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Why are they still going with the "high risk of famine" angle? What more needs to happen to officially declare a famine?

A UN-backed assessment says almost half a million Palestinians across Gaza are still facing “catastrophic levels” of hunger and that a “high risk” of famine persists as long as the Israel-Hamas war continues and humanitarian access is restricted.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv22g81djdyo
 
I genuinely can't follow this in the same way as I was at the beginning anymore. It honestly makes me sick to my stomach. The world is already moving on to some degree. Pathetic.
 


It's really absurd they admit what is going wrong but will use mental gymnastics to justify support. The quality of politicians is truly in the gutter at the moment.
 
africanspur said:
I genuinely can't follow this in the same way as I was at the beginning anymore. It honestly makes me sick to my stomach. The world is already moving on to some degree. Pathetic.
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Same. Took a real toll on me. Last straw for me was seeing a tweet with a father holding his son and half of the skull was missing. Nowadays I avoid those tweets. I'm watching alot of Zeteo content. Mehdi Hasan has done a good job with the channel and it's very informative. I always liked him, specially when grilling Trump cronies. His segments with Bassem Youseff are very good.
 


tl;dr - benny morris in haaretz calling on bibi to nuke tehran as a preventive against further attacks on israel.
does anyone feel confident that biden would stop them on this course?
 
Morris apparently signed a letter published by a collection of Israeli academics denouncing Israeli apartheid back in August. Weird guy.
 
2cents said:
Morris apparently signed a letter published by a collection of Israeli academics denouncing Israeli apartheid back in August. Weird guy.
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His career trajectory has been really strange, really gone full circle.
 
Since the anti Palestinian thread was closed. I will post here.

 
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nothing serious, but it's always fun to look at the new realities being created in germany

 
better days ahead for bibi - his best polling in months, and 1 seat away from majority

 
berbatrick said:
better days ahead for bibi - his best polling in months, and 1 seat away from majority

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feck sake. Benny Gantz literally needed to just not do anything and then win the next election. But somehow, he decided to join Bibi's coalition, without having any responsibility, in turn tanking his reputation.
 
Edit: IN REALITY THE SECOND EXCERPT OF THIS TRANSLATION HAS BEEN HEAVILY MODIFIED TO CORRUPT BEN GVIR'S INTENDED MEANING. I apologise. I got duped because I think Ben Gvir is an odious, odious man and because I trusted an Intercept journalist would be above such crude manipulations.

It is a fact that Ben Gvir says "everything published about the vile condition of these murderers in prison was true", but here "vile conditions" is being equated with the supposed luxury and power Palestinian prisoners enjoyed prior to his tenure and not, as the journalist implies, their torture and rape.

Everything else seems a fair summary of Ben Gvir's position (intentional overcrowding, proposed executions etc).



Bolded is what the Intercept journalist left out said:
Since I assumed the position of Minister of National Security, one of the highest goals I have set for myself is to worsen the conditions of the terrorists in the prisons, and reduce their rights to the minimum required by law. This is what I committed to my constituents and to the people of Israel back in the elections, when I announced that I would demand the position.

Everything that was published about the vile conditions of these murderers was true. They ruled the prisons without question, and in the last year, before the war broke out, I waged a war of attrition. The long-awaited reform on their terms, and to realize the mandate I received from the public.
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The IDF are depraved sickos. I've been doing my best to avoid sources that document their constant atrocities to stave off the depression and yet even sticking to the big mainstream news channels I can't seem to escape the documentation of further evidence of their cruelty and depravity.

The raping of women and children, the violence and deliberate cruelty, the parading around in the underwear of dead and displaced Palestinians - there are literally thousands and thousands of these images plastered on social media documenting their own war crimes.

The atrocities are endless. You could keep posting new ones everyday and never exhaust the supply. This is not the "oopsie we pressed the wrong button and accidentally dropped a bomb on a child" bad. This is the dark depravity of perverts with military might.

This most immoral of armies exists outside the 'civil order' and are granted immunity by western governments to continue to do so. They are as much a product of the US government as they are the people of Israel.
 
Ekkie Thump said:


Just the best people.
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I'm never going to defend Ben Gvir... But his words were badly twisted. When he confirmed the 'abominable conditions' he was writing about the suppsedly decent conditions prisoners had prior to October 7. Not the treatment of them since then.
 
Amir said:
I'm never going to defend Ben Gvir... But his words were badly twisted. When he confirmed the 'abominable conditions' he was writing about the suppsedly decent conditions prisoners had prior to October 7. Not the treatment of them since then.
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Thankyou for this. You are absolutely right, I should have checked and I've modified my post.
 
I'm not sure the Intercept reporter intended manipulation, it's not easy to understand that someone would call prisoners supposedly being treated well as vile and abominable.
 
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