That’s fair enough, I just wanted to establish where you are coming from. You think he is playing decent at the moment, including today.
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That’s fair enough, I just wanted to establish where you are coming from. You think he is playing decent at the moment, including today.
Trouble is, they look more stupid having him on the field. Imagine, 80 million for that!
How big of a problem is he for the next manager then? Playing him every week - as we now know - is a recipe for disaster; however, would any incoming manager have the balls to immediately tell the board they want to move him on? It’s hard to imagine the board would be happy with the catastrophic loss they would make on the £80m they spent when they signed him. Plus, who would sign him and pay his wages?
We are such a meme club and its starting to hurt. Trying to press the ball from front to back is really exposing him. Its sad to see even though we all knew.
He was getting skinned literally left, right and centre today. Embarrassing decision making.
Make no mistake we'll take a fat hit on both of those things. The bigger issue with Maguire and several of these other underperforms is that we have little options behind them. Lindelof and Varane have both dealt with health issues all year at different stages. Rashford is still playin because the rapist is gone and we loaned Martial out unfortunately right before that debacle. Pogba has been hurt up until now ensuring Bruno keeps his spot. Luckily we had Dalot to bench AWB for at least.
I suspect your real name is “Centerback5”…
I do agree with you though! Uniteds defence is exposed no matter who plays (mainly due to midfield issues) BUT Maguire is BY FAR the most exposed and has the most weaknesses!
I‘m almost certainly off the fence on Maguire and now believe that he isn’t good enough.
I looked up his contract and expected four or five year contract we gave him, which is pretty much the standard and thought about how soon we can sell him. We gave him a 6+1 year contract. What the feck.
I looked up his contract and expected four or five year contract we gave him, which is pretty much the standard and thought about how soon we can sell him. We gave him a 6+1 year contract. What the feck.
I'd hope the next manager will make someone else captain, which ego aside could be a good thing for Maguire, but he isn't going anywhere, so we need to find a way of making it work.
Of course. We make him a squad player and put him on the bench.
It's pretty obvious that Maguire, captain of Manchester United, is affected by all the things that are being said about him. He looked a nervous wreck today. What a loser.
He got skinned twice today in the final third. If we faced a top side with clinical forwards that would be 2 goals conceded.
He is the poster boy for our descent into Banter & Memes FC.
I suspect yours might be Victor Lindelof given most of your posts are about himI suspect your real name is “Centerback5”…
I do agree with you though! Uniteds defence is exposed no matter who plays (mainly due to midfield issues) BUT Maguire is BY FAR the most exposed and has the most weaknesses!
Yes he was poor but the need to scapegoat one player here is way over the top. The likes of Ronaldo, Bruno, Rashford and Shaw were appalling today and far more the reason we didn't win than Maguire missing a couple of tackles against an inform striker.
Him running about cupping his ears against whatever fecking team of accountants and bricklayers England were against that week confirmed that. Aside from the absolute laundry list of problems with his actual game, he doesn't have close to the mentality required to be Man Utd captain.
But no, he's tall, so he must be a leader.
The match going fans seem to have enough of him now. Boo’s around me when his name was called out- lots of abuse and even an anti-Maguire song on the way home.
I suspect yours might be Victor Lindelof given most of your posts are about him
Yes he was poor but the need to scapegoat one player here is way over the top. The likes of Ronaldo, Bruno, Rashford and Shaw were appalling today and far more the reason we didn't win than Maguire missing a couple of tackles against an inform striker.
I don’t get this urge for people to constantly come into a player’s dedicated thread and acknowledge they were terrible, but keep protesting that the criticism does not provide a list of all poor performers. Is there only one player with a performance thread or something?
How he's gone from reading the game at a good rate, to playing like he's brainless is just beyond me.
I'll take Rio the pundit over this guy at the moment.
I'll take Rio the pundit over this guy at the moment.
If he wasn't captain and had cost £30 million, then I think we'd view him as a decent player to have about the sqaud, which is how we need to treat him long term imo, he's no captain, and he's not a £80 million player, that much is obvious now, but we're not selling him.
If can he embrace that then he could be a genuine asset, not some forced liablity the manager thinks he has to play whenever he is fit. But whatever happens we have alot more pressing issues than Maguire, the next manager just needs to make a quick decision on what to do with him, and tell him how it is.
Maybe at his best. On current form, that’s not how we’d view him. Lindelöf isn’t captain and cost £30m. The performances Maguire is putting in at the moment wouldn’t be considered acceptable if it were Lindelöf either.
Looks like he has lead in his boots he is so slow.
The captaincy and transfer fee were not his fault to be fair - but yeah, he's definitely not good enough for a top six team.
I think if the club is going to stick with him, which is likely, then a change to a back three is required because he gets isolated with a forward and gets beaten nine times out of ten.
I think if the club is going to stick with him, which is likely, then a change to a back three is required because he gets isolated with a forward and gets beaten nine times out of ten.
I know, but he is capable of been decent, unless I imagined that. It was stupid making him captian, there is nothing about him that makes him worthy other than his price tag, he needs that taking off him as soon as possible, and if he then has anything about him he'll see it as a good thing and find some form again, if he's not capable of this then it'll be a long and exepensive goodbye.
Lucky not to have conceded 2 pens and then unlucky not to score - or maybe he's just shit at heading?
Our captain is a meme
Should have been a pen, lets be honest.
This signing defines the clubs slump in the last few years. A decent PL defender for a solid mid table club for me. Would be deemed good at Villa, West Ham, Wolves for example. To Captain United, it takes a special brand of footballer. There’s no way Maguire can reach those levels. I might feel sorry for him if he wasn’t seeing £150k+ in his bank account every week!!
His tackle, his attacking & defensive heading, shooting overall has a feels of lack conviction. He has a good sense of where to position himself, but too many times, you can feel, he just closes his eyes and hope at the final split second. Very weird.
2nd clip was not a penalty at all in my opinion but it was clumsy and like the first clip it could have been one if the contact had been worse/more forceful. He looks so slow on the turn though and the fact that we have him on such a long contract and we clearly meant for him to be the future of our defence is looking like such a ridiculous decision.
Both Varane and Lindelof are very good at protecting the space behind themselves and Maguire. If we talk about types of players, who would you say is more “right partner” than any of those two?
He is not left dry; the other teams are targeting him and trying to isolate him 1 v 1. We saw this already last season. Now our coach wants all players to push higher up and it’s even easier to isolate him.
80 mill is not his fault, but with an investment comes expectations. I have higher expectations when it comes to the worlds most expensive CB compared to a 19y/o coming in on a free. Same with Varane. His performance had been great if he’s on 20 k/week. Now he’s the highest paid defender in the league and I expect more. Nothing strange with that.
In the end the most annoying thing is that he is basically unbenchable.
Liverpool - Van Dijk
City - De Bruyne
Chelsea - Thiago Silva
Utd - Maguire
People wonder why we aew now an average team
City - De Bruyne
Chelsea - Thiago Silva
Utd - Maguire
People wonder why we aew now an average team
Was good for us up until this summer. Previous criticism wasn’t fair but this season has been fairly crap and today was made to look about 40 years old. Sad day for him today
Maguire isn't our star player just cause he's the most expensive.
It could be an idea to base your expectancies on previous performances. If you taste a newly marketed chocolate bar and don’t like the taste, you should expect it to taste the same next time too, even if tou paid £5 for it and it says ‘supertasty and delicious’ on the label. It’s called learning from experience.
Opposition managers know playing through balls to an attacker going 1v1 with Maguire will always result in success. Playing to feet, Maguire has a chance, but if the attacker is on the move and taking the ball with him, Maguire is left for dead - every - single - time. It's not a secret.
Annoyed with him today. Not just because he steps up into challenges like he's a midfielder, as in, instead of trying to divert the attacker off their line, or get them to shift the ball to their weaker foot, or even just slow them down, he runs at them like a bull charging a red cape. They go around him like he isn't there. I think he had one instance today of taking the ball from the attacker, every other instance he got roasted like an under 10 player.
The other thing that pissed me off today was when Pogba was making his case to the referee, Maguire kept trying to push Pogba away and telling him to go. Maguire, telling Pogba, anything. Just feck off, Harry.
Annoyed with him today. Not just because he steps up into challenges like he's a midfielder, as in, instead of trying to divert the attacker off their line, or get them to shift the ball to their weaker foot, or even just slow them down, he runs at them like a bull charging a red cape. They go around him like he isn't there. I think he had one instance today of taking the ball from the attacker, every other instance he got roasted like an under 10 player.
The other thing that pissed me off today was when Pogba was making his case to the referee, Maguire kept trying to push Pogba away and telling him to go. Maguire, telling Pogba, anything. Just feck off, Harry.
We'd view him like we view Telles: a decent option, not a starter unless we're shorthanded.
I doubt United would buy him again for 80 mill. Salary and transfer fee will always be component when you evaluate a player. And it makes sense when you evaluate an investment.
At the moment we don’t need to look at his price tag, however. He’s simply not good enough as a starting player at United.
Captaincy needs to be taken from him...the pressure of that can be doing no good, on top of the pressure from his absolute dog shit season.
Needs time out of the team to reflect on recent performances. He’s clearly out of form and struggling so why not take him out of the firing line for a while and let him reset himself. Must be daunting for him to play at the moment.
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