mind when he wrote the article.
The way that this whole sorry story should have really been told, in a way that would have been more reflective of the reality is with focus put on the Jewish people who were the first on the scenes in New York protesting against Israel's brutality; is with the Jews who were at the centre of many of the student camps; is with the many Jewish organisations who stood in solidarity with the Palestinians since before October last year.
The media could have easily told the stories of the many Jewish people who repeatedly and vociferously stand apposed to the baby killing. There is no shortage of these stories.
But the big media outlets won't tell these stories because they don't want stories about Jewish people who always show up in support of the oppressed, when it goes against the Western facing, US backed colonial outpost of Israel. And the truth is many of the most powerful pro-israel voices in the media quite clearly hate Jews. Just last week pro-Israel Donald Trump was preemptively blaming the Jews for any possible loss he may incur. And we all know about Elon. Etc.
And Jacobson doesn't want these stories out there either because it would mean he couldn't cowardly manipulate very real and rising racist hate as a shield to protect Israel and it's murderous rampage.
They published.it in the Observer as well as The Guardian. They should be ashamed, it's a thoroughly vile, one sided take that is so nauseatingly full of trite comments and not even a hint of empathy or care for the Palestinians suffering.
It stinks of superiority and barely even tries to conceal the true feelings of the clearly up his own arse so called journalist that penned the absolute load of bollocks.
Western journalism.
Howard Jacobson will never change. A myopic hack with a victim hood complex who has his head buried in bubble.
This morning in Manchester there was a gathering and I think a march for those who support Israel/Zionism.
Honestly, I was shocked by the number of people there - nothing compared to the Palestine protests - but easily 300 people+
Honestly, I was shocked by the number of people there - nothing compared to the Palestine protests - but easily 300 people+
Less about current things and more about the media coverage:
Same as with immigration. Asylum is now effectively over, and liberals celebrate it.
Same as with immigration. Asylum is now effectively over, and liberals celebrate it.
I was not familiar with him so I looked him up. He wrote a post after the Biden-Trump debate called "Why I'm sticking with Joe." Not the best instincts.
the 4th or 5th one i think. don't remember coverage for anyone other than bushnell, and even then the coverage was mostly on twitter.
I love the racism.
Non-stop massacres in the north today.
Tbf could have been the Yanks or the Brits too. Different heads of the same genocidal hydra after all.
Think it's clear to everyone by now these whole 'courteous' evacuation orders are merely a PR gimmick/obligation for them to reinforce this fallacy of them being "the most moral army in the world". In reality they bomb anyone and anywhere they please, and after killing scores of civilians they shrug their shoulders and absolve it with the whole "but we told them to move!" spiel.
There are many people who buy it, still, it's quite amazing. But I guess that's how good the mainstream media is at its job!
Yep thats precisely why they seemingly get away with it. The US regurgitates their justifications like its gospel, and the media follows suit.
