I remember LVG had at least two huge clear the air talks with the players during his struggles here
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I remember LVG had at least two huge clear the air talks with the players during his struggles here
Seems like squad is not happy that Maguire kept his place after his horror shows this season. And to be honest I don’t blame them. If what Maguire has served was done by any other player, he would be out of the team.
Crazy idea, he gets a chance and actually performs?
Just give Bruno the captaincy already so we can drop this guy for a while without needing to explain why the 'captain' isn't playing
Someone mentioned to me earlier that Maguire would actually play better without the pressure of the Captains armband, like he does for England.
I imagine any new manager would be ripping the captaincy off Maguire in one of his first decisions.. since Ole don't have the courage to do it.
I'd Give it to someone who can handle the pressure and has the experience of winning trophies and is vocal on the pitch.. like Ronaldo. Not sure if De Gea or Fernandes wouldn't have the same problem as Maguire, it becoming like shackles on them. We know Ronny can handle the pressure as he's Portugal Captain.
I imagine any new manager would be ripping the captaincy off Maguire in one of his first decisions.. since Ole don't have the courage to do it.
I'd Give it to someone who can handle the pressure and has the experience of winning trophies and is vocal on the pitch.. like Ronaldo. Not sure if De Gea or Fernandes wouldn't have the same problem as Maguire, it becoming like shackles on them. We know Ronny can handle the pressure as he's Portugal Captain.
Ed really fecked this up, didn't he?
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When Maguire is fully fit and on form, he's a top class solid defender. The problem is when he's not in peak shape and just slightly off match fitness, he can look a really bad comical player. It's like he just has the 2 extremes.
I just did boss, sorry.
Maguire is decent when asked to play in a simple setup. As soon as you ask him to be part of progressive football his weaknesses are glaring. Hence why he is so good under Southgate. It's simple football.
Hehe, no maybe not, but another few months pass before we are back to where we are today.
BUT even though im not a fan at all, he is not as bad as he has looked recently. With some structure, surrounded by players performing he could be ok (still my 3rd choice). He is strong and normally good in the air, BUT with a midfield as open as the grand canyon the strikers come running full speed at him, meaning he has to turn 180^ which is a huge weak spot.
He doesn't have two extremes at all. He is poor or average. There's this absolute myth put out there by some that he was excellent last season or as you claim is 'a top class defender'. I've said this before, but really it's hard to name any performances where he's actually been very good.
when did ever United press and press properly? Never. So putting in Ronaldo is not going to make an iota of difference in the press. Bruno running around does not constitute pressing. Yes it is the coaching that is causing the huge problems but Maguire was never worth half the amount we paid for him. He is just a decent CB and nothing more.
To all those ‘My Captain’ lot after he fecking organised a team dinner, this is the captain you asked for. The metrics to judge what is a decent performance from this guy has always been skewed, he’s a worse signing than Pogba.
Can we please change the chosen profile pic?
People still don't understand that football is a team game. Yes he had some horror shock weeks but he was outstanding pretty much the whole season, despite again playing as a CB alone there in a dysfunctional team unable to defend as a unit.
Well United never pressed properly in the last 10 years, and it was never a Fergie thing anyway, and the train has gone with it, unless we get a new manager who implement the nowadays standard, we will be leaking goals more and more because average manager can do it and teams around us have more money for better players who can hurt us.
Ronaldo is a luxury signing if there was one. obviously he won't help us to play that way but we still can balance that out or rotate properly to get much better at defending as a unit, but why should Maguire be at fault for the lack of team effort which results attack after attack being send towards our goal, cutting through like nothing...
Yeah blame him for his price tag again and prove your point every game we fail as a team. Drop Pogba in as well..
He'll be a player that excel in a low block system. I understand why Mourinho wanted him, he's tall strong good in the air but slow as feck.
He'll struggle under any progressive manager that wants to play on the front foot. Playing a high line will inevitably lead to him being exposed against fast players.
Also, he's on shit form. Maybe playing him without barely any training after his injury wasn't the brightest of ideas huh?
He'll struggle under any progressive manager that wants to play on the front foot. Playing a high line will inevitably lead to him being exposed against fast players.
Also, he's on shit form. Maybe playing him without barely any training after his injury wasn't the brightest of ideas huh?
Is he slow?
I think once he hits his stride, his top speed is alright. Wasn't there some clip last season of him keeping up with Bailly in a foot race around the halfway line?
He's immobile and doesn't turn smoothly, I get that.
He's been a good/decent signing that's struggled with form on and off. Unfortunately he's going through a bad patch again, not helped by being rushed back from injury.
The decision to give him the captaincy was ludicrous though. Think he was pretty much captain straight away when Ashley Young didn't play
Welcome to the club...here's the armband.
The decision to give him the captaincy was ludicrous though. Think he was pretty much captain straight away when Ashley Young didn't play
Welcome to the club...here's the armband.That's the first time I've seen his cowardly self give an interview after a bad loss. Pogba and Shaw have faced the camera more than him during his time here.
He's clearly slow, his top pace may not be bad but his acceleration is awful.
At the end of the day I think acceleration is more important than speed.
Top speed is more important than acceleration when your argument is he can't play a high line because he's slow.
Not really for a defender, reading the game is far more important than pace. Harry rarely gets beaten for pace, his positioning isn't great at times and he's currently in poor form so as usual the vocal mob on here are pulling his game to bits. He was without doubt our best central defender last season, after a slow start.
If this is true it would explain a lot, small sided games are key to building a team.
I do understand that it's a team game. And we have been shite in front of the defense. We got Maguire to play a high line but he is a player who is not very good in playing a high line. Having Greenwood, Rashford and Martial and Bruno in front doesn't help. It's not a problem of today.
When we are compact and defending deep he is good. When we try to play open he is not good. Certainly not the way we try to play.
He is also not very experienced in playing at this level. The pressure at United is entirely different to any other club.
Hope he gets dropped until he’s 100% fit. Himself and Shaw deserve a few weeks on the bench.
I can't be the only one who can't endure to hear or read anything this guy says? All his apologizing quotes feel so cringey.
At least he’s trying to own it and admits the players need to look at themselves as well.
The ones that hide are the ones that disgust me the most.
Anyone doing interviews now is doing it because they've told. They've also been told what to say.
Best to ignore them because they're not even genuine. Bit of a slap in the face to fans to be honest.
You don't get the feeling it effects him as much as the fans. Maybe some fans feel it but it's one of the reasons I said he needs to be replaced as captain. Fans want that connection with their captain, someone with cajones to fight for the club.
Its clearly PR only. It has taken a week for the captain to come out and say he is sorry and take responsibility?
None of them feel bad about the performance, it clearly showed on the pitch. None of the players had any fight in them, otherwise we would not see such a performance.
Its clear most of these players do not have the mentality to be winners.
None of them feel bad about the performance, it clearly showed on the pitch. None of the players had any fight in them, otherwise we would not see such a performance.
Its clear most of these players do not have the mentality to be winners.
He’s the captain and he literally says the most cliche repetitive stuff. Do you feel like he’s the man to motivate the rest of the team, to take lion’s share of responsibility, to perform when others fall short? Maybe I’m expecting too much from the captain but it doesn’t help our case that the armband is on a guy completely out of form yet still always in XI (gosh, my captain shall always play, no?) and a lad that comes across as very uncharismatic.
He's always doing these types of interviews and other players too, "I'm sorry" blah blah.
They're just not good enough, it's a broken record. Sick of hearing it so I just scroll past the rubbish now. Do better and keep your mouth shut until then.
They're just not good enough, it's a broken record. Sick of hearing it so I just scroll past the rubbish now. Do better and keep your mouth shut until then.
And? Do you think this new interview is voluntary?
He said he is sorry and took responsibility straight after the match, not that its really worth much, but it didn't take a week.
There's enough to complain and crticise about the team and the players right now, we don't really need to be making stuff up.
So much hatred and slagging Maguire off on here at the moment. Most of it uncalled for IMHO, he has had a few bad games like most of the players around him, he was thrown into the team unfit by his manager and all of a sudden he is a waste of money, waste of space, a poor captain etc.
He isnt the most mobile player, we know that, we didnt buy him for his searing pace. He didnt choose the price tag...that was the club.
He was an ever present for 2 seasons and prob had 2 or 3 bad games in that time...how many bad games has Bruno AWB or Rashford had in that time? All 3 of these have been atrocious in back to back games for long periods and pull out a wonder goal or a last ditch slide tackle and all is forgiven.
Removing his captaincy is not the answer, we need him to have a good run alongside Varane and give the guy a bit of respect.
He isnt the most mobile player, we know that, we didnt buy him for his searing pace. He didnt choose the price tag...that was the club.
He was an ever present for 2 seasons and prob had 2 or 3 bad games in that time...how many bad games has Bruno AWB or Rashford had in that time? All 3 of these have been atrocious in back to back games for long periods and pull out a wonder goal or a last ditch slide tackle and all is forgiven.
Removing his captaincy is not the answer, we need him to have a good run alongside Varane and give the guy a bit of respect.
Don't listen to him then. Simple
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