I'm not picking on you, I promise.
I just find your humour triggers absolutely infantile. God bless.
Hazard or Griezmann... Who is the better player??
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I'm not picking on you, I promise.
I just find your humour triggers absolutely infantile. God bless.
Well what was the point of your reply in the first place?
"What was the point of your post?" - Nietzsche.
What the feck are you talking about?
Listen, two very prominent players were named in the OP and then the poster proceeded to add photographic evidence of those players, which there was absolutely no need of.
Another poster commented on that, which I found funny.
So what the feck is your problem you lunatic!?
Okay mate. Lay off the gear.
I prefer Griezmann and I'd rather have Real Madrid try to sign him instead of Hazard.
It isn't true ! Atletico didn't wait Griezmann to go to the finals of CL. They were already there in 2014 and the same they won la liga
With Griezmann they won nothing. Griezmann isn't a big games player, he was shit in the 2 finals ( CL and Euro ).
That's why at 26 he never won anything !
Ahd he's consistently scored 20-30+ goals a season ? Since 2015 yeah.
His record isn't good , he's a fraud, don't want him here.
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yeah thats fair enough- definitely a vital cog in Simone's machine
Unfortunately the only way we'll know for sure is if we do sign Griez in summer, so it's not really spouting bollocks, simply giving my opinion on who I would prefer us to sign and I think is the better player.
My fear is that Griez would struggle with the physicality of the PL and we'll be sat here next year with hazard tearing it up for Real whereas the usual Caf posts appear about an elephant in the room etc. and our bank account being £90m lighter.
Hazard was the reason we were a man down in the first place. We couldn't contain him by fair means.
This thread would be different if it was Liverpool or City linked with Griezmann.
Bless your ignorance. Griezmann plays best just off a striker and not many teams in England play the 442 that Atletico do.
Only issue might be the climate, hazard has no issues with it while I believe AG was quoted about wanting warm climate
Not sure if those quotes are true though
Not sure if those quotes are true though
Some fail to realise that the best players in the league year in year out are foreign and come from these other leagues
Griezmann is the better player. Him being linked to us doesn't really mean anything. If you ask a majority of non-United fans, they'd say the same.
He's performed in the CL and internationally at a level Hazard simply hasn't yet.
He's performed in the CL and internationally at a level Hazard simply hasn't yet.
Ive argued in favour of Hazard but would be interested to hear the non united fans view on here.
Any takers?
Got to be honest. I think many people voted for Griezmann because he's linked to us. Hazard is the better player, but Griezmann is the better striker and since we already have Mykhi (a player more similar to Hazard) it would be fantastic if could sign the frenchman.
Not sure how it's a close call. Hazard only showed himself in EPL (albeit brilliantly, and he is on course to winning his second POTY in 3 years), struggling in continental games and not showing enough for his country. Griezmann:
While I'm actually a fan of Hazard and love watching him play, he just isn't on Griezmann's level at the moment. The only skill he has on him is his dribbling, Griezmann is a better goalscorer, has better movement and workrate and his passing is seriously underrated, I think they both are on par in this component, both brilliant but not world-class playmakers.
- won La Liga player of the year in 2016 - the first player to win it apart from Messi and Ronaldo (the award exists since 2008/09)
- won Euro 2016 Golden boot and was named player of the tournament
- was voted 3rd in Ballon D'Or vote, and 2nd best player in Europe that season
- Champions League squad of the season
While I'm actually a fan of Hazard and love watching him play, he just isn't on Griezmann's level at the moment. The only skill he has on him is his dribbling, Griezmann is a better goalscorer, has better movement and workrate and his passing is seriously underrated, I think they both are on par in this component, both brilliant but not world-class playmakers.
spot on - nice post
its amazing how many posters have forgotten Hazards achievements before he joined Chelsea with titles, cups and player of the year awards.
Posters need to get out of this rhetoric that Hazard has only done it the PL.
Of course it doesnt change views on what Griezmann has done but at least give Hazard a litlle more respect about his achievements albeit they were in the French league
Posters need to get out of this rhetoric that Hazard has only done it the PL.
Of course it doesnt change views on what Griezmann has done but at least give Hazard a litlle more respect about his achievements albeit they were in the French league
Well put pal
Has to be Griezmann, do people really give that much weight to goals scored and performances put in English football? Why is Hazard scoring 11 goals this season is seen as him having a great season while Griezmann scoring 22 goals in Spain isn't? People need to realize Griezmann has been performing at a very high level for four years now, he's flown under the radar because he wasn't playing for the big two in Spain or a team which is know for its attacking. His stock has grown higher and he's become more of a household name after his performances in CL and Euros.
Also, I have to just laugh at the poster who suggested Griezmann hasn't won any individual accolade. I place much more importance in Griezmann winning La Liga player of the year award than Hazard winning PFAs POTY award simply because of the quality of players and competition in La Liga. If that wasn't enough, the guy was voted best player at Euros and also had a golden boot to show for it. He's the real deal, him being linked with us makes little difference in this regard.
Also, I have to just laugh at the poster who suggested Griezmann hasn't won any individual accolade. I place much more importance in Griezmann winning La Liga player of the year award than Hazard winning PFAs POTY award simply because of the quality of players and competition in La Liga. If that wasn't enough, the guy was voted best player at Euros and also had a golden boot to show for it. He's the real deal, him being linked with us makes little difference in this regard.
Hazard by a distance I'd say. What exactly does griezmann have? He scores goals sure, but I don't see any strong evidence from his all round play, physicality or skill set that the goals would translate between teams or leagues.
Then you must not watch him. He has some of the best movement in the world and his link-up play is highly underrated.
They translate rather well between club and country.
You joke, but there's likely to have been one smart arse to have asked which ones.
I'd take Hazard. There are very few players who can dribble and take on people the way Hazard can. I'd say Messi, Robben and possibly Neymar are the only ones as good as he is at doing it.
I like the argument that Hazard is a better player because the only thing Griezmann has on him is his goals. Well, by that logic, Hazard should be better than Ronaldo too, right? Of the last few years, at least, when Ronaldo completely forgot how to dribble.
This. His problem is just down to focus. He looks back to his best this season because Conte is a very demanding manager.
people get too swayed by aesthetics when judging a player. Hazard might be more enticing to watch but he's not better than Griezzman
He was being sarcastic, Hazard will never get those sort of numbers.
It's an old caf joke, not a serious post. Hazard can ..., if he wants too. Hazard can fly to Mars tomorrow, if he wants to.
Is this even a serious question? Griezmann obviously
Griezmann probably, even though if i had to choose a player for Bayern i would definitely take Hazard. I think he's easier to integrate into a system.
Griezmann's footballing IQ is better.
Tony G.
It's true. I'm just not seeing it though. Maybe I'll get the chance next year.