Martial on the left and starter if Zlatan or Kane needs rotated rested injured etc.
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Martial on the left and starter if Zlatan or Kane needs rotated rested injured etc.
Rashford 4th choice. Pl
A club buys top players to improve results (and maybe sell more t-shirts).
As such I think that the best way to improve our results is to change manager. After this is done and we are getting in top 3, we can look at getting elite level strikers, to push us towards the title.
I just feel that getting Kane this Summer (for c. £100m) would be a waste.
As such I think that the best way to improve our results is to change manager. After this is done and we are getting in top 3, we can look at getting elite level strikers, to push us towards the title.
I just feel that getting Kane this Summer (for c. £100m) would be a waste.
I don't think they would sell at £100m.
If we could get him for that, I'm quite sure we would.
Exactly the profile of player we need and should have.
If we could get him for that, I'm quite sure we would.
Exactly the profile of player we need and should have.
I don't even know if £120m would cut it.
Why sell?
He would come though. Simply as he could expect to make 3x as much money here.
Why sell?
He would come though. Simply as he could expect to make 3x as much money here.
Tottenham will sell for the right price. It will probably be big, but if it makes sense, we will pay.
It would have to be an insane amount. Levy is telling the truth when he says he'd rather not sell the best players. It just doesn't benefit them. There is this lazy myth that they use the money to improve their squad, but if anyone takes the time to see how their big transfer money was actually spent, rather than cherry picking successful buys, that weren't actually bought with that money, then they'd see what Levy is talking about. It simply doesn't benefit Spurs to sell their big name players, even for vast sums, as it's so damn difficult to replace them. None of, Carrick, Berbatov, Modric or Bale were bought with funds they wouldn't have had if it wasn't for previous deals. The simple fact is, if we gave them £100 million for Kane, they'd struggle to spend that money in a way that gives them as much as Kane's goals do.
A bit off topic here but I am not a big fan of Zlatan and I am surprised to see that there is even a debate going on regarding whether we should get in Kane or Zlatan. Kane (if possible/available) should be a no brainer.
Zlatan was decent (read not great) at Inter when Barcelona possibly went ahead with the worst deal of the century for Zlatan. At Barca he was frozen out and went to Milan on loan (did not set the league on fire). His next season at Milan was definitely a success after which the transfer to PSG happened.
With his age and weak work rate, it'll be a Berbatov situation all over again. To add, he has not performed well in a strong league either.
Zlatan was decent (read not great) at Inter when Barcelona possibly went ahead with the worst deal of the century for Zlatan. At Barca he was frozen out and went to Milan on loan (did not set the league on fire). His next season at Milan was definitely a success after which the transfer to PSG happened.
With his age and weak work rate, it'll be a Berbatov situation all over again. To add, he has not performed well in a strong league either.
Totally disagree. Rashford has proved he is good enough to be part of the main squad next season. And Martial is on track to be France's #1 striker. The next Henry etc. Why buy a striker that is also young and inexperienced. Unless we play with two strikers, spending 60 odd million on Kane make no sense. Ibrahimovic is currently better than him as well and would cost nothing.
If football was due to end in 2018 that might make sense.
I cant see Spurs selling Kane nor him wanting to leave Spurs just yet. Especially with them in the champions league
And to add to the devil's advocate line here. We have Rashford, Martial and Wilson on the books. Even Keane it can be argued. Why not bring in an experienced player to for them to learn from as they get ready to be the main men for the club in a few years? Rather than a young man like them who could become first choice for ages and never let them fulfill their undoubted potential? Just a thought. If Kane is gettable though its gonna be too hard to resist
Ibrahimovich will turn 35 when the season starts so he'll be an old man in a fast paced league. Short term at best. You say why buy Kane for 60 mill when we got Martial to play CF in the future? Its this weak attitude that I hope United never adopt as it will hold us back from the true great sides. Barcelona had Messi who can score 40 goals as a striker, but not stopping there, they bought Neymar for £60 mill. Now you would've thought that would be enough, especially as Neymar has proven a better CF than Martial already. But NO, Barcelona then went and spend £60 mill on Suarez, when Neymar he had scored over 100 goals as a CF already. Surprise surprise, they now have the BEST attack in football history and is the principle aspect that separates them from EVERY other team. We need to be ruthless. Get the best attackers that are available and make it work. Neymar plays CF and is Brazils top scorer. big deal as he is effective on the LW for Barcelona. Martial may well become a CF for France, but so what? He can emulate Neymar as a LW for United.
Ibrahimovic has said that his best years are to come. Pace doesn't affect his game and he is so confident, I doubt he would take on a challenge he wouldn't be fit for. Come on, ur comparing Kane to Neymar and Suarez??? I think Martial will be a better player at 22 than Kane currently is.
You are living in lala land if you think a player of Kane's profile can be signed from a top 4 PL team for "£60m odd".
They would reject £100m in a heart heart. I'm not even convinced they would sell for £120m.
Why bother? How can you replace his goals? About half of all transfers are flops and the PL teams do not need cash.
Considering you're mentioning Barcelona as the benchmark to emulate, it's kinda weird that you prefer Kane over Ibrahimovic, considering Ibra is easily the better player. Also there is no chance that Harry Kane will be only 60 million pounds.
You are living in lala land if you believe that's all there is to a transfer. If Kane is offered a far bigger wage that Spurs can't match and is very unsettled, Spurs would be forced to sell at a reasonable enough price. If what you say is true, nobody would get sold.
"why would he leave spurs, which is on course to becoming the best club in england?"
Edit: though I do agree that kane isn't going anywhere next summer.
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It's wishful thinking to imagined that he'd be "very unsettled" ... indeed it's hard to think of a more settled player in the whole Prem. He's at club he really likes, where he's been a very long time, on a long contract (one that will no doubt soon be re-issued on higher wages than currently), with a settled and very good manager, and with most likely CL football to look forward to next season.
And on top of this Levy simply won't sell him ... much less sell him to a Prem rival. It's not just than Spurs don't need the money (although money is always handy,especially with a new stadium to finance), it's also that Kane is integral to both the team and to Levy's search for improved sponsorship deals. In any case, there would be total uproar from Spurs fans were he to be sold now.
If there's one transfer this summer which is a total non-starter from top to bottom then this is it.
I agree, but I think that train has departed. We needed to get him before he made that step-up season. On a 40k "see the potential in this lad" type of deal before he had the breakout last season and nobody would have rolled the dice then. Not saying we shouldn't go for him now but I think it will be futile unless he is willing to forgo Champions League football next season and lets face it, the logic dictates that not one of Leicester or Tottenham players will want to leave before playing in the Champions League next season. Regardless of where they both finish they will more than likely have CL footy and it Leicester win the league then they will be playing all of their games next season literally dragging the fanbase around hanging off their shorts trying to get it in their mouths. I don't really see anyone from either team leaving. There logically would be no real reward as both setups aren't really driven by one world class player or star that will depart (a la Bale a few seasons ago). It is a collective unit and you'd be silly to place bets on them breaking up their squad before the CL next season.
Spot on. There is zero chance this will happen there really is no point at all in there even being a thread on it. By all means we can discuss him as a player but out of all the targets we may have, Kane would be up there with trying to sign Messi, entertaining the idea at this moment in time would be a complete waste of time.
Even the biggest transfer muppet amongst us must realise this is incredibly unlikely. My brother in law is a Spurs fan and he ompletely agrees that there is no reason at all for him to leave Tottenham and he isn't worried about or apparent interest. The only reason he would leave would be in a few years time if they aren't challenging and getting in to Europe but with Pochettino there I think the safe bet is they will be. He has built a quality team and Kane is integral to that. Levy would also simply never sell unless he forced a move which unlike Berbatov, ain't gonna happen.
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I don't know how many times I've had to say this. Zlatan is 35 and we have no idea how a player in the twilight of his career will adjust to the step up of the premiership and for how long? We'll we do have an idea, and it's not usually positive. If you think Zlatan is gonna have it as easy as in ligue 1, then that's your business. I feel Zlatan will be in for a shock like Schweinsteiger. Kane is 23 and is back to back top scorer in the division. Sound investment. Makes far more sense
This isn't the time to sign Kane. Spurs could be PL champions this summer, and most definitely will be in the CL next season. Next summer is much more likely. Let's see where Martial is at that point with regards to his best position. Till then Ibra will do just fine.
We're all aware of Zlatan's age but I also know that Zlatan is a rarity when its come to performance relative to age. He's a freak of nature considering his performance level at this age, and he's showing no signs of slowing down. His athletic decline has been minimal and he's actually having one of his best ever seasons right now (36 goals, 14 assists in 39 appearances). He's not going to have it as easy he does in the Ligue 1, but let's not make the mistake of overrating EPL, which isn't as strong as it used to be. Also, I don't get the comparison of Zlatan to Schweinsteiger, they're very different situations. Schwieni's fitness issues and physical decline are on a different level than Zlatan, despite him being 3 years younger than Zlatan. All that shows is that not all players decline in the same way. Schweini was already struggling with fitness issues well before we signed him, that's why we knew it was a risk.
Kane is a really good player but it's incredibly difficult to go after him this summer. It's just not the right time; Spurs will finish above us, we might not even have CL, and Spurs will want a record fee for him regardless (Levy won't even want to sell him to us). That's why Zlatan works as a short term solution on a 1 or 2-year deal as a FREE transfer, and after 1-2 years, we can go after Kane. Zlatan comes in and instantly makes us title contenders in the league. That makes far more sense.
Kane is going nowhere this summer.
Eventually - in a season or two - Spurs will have to break their wage structure and business model if they are to keep him.
He is already a £250k a week performer. But he's not getting a quarter of that.
He is already a £250k a week performer. But he's not getting a quarter of that.
Agreed. Would need a Spurs capitulation in European places too for next season to open up the possibility of an English club transfer.
Would be tempted in placing a bet that he's the next major British player that ventures abroad.
He is the complete forward. He has everything, and he's probably not purchasable anytime soon.
Well at least not for under 100M €.
I've been saying it for a while Levy is already thinking world record fee.
Well if anything is happening if has to be before the Euros because its going to get even worse after the competition.
Proving everyone wrong who thought he was a one season wonder (especially me). Was great last year but has improved so much in his overall game this season as well.
His allround game was really good last year, you could notice his holdup play, and ability to play with his back to goal straight away.
Top player. Spurs are lucky, they have a lot of young talent to anchor their side around for the next decade if they play their cards right.
Really top class performance today. Before the goal he was sub par but after it he felt like he belonged on the stage and started to own it. Pleased for him.
Kane and Vardy together... would be a dream at this point 
fair enough
Well then that reaffirms my point. No point in trying to sign him.
I am sure Madrid will come snooping around once their transfer ban is lifted. Really improved in the last two seasons and is now a proper striker unlike the U-20 World Cup three years back where i was thinking what striker is this who can't run or shoot.
Don't think Kane is leaving this summer, and even if he was, there is almost zero chance of him moving to another PL team. The only time Woodward should spend on this transfer, if he really wants to, is to quickly bid 120M just to see if Levy even bothers to respond (which he won't so Woodward should then quickly move forward and forget about Kane).
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