He's bulked up a bit in the past year, hasn't he?
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The Hurricane could be the saviour that we need. With our marketing ability, fanbase and merchandising contacts Worldwide his brand could become as big as any player.
Even if we aren't what we once were, we have the finances to turn his head.
A guy who is around 35, coming to a faster more physical league for the first time?
Or a guy over 10 years younger who is coming off 2 great seasons in this league already.
Yeah it's hard to see why people would favour Kane
That's a silly way of simplifying it, excluding circumstances that don't suit your agenda (the fact it would be a headache to buy Kane while Zlatan is free). Zlatan has played in multiple leagues around Europe, and is proven on every level, including international. He also keeps himself in great shape and hasn't really shown physical decline yet. Also, I didn't say that it's ridiculous that people would prefer Kane over Ibra, I think it's a reasonable view to have. I was being called ridiculous for stating that I'd rather have Zlatan this summer. A 35-year-old Zlatan would probably still be the best player in the EPL if he came to England.A guy who is around 35, coming to a faster more physical league for the first time?
Or a guy over 10 years younger who is coming off 2 great seasons in this league already.
Yeah it's hard to see why people would favour Kane
We don't need him. Martial and Rashford need to be given game time up front. Kane is only a few years older. I think Ibrahimovic would be a good addition. He is a brilliant striker and he could help Martial and Rashford develop. He also won't be here long enough to hamper their first team chances.
Totally agree. We could have a world class player for free. Ibra would play 1 season (or 2) for us and then we could go for Kane. I think it is a good opportunity for him to play the Champions League next season.
If we do well next year, we can attract top players like Dybala who could play in a front of 3 with Martial and lets say Dembele.
Getting Kane this summer will be off-the-charts difficult and expensive.
Ibra on the other hand may be very gettable and could be an excellent short term free transfer. He is still at the top of his game and has already scored 377 club goals around the top divisions of Europe. That's only 2 fewer than Shearer's total.
Ibra on the other hand may be very gettable and could be an excellent short term free transfer. He is still at the top of his game and has already scored 377 club goals around the top divisions of Europe. That's only 2 fewer than Shearer's total.
So Harru getting a whopping pay raise that will net him 100k a week. Doesn't seem right to me. The boy is worth twice that. Spurs better hope he'll take that (which he probably will). With the new stadia they can't really pay him those gaudy sums, but plenty can.
I don't see why he would want to move tbh and not really overly fussed by him. I think he's flourishing in a system set up for him to profit from. That and he shoots from absolutely anywhere and everywhere. Good player, but I'd prefer Ibra.
Kanes a good young forward but I also back the talent we have. Ibrahimovic working with Keane, Wilson, Rashford etc. Keane and Wilson were as good as Kane at youth level. We've had some good forwards down the years who didn't make it but we've got good potential here and that money I feel needs to go on a central defender, mid and right winger. Lukaku would be another very good option mind you. So we're not starved of options. It would take nearly a whole summer to get Kane. Not worth the hastle unless we tap him up.
I really like Kane
Early in the season when he went through a poor spell it didn't seem to affect him at all - he still looked the same player and his head didn't drop
He would be a very good signing but it depends on where we see Martial/Rashford playing
I think it's a pointless discussion though as I doubt he wants to leave and there is zero chance I see Spurs selling up
Early in the season when he went through a poor spell it didn't seem to affect him at all - he still looked the same player and his head didn't drop
He would be a very good signing but it depends on where we see Martial/Rashford playing
I think it's a pointless discussion though as I doubt he wants to leave and there is zero chance I see Spurs selling up
Are you being serious? Kane is a certainty to be England number 1 goalscoring striker. The next Rooney, Owen or Shearer. Rashford is still an uncertainty. Martial may turn out a winger in the end. It would be insane to not go for Kane. Hes a GUARANTEED top scorer year on year and is still young. I don't see the logic that we can't sign Kane because then he gets in the way of Rashford. Rashford is still a hot and cold youngster and I would like him to go on loan to a premier league side if we did get Kane. Fact is Kane is a certified star, who is English, marketable, probably won't wanna go to Madrid etc
I was skeptical of him last season didn't want to get on the hype train. This season, I've taken my time to watch him and I have to say this guy is the real deal. He has everything. Even when he wasn't scoring p, I was very impressed with his all round play. Too bad I can't see this happening.
Martial, Kane and a new right sided pacy forward/winger as s front three would transform our attack. Rashford and Mephis could easily be rotated in to ensure plenty of game time too.
Agreed. Rashford has it all to prove I'm afraid. You don't forgo the signing of a top class forward because your 18 year old rookie MIGHT become top class.
If Rashford is good enough he'll push himself into the reckoning regardless of who we sign.
Fact is though Ibra is better than him though and we can get him on a free. I wouldn't be upset if we signed Kane, but it would be a waste of money considering Ibra is free.
Who was the last 34 year old striker who did well in the EPL in his debut season there?
Huh? You do realise that Ibra is 34-35 and Kane is 22-23? Ibra is at the end of a career scoring 30 goals per season, Kane is at the beginning of a career scoring 30 goals per season. If they were of similar ages and we could get similar length of service then sure. But Ibra might only have 1 season left in him in this league irrespective of how "good" he feels or how he keeps himself in shape. It's a different ball game when they actually play.
The last thing we need is another old striker upfront whose best years are behind him and who has no experience of the EPL whatsoever. Lets learn something from Falcao, Pato and Sheva for once. Having said that, while I don't mind us signing Kane we really can't afford him. He would cost 60m and we've got so many positions to fill that are far more important (mostly because we do not have the promising talent there that we've got upfront). Id say lets strengthen the flanks with a winger whose capable to do well upfront (Griezmann?) and if Rooney/Rashford/Martial/Wilson fail to deliver we move him upfront.
I have to admit I was pretty much the same I underestimated his overall game for a fairly long time. I certainly wouldn't mind us going for him but I'm a bit skeptical that we will be able to get him atm.
I don't think we stand a chance of getting Kane and if we did levy would demand something crazy like 100m for him
You know what though, I say Feck Levy and Feck Kane if he'll cost £100 million. We shouldn't have to sign overpriced English players any longer. Kane is great and all but there is always going to be a Lewandowski, Neymar, Suarez, etc who can do the role for a cheaper price. Just got to have a good recruitment network.
We could actually get players like aubameyang or griezmann for cheaper than what Kane would cost.
Yes, also Kane has played in the worst two seasons of the Prem, in terms of quality; they both have positive and negatives. Not to mention Kane would cost north of 50m.
He's proved on most leagues he's played in, including the international stage, he's good enough to do well in the prem. Also, judging on this season, I doubt you can say historical data is anything to go on. I'm not saying he's also the answer to our problems, if you weigh up between him and Kane, one is better and cheaper. The "prem proven" argument is a bit tiresome and doesn't hold much water these days.
He's been playing in the richer version of the Scottish league for 4 years now. The EPL is a different cup of tea to the French league. And United is in a different situation to PSG
You could get Kane and Ibra.
4-4-2 like Mourinho did at Inter.
4-4-2 like Mourinho did at Inter.
1)Still higher quality than Ligue 1.
2) For how long? When the season starts he turns 35. Look how quick RVP went from top scorer 2 seasons in a row to surplus.
3) again for now, which could be 1-2 seasons max. Kane will top score in the premier league for 7+ seasons so its a sound investment. He could easily do a Shearer (ok more like and Andy Cole) but still
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Still knocked out the team who won our league last season and will probably do the same with City. The French league is better than that.
Anyone of any quality in Ligue 1 gets snapped up by the premier league. We saw it last year with Kante and Payet; the leading assister got snapped up by West Ham!
1) He still is a better striker
2) Agreed, I don't know for how long, but RVP also won us a league and I'd be more than happy to see the same influence he had. It's not as if we take him on we can't buy another younger striker or see one of our youth players come through (ie Rashford, etc)
3) There is absolute 0 guarantee Kane will do that. As much guarantee that Ibra will be good.
So you're just saying there's premier league standard players in Ligue 1, really. I think that proves more of the quality of Ligue 1 and the money in the Prem rather than the Prem is better
Don't think he's in any hurry to leave Spurs. Seems to excel in the role as the main man there and from an interview I saw with him seems very much a London man who likes to have his family close. Plus this is probably the best time to be a Spurs player in like 50 years.
Not really
There are no guarentees in life except death and taxes. Yet 2 seasons in a row Kane is smashing in the goals in an unspectacular team so it looks likely.
I am not against buying Ibra of course! I just don't see why you compare the 2 signings as if they will give us the same thing. one is 35 and may last no time at all. They other is 23 and currently top scorer in THIS league we want to win, 2 seasons in a row.
No it shows that any decent player they have in ligue 1 gets snapped up faster than you can say "voila". The French performance in europe is even worse than ours.
If you were him, would you consider a move to Chelsea? bare in mind, they have next level prospects to tight ass Spuds and he could replace Costa.
I'm really not doubting Kanes quality btw, I just don't think you would ever pay more than 30-40m for that anywhere else and the last two league seasons have been abject. I am sceptical if our league goes back to the quality of before, he will do as well as to justify a 50m+ fee. I think if you do some very basic and probably flawed maths, Ibra on 250k a week plus a signing on fee would be about 16m for a season and Kane would be his astronomical fee plus wages of about (for arguments sake) 56m. We would have substantially less money to address positions we really need for this next season.
I think the unspectacular team comment is a bit unfair, they do have a very well rounded team, with some very talented players (Alderwerield, Eriksen, Lamela, Alli, Kane) that have started to be more consistent against the back drop of a poor league.
On the whole, yes, it's an inferior league, but it's not a million miles away as you'd believe considering the amount of money that comes into the league.
Anyway, I've digressed the topic. I do definitely see your argument for, I'm just not fully convinced by him to take a 50m+ bet on him
But it's still stronger than any league Ibra has played in other than possible one season in La Liga, where he didn't do great. We all know our top teams aren't doing well, but I'd say the rest of our league is the strongest it's ever been and on a totally different level to Serie A, Erevdise and Ligue 1 has been during Ibra's career. I think there is a tendency to judge leagues of their European competition form, but that doesn't tell us much at all about the strength of the league in depth. I'm not saying Kane is better than Ibra, but that you can't use the argument of the strength of the league where Kane is being successful, in order to promote Ibra, as the exact same argument can be used against him, only to a greater degree. Ultimately, until he moved to Ligue 1, he'd only ever had 2 seasons where he'd got over 20 league goals. Kane has already done that and even though it's not the strongest Prem, it's still much stronger than the league Ibra did it in.
And where does that leave Marital, Rashford and Rooney? (Assuming the latter isn't going to be sold this summer).
I think they are most certainly unspectacular when you consider premier league title challengers of the past. Those players could have easily been squad players in past Chelsea, United and City teams (City players have aged). All except Kane and maybe Eriksen.
Serie A was a stronger league in 08-09 (when he had his best season) than the Prem now and we knocked out Inter from the CL, when we had arguably one of our best ever teams! Also Ibra offers more than just a goal scorer. Kane hasn't played a proper season competing on all fronts against teams of the highest quality. I think Harry Kane has only proved himself in the Prem, which by everyone's standards, has been poor for the last two years. If he does the business at the Euros, maybe it will be worth thinking about the gamble, but you know Ibra will do the business there. I'm not sure of the scepticism of someone who's clearly a great player.
Yeah, when you put it like that, you're right. Off topic, I think Eriksen won't ever reach his potential being so inconsistent.
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