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Henrikh Mkhitaryan | BVB confirm transfer
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Beside the fact that he is not a midfielder you could be right. Nobody knows.
However, I believe he will be a huge success in the right set-up.
What's the story behind your tagline?
Also.. Sure is! (I dunno I'm just saying that to keep topical)
feels like a bit much, £35m for a player with one year left on his contract. BVB have done well to get that out of us. If Jose's convinced he's what he needs, then so be it though.
This. I wouldn't be too happy about signing Zlatan if we didn't have Rashford. Now it seems like a perfect match.
If Mik was still tied to a long term contract at Dortmund, we'd probably end up paying 35mil anyway, or probably even more. If signing him significantly increases our chances of getting into the CL or fighting for the title, then we should just do it.
Dortmund were well within their right to take that stand, because if the deal goes through, they then take on the burden of replacing Mik properly before their season starts. We get the player we want, and they get paid enough to make them look like clever dealers, Mik get's his dream move. it's a win win win.
Dortmund were well within their right to take that stand, because if the deal goes through, they then take on the burden of replacing Mik properly before their season starts. We get the player we want, and they get paid enough to make them look like clever dealers, Mik get's his dream move. it's a win win win.
They wouldn't have sold him if he wasn't in the last year of his contract and if they did they would want closer to £55m.
Careful! I said something silimar a few pages back and got 8 replies when I logged back in of people disagreeing
35m is a lot and those who know him better are convinced he will do well although we have heard the same thing about previous signings who ended up not doing well.
Hope he does well and is worth every penny. Judgement reserved until he actually delivers for United
Hope he does well and is worth every penny. Judgement reserved until he actually delivers for United
The entire transfer market has shifted lads, West Ham & Palace are bidding 30m+ for players, that's how strong the Premier League is now. Everton can turn down 45m for Stones, and Watford 20odd mil for Deeney.
United if you haven't noticed are simply not in a position to wait, if we were the United of 2012 we could be stronger at the negotiating table here. Dortmund have shown in the past that rather than take a cheap price, it's worth more to them to let a player run his contract down. Waiting a year is not an option for a United team that just finished 5th & has missed out on CL football and all the money it brings twice in three season. And how much do we lose from adidas if we fail to make it again this year?
Mourinho needs a stronger squad now, not next season. And who's to say the like of Madrid, Barca, Bayern won't be in for him if he's free?
Basically it's just to simple to say the price is a bit much for a player with only a year on his contract.
Finally, for 42 mio € we can afford a new chair.
When did the fee become £35m?
People still really do care about this price tag!
there is more money in football now than there ever has been so the fee's will hike and hike till something bursts. Right now the entry level for a player seems to be 30m,but people seem to have this view that 30m is top end brass. It isn't , its pennies to a club like us. I don't care if we pay 50m for Mkhitaryan as long as we actually have him in a shirt. What will actually annoy me is if we miss out for £1-2m.
30-50m will be the average this summer with possibly one or two players creeping into the 70/80m bracket (also dependent on Pogba, he could be anything close to 100m)
Bring on Henrikh , whatever the cost. If Dortmund want that little success of 'we stung the big boys' then let them, who cares really?
Open your eyes boys, we are going to spend and we are going to do with values that will make your eyes water, but don't worry about it - your personal money is unaffected
there is more money in football now than there ever has been so the fee's will hike and hike till something bursts. Right now the entry level for a player seems to be 30m,but people seem to have this view that 30m is top end brass. It isn't , its pennies to a club like us. I don't care if we pay 50m for Mkhitaryan as long as we actually have him in a shirt. What will actually annoy me is if we miss out for £1-2m.
30-50m will be the average this summer with possibly one or two players creeping into the 70/80m bracket (also dependent on Pogba, he could be anything close to 100m)
Bring on Henrikh , whatever the cost. If Dortmund want that little success of 'we stung the big boys' then let them, who cares really?
Open your eyes boys, we are going to spend and we are going to do with values that will make your eyes water, but don't worry about it - your personal money is unaffected
The last player to achieve his accolades in Bundesliga was Kevin De Bruyne. Why can't he be KDB? or are you just cynical?
It changes every few hours depending on who is reading what.
We might as well just wait for the confirmed fee before worrying about the price.
People still really do care about this price tag!
there is more money in football now than there ever has been so the fee's will hike and hike till something bursts. Right now the entry level for a player seems to be 30m,but people seem to have this view that 30m is top end brass. It isn't , its pennies to a club like us. I don't care if we pay 50m for Mkhitaryan as long as we actually have him in a shirt. What will actually annoy me is if we miss out for £1-2m.
30-50m will be the average this summer with possibly one or two players creeping into the 70/80m bracket (also dependent on Pogba, he could be anything close to 100m)
Bring on Henrikh , whatever the cost. If Dortmund want that little success of 'we stung the big boys' then let them, who cares really?
Open your eyes boys, we are going to spend and we are going to do with values that will make your eyes water, but don't worry about it - your personal money is unaffected
And next season my season ticket goes up!
Don't think I've ever seen a discussion about a new signing be so dominated by the transfer fee.
Whether we pay £26m or £35m it's hardly going to affect the rest of our business. Whether he has 1 year or 5 years left who cares? We're getting a quality player who will improve our team. When the season kicks off no one's going to give a shit about the cost, we'll be too excited about the influx of quality in the team.
Whether we pay £26m or £35m it's hardly going to affect the rest of our business. Whether he has 1 year or 5 years left who cares? We're getting a quality player who will improve our team. When the season kicks off no one's going to give a shit about the cost, we'll be too excited about the influx of quality in the team.
Actually if you take a look at the Martial transfer thread, people were talking about the transfer fee way more. People were going crazy back then and were saying the club has lost the plot, Martial will be a flop, what a pathetic transfer negotiation team, Woodward's a disgrace etc..
Just waiting for his announcement now. We have all heard multiple quotes on what his actual price is. I really don't even care anymore let's just here his announcement so I can fawn over the next transfer.
I feel the same way too but I am drawing comfort from the fact that the signings we have made of a similar nature (Kagawa and Mata) came in when our structure as a team just weren't right but as things stand I think we are in a better position to extract more from a player of this ilk. We look like we are still looking for a CM so that's more good news on that front. As of now we are more solid or looking to make our team more solid and we seem to be coming close to the conclusion that Rooney is not a N0.10 so chances of him being moved around to accommodate under-performing has-beens are slim.
To those saying we are paying too much, would you prefer Troy Deeney?
The new TV deal means 30m is is the new 15m, in the same way KDB now looks a bargain 30m will become an everyday fee for good players.
The new TV deal means 30m is is the new 15m, in the same way KDB now looks a bargain 30m will become an everyday fee for good players.
I wouldn't say 55m for KDB is a bargain. I'd say around the right sort of fee though.
Well stop saying stupid things my friend.
Mkhitaryan is a similar player and had a similar season to KDB.
If you're taking one of Dortmund's best players, you have to pay.
I also don't know where the Alabama and Amaya comparisons come from. He's a very different player to both of them.
He's bigger, much faster and stronger than both, uses both feet and a very good dribbler.
People should actually watch him before making these comments.
I also don't know where the Alabama and Amaya comparisons come from. He's a very different player to both of them.
He's bigger, much faster and stronger than both, uses both feet and a very good dribbler.
People should actually watch him before making these comments.
But he's 3 and half years older from the time of purchase (which affects the fee) and only has a year left on his contract. So £30m+ is definitively paying too much, but at this stage I just want quality players in.
We're paying half the price.
Are we paying more than what Dortmund are asking for? Otherwise I don't see how you can say its overpaying.
I'm not even sure if Mkhitaryan is a good signing. I've seen him shine in a Dortmund team, but it was only last season he's done that. He was pretty average the season prior to the last one.
He might be 3 years older but he's a top player in his peak playing for a top club who don't need to sell. This transfer was always going to be expensive, one year left or not.
@Balu @2ndTouch @OutlawGER are Bayern fans complaining about the fee paid for Mkhitaryan?
I want to find out if we are the only fanbase obsessed with fees.
I want to find out if we are the only fanbase obsessed with fees.
£26m, £50m, £100m, who gives a feck? We need players to improve our starting 11 from the current mediocrity and at the end of the day I don't care how much we spend as long as it makes us competitive. There were only 2 outcomes in this Mkhitaryan scenario. Meet Dortmund's asking price and get the player or not meet it and missing out on a player Mourinho desperately needs for his system to work.
Anyway, it will be very interesting how Mourinho sets up with Mkhitaryan. Yes, his starting position is RW for Dortmund but he does often end up very central and even drifts to the left sometimes during game. He's pretty much drifting between the 3 attacking roles behind the striker all the time.
Anyway, it will be very interesting how Mourinho sets up with Mkhitaryan. Yes, his starting position is RW for Dortmund but he does often end up very central and even drifts to the left sometimes during game. He's pretty much drifting between the 3 attacking roles behind the striker all the time.
Well, many of our previous signings under LVG which we thought would do really well were completely mismanaged. Di Maria was signed and was expected to play in a completely different way than he was used to for his whole career. What do you expect?
With the way our deals have been structured recently I suspect both the English and German press will be right in the figures they're reporting.
It's probably an initial fee of €33m rising up to €40m with performance clauses etc.
If that is the case then if we end up paying the full whack it'll mean the transfer wad a successful one and nobody will give a shit about the cost anyway.
It's probably an initial fee of €33m rising up to €40m with performance clauses etc.
If that is the case then if we end up paying the full whack it'll mean the transfer wad a successful one and nobody will give a shit about the cost anyway.
Dortmund paid £21m for him. That also has to be factored in. People act like last season is his first good season in his career.
I rate him highly. But he's not what we need.
He's a wonderful player for a confident, dominant side, but he cannot fight himself into a game when facing tough opponents. He is not one to diligently do his defensive duties.
His last year was stellar, but when Dortmund was in dire need of inspiration, facing a relegation battle, nhe failed to deliver. He was aweful. Dortmunds late run that season wasnt inspired by him.
He was also poor in thar 2nd half against Liverpool. Look how he lets the corner go past him for liverpools 3:3 equalizer. That kind of passivness under pressure will kill you in the premier league and I'm afraid that characterizes him
We need somebody to immediatly burdon with the task of taking responsibility to lead us to the top.
To me, he is more DiMaria than Cantona
He's a wonderful player for a confident, dominant side, but he cannot fight himself into a game when facing tough opponents. He is not one to diligently do his defensive duties.
His last year was stellar, but when Dortmund was in dire need of inspiration, facing a relegation battle, nhe failed to deliver. He was aweful. Dortmunds late run that season wasnt inspired by him.
He was also poor in thar 2nd half against Liverpool. Look how he lets the corner go past him for liverpools 3:3 equalizer. That kind of passivness under pressure will kill you in the premier league and I'm afraid that characterizes him
We need somebody to immediatly burdon with the task of taking responsibility to lead us to the top.
To me, he is more DiMaria than Cantona
Yes. It's like the Martial scenario. The selling club will always broadcast the maximum price as the price of the sale. Everyone here in England says the price is €32m. Dortmund are briefing that's it's €42m. The guaranteed price is probably €32m with bonuses and clauses adding up to €40/42m.
First point: Wasn't his defensive stats last season ridiculously good for an attacking player?
Second point: You could have said the same about the rest of the team, who some have moved or been linked with big moves this summer
If your looking for a Cantona, you're hoing to have a long wait. Nobody came out of Klopp's final season well, nobody. Yet Bayern have bought their captain and one of the main culprits from that season for €38m in similar circumstances.
Hmmmm..: Wonder who that could be!
And of course this lad is one of the things we need. There is no ONE player to take us back to the top.
If our problems could be fixed with 1 player it would be so easy to fix. We need improvements all around and Jose is the right man to make us great again. Mkhitaryan is a great improvement to our attacking creativity so that's a really good start.
Well thats the cafe logic isn't it? If you perform outside of England, Spain, Italy or Germany then it doesn't count. So in that sense it is his first season performing well and consistently.
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