What a complete crock of ball bags. Our best central defender last season. Off form and brought back very quickly from an injury that was going to keep him out a lot longer than it did, this season. He was dominant in the air tonight and controlled in everything he did.
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What a complete crock of ball bags. Our best central defender last season. Off form and brought back very quickly from an injury that was going to keep him out a lot longer than it did, this season. He was dominant in the air tonight and controlled in everything he did.
I feel sorry for you fella if this is what you are seeing. He’s a constant disaster and most of our team’s problems start with him. We will never ever win anything with him in the team and having him as captain compounds the problem. He’s too slow, can’t play a high line, can’t make a decent pass under pressure, can’t dominate aerially, can’t pick up a man from set pieces, doesn’t communicate with his teammates, doesn’t show any emotion or other leadership qualities. Other than that he’s OK.
I’d say I’ve a better appreciation of the game then you, so I won’t worry about your opinion.
He's probably the most aerially dominant CB in the world. Maybe you've been watching Tobey Maguire?
Showed signs of life today. Still at times went for a wonder and got lost but Varane and Lindelof did a good job of calling him back in but he did seem to be reading things a lot better but I guess his positioning is just something that will always be an issue. It’s just made worse by his slow feet.
That call he made when he left Locelso to track the runner was a top bit of play.
That call he made when he left Locelso to track the runner was a top bit of play.
I agree with you, by the way.
Wasn't great still despite us doing everything we can to be defensively sound and Spurs being every bit as bad today as we were against Liverpool. I'd like to see a back four with Lindelof and Varane given a go.
Weird. Even for a Westmeath head.
I’ve long been a defender of Maguire and while I think he’ll come back into form and be a good player for us again I think he needs to be replaced as captain. He does little to inspire as the face for project Ole and Keane was right to criticise his interviews. He come across as defensive, meek and unimpressive. I think it would be better for him to keep him out of that kind of spotlight because he isn’t cut out for it. Bruno or Ronaldo would better fit the role.
Platitudes and barren words
All the Harry defence team mobilised as usual. It’s just bizarre that people can’t see how useless this guy is. Not going to argue, there’s clearly some kind of mental block at play. I know you guys have invested a lot in supporting Harry but sooner or later the reality will dawn on you.
Thanks for the link. It looks very promising for the future whilst alarming for the time up to now as we really should have already been on the case. There are so many areas that it can benefit the team and individual players.
I don't think it's an effort to not be negative. I don't think he's the most intelligent manager out there, but I also don't think he's a child, which he'd have to be to cater to players softness like that.
Looked a lot more comfortable with Varane helping him out, but I still don't think he's ultimately good enough, at least not to be a nailed-on starter, let alone team captain.
3 at the back help him tremendously. Knowing he has cover he can come out of the defense for the ball or with the ball. Go for the long balls from GK and know he has enough cover even if he misses it. His lack is pace isn't an issue here.
You should worry, he's spot on and you have absolutely no 'appreciation of the game' if you can't see Maguire as absolutely woeful. He's the worst player in this team by a mile.
Completely agree. I don't dislike the guy but am getting extremely frustrated that he remains in the team and remains our captain despite quite obviously being our biggest problem along with the DM position. Even if we had a world class DM we'd still need 5 at the back if Maguire remains in the team. He's so often caught out of position and repeatedly makes mistakes that pulls the rest of the defence out of position due to having to cover the gaping spaces he leaves for the opposition. It's painful to watch.
What we've learned is that nothing in terms of performances will ever threaten Maguire's place in the starting 11
Looking better because we’ve sacrificed an attacking player & had to put one of the worlds best CBs in to babysit him is hardly him turning a corner. Looked better yesterday but the formation is there cover weaknesses in the team not play to its strengths.
I have no need to worry, your opinion isn't correct nor important.
I doubt Tobey Maguire would get caught out so many times at set pieces. Seriously “most aerially dominant CB in the world”??
The level of delusion in the Harry camp is just eye watering at times.
Another player who needs some rest. Varane and Lindelof should be able to cope with Atalanta while Harry gathers himself for City three days later.
Which means nothing if you're absolute shite at heading which Harry Maguire is
Piss off with turning every disagreement into "camps" and calling others delusional because they watch games and have eyeballs.
Read the first page of this thread and tell me which camp I'm in exactly.
He is. Won 84% of his aerials in the euro, the highest percentage ever recorded for a CB. You clearly have never watched a United game if you think Maguire is bad in the air. He's so good at it, it's blatantly obvious and all the stats confirm it. Maguire has issues but you have to be some WUM to deny he is insanely big and strong.
Wrong, for a defender just winning out in the aerial duel means everything. Having good aim is a bonus and yes Virgil and Ramos are better at aiming it, that's hardly something to criticize Maguire for. For someone that's supposedly shite at it, he scores quite a lot of headers.
Maguires official PL stats 20/21
Duels won203
Duels lost105
Aerial battles won135
Aerial battles lost43
for comparison Dias last season:
Duels won111
Duels lost78
Aerial battles won62
Aerial battles lost39
This is such a myth. Maguire has been a pro footballer for almost 10 years and he's scored 17 headed goals in that time period. Most of those goals came when he was still playing in the Championship. If you include this season's goals he only has 6 EPL headed goals to his name
Talking about winning duels ignores the important duels that Harry misses out on, specifically the free headers in our box from which we concede lots of goals. These are duels that he should be contesting but instead he is out of position rooted to the spot.
If he really was the best aerial defender or whatever you said he was, we would not be leaking goals at our current rate.
I agree he is very big and does not look like a professional footballer.
Atalanta 2:2 Man Utd
Utter shite. Has to be dropped.
Crap.
At various points he decided that "moving" isn't an essential part of football.
At various points he decided that "moving" isn't an essential part of football.
Embarrassing defender and an embarrassing captain.
Absolute shambles. Moving like he was towing a caravan
You shouldn't be captain when you're one of the worst players costing the team week in week out. Said the same with Ashley Young.
Strip him of the captaincy already and give it Ronnie or Burno.
Strip him of the captaincy already and give it Ronnie or Burno.
What’s happened to him. Fallen off a cliff. Putting in some of the worst performances I’ve ever seen this season. Must be a Euro hangover surely?
Continuing to pick him is a sacking offence in its own right. He’s cost us about 8 goals in two weeks. We used to have captain marvel now we have captain mediocre.
He should've been dropped for Spurs and tonight, but now there are no alternatives so he'll be in the team for City. He's absolutely useless. I don't understand how he's still captain or in the team.
He's pure crap
Shocking.
Sell him to the glue factory
World class at sticking his hand up for offside, everything else - rubbish.
One of the worse signings we've ever made.
One of the worse signings we've ever made.
He’s been terrible for a while now. If he wasn’t captain he’d be dropped.
Unrecognisable from last season.
Drop him. Even with no fit CBs, we'd be better off.
There’s no wonder players who’ve been benched for less are now leaking things to the press when this man gets to play every game with no consequence.
A terrible signing, was never worth the outlay & horrendous limitations.
A terrible signing, was never worth the outlay & horrendous limitations.
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