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Unfortunately, can't see him leaving Spurs in the near future, especially not when they'll be in the CL and we won't be (most likely). They'll finish above us anyway. Best option is to sign Ibra for a year or 2, get back to the top, and then buy Kane from a position of strength when we've re-established ourselves as the top dogs in England. But obviously it's a no brainer, would be perfect to have him and Martial as part of a front 3 (with whoever else on the right).
 
Yep, looking at some of the comments - you do get the impression that United's stature in the game is getting underrated by a significant margin. There's a ceiling to what Kane can achieve with Tottenham - both on the field, and in terms of tangential benefits - and I don't necessarily mean to offend Spurs fans either (unlike them taking potshots at United with steadily increasing frequency - much like snide, opportunistic rodents basking in their 5 seconds of fame under the sun - for the second time in three seasons, unfortunately). They're a good club in fairness to them, but the Premier League equivalent of a Valencia. Whereas United are in the Barcelona/ Juventus class (or thereabouts) - a blip or two in a transition phase might diminish that aggregate historical status a bit, but calls for a terminal decline are premature - just like they were with those clubs when they suffered in the early 2000s/ post Calciopoli respectively. Whether he eventually moves (to United, or somewhere else) remains to be seen, and maybe he'll be a lifer for Tottenham (who knows?) - but the fact remains that once United get their house in order, we'll be an extremely attractive proposition - regardless of new stadiums and whatnot (it's still not an Old Trafford or Santiago Bernabéu, is it?).

Rooney is the 5th richest player in world football. Is it because he is good looking? Is it because he is charismatic? Is it because he is the best player in the world? Or is it because he has been United's star striker for 12 years.

Even Schweinsteiger saw himself shoot to near the top of the shirt sales chart when he signed for United and he played for Bayern FFS!
 
He often talks about how he's a Spurs lad. Can't see him leaving right after their best ever campaign. Levy would rather sell the stadium.
 
Check out his performance tonight on MOTD. 2 goals (beautiful finish for the second) and an assist. Great player.
 
How do you fit Kane in alongside attackers like Martial, Rashford and Memphis? He's a class act and I'd love him here but I don't see where he fits? Would prefer to see the money spent on Griezmann and a cracking right sided player.
 
He often talks about how he's a Spurs lad. Can't see him leaving right after their best ever campaign. Levy would rather sell the stadium.
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He'd cost us 100mill at this rate. Half the Caf didn't want him last summer, may have been a one season wonder or something. :wenger:
 
Yep, looking at some of the comments - you do get the impression that United's stature in the game is getting underrated by a significant margin. There's a ceiling to what Kane can achieve with Tottenham - both on the field, and in terms of tangential benefits - and I don't necessarily mean to offend Spurs fans either (unlike them taking potshots at United with steadily increasing frequency - much like snide, opportunistic rodents basking in their 5 seconds of fame under the sun - for the second time in three seasons, unfortunately). They're a good club in fairness to them, but the Premier League equivalent of a Valencia. Whereas United are in the Barcelona/ Juventus class (or thereabouts) - a blip or two in a transition phase might diminish that aggregate historical status a bit, but calls for a terminal decline are premature - just like they were with those clubs when they suffered in the early 2000s/ post Calciopoli respectively. Whether he eventually moves (to United, or somewhere else) remains to be seen, and maybe he'll be a lifer for Tottenham (who knows?) - but the fact remains that once United get their house in order, we'll be an extremely attractive proposition - regardless of new stadiums and whatnot (it's still not an Old Trafford or Santiago Bernabéu, is it?).

nobody is arguing against that point. The issue is, that at the moment United is not better than Tottenham and there is a lot of uncertainty about next season. Who is going to be the manager? What is the squat going to be? Will this be another year of "transition"?
Someone like Mahrez or Vardy will jump the ship if a big club is knocking on the door, because they can´t be certain, that they´ll get another offer. With Kane that is different. He is the best forward in the EPL at the moment. He´ll get offers every year. Neither the money nor the chance to play for a top club is running away. So why take a risk with United this summer?
 
Better players available for the amount of money that Kane would cost.
 
Step one: sell Memphis.

Why would we do that?

Loads of attacking players have struggled under Van Gaal and Memphis has shown enough flashes to suggest he can be a great player for us under a new coach. Selling an exciting young player, who was one of the best prospects in Europe 12 months ago, after his first year under difficult circumstances, so we can spend 100 million on Harry Kane without a clear idea of how we're going to use him doesn't make sense to me.

We'll still have Martial and Rashford to accommodate. I want every signing we make from now on to have a clear purpose and obvious improvement to our gameplan. No more "Oh he's class - lets offer a hundred mil". If the new coach comes in, has a clear idea of how he wants us to play and thinks there's a gap that Harry Kane could fill in that set up then great, let's go all out for him. But not just because he's good and we want to make a splash - it needs to be smarter than that.
 
I don't know, we have Martial and Rashford and this transfer is one that would piss me off with that tight shit Levy involved.
 
I would rather have Ibrahimovic. Cheaper (even with the big wages factored in), and more importantly, a better player than Kane. There's also the chance that Ibra could be a good mentor to Martial & Rashford.


That being said, Delaney talks bs so I wouldn't take anything from this. With Kane being a top English player, of course we would naturally be interested but dealing with Levy is painful, and Spurs are going to finish above us this season.
 
I would rather have Ibrahimovic. Cheaper (even with the big wages factored in), and more importantly, a better player than Kane. There's also the chance that Ibra could be a good mentor to Martial & Rashford.


That being said, Delaney talks bs so I wouldn't take anything from this. With Kane being a top English player, of course we would naturally be interested but dealing with Levy is painful, and Spurs are going to finish above us this season.
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A 35 year old over a 23 year old

Also ibra is a mentor for nobody
 
nobody is arguing against that point. The issue is, that at the moment United is not better than Tottenham and there is a lot of uncertainty about next season. Who is going to be the manager? What is the squat going to be? Will this be another year of "transition"?
Someone like Mahrez or Vardy will jump the ship if a big club is knocking on the door, because they can´t be certain, that they´ll get another offer. With Kane that is different. He is the best forward in the EPL at the moment. He´ll get offers every year. Neither the money nor the chance to play for a top club is running away. So why take a risk with United this summer?
Oh, I agree on that point mate, hence this post on the first page:
We should be able to get Kane, but maybe not this summer - infact, definitely not this summer because Tottenham will be riding the crest of a wave, and giving it large because the were in the oh so close 'title race', only to be denied by Leicester. The perfect time to target him would be 2017 or 2018 - by then the Tottenham bubble would have burst in all likelihood (Pochettino has been repeatedly linked with Real Madrid - once he goes, they're unlikely to recruit a manager of similar class, especially when the top teams are strengthened), and hopefully - Mourinho would have re-established United as a top club. The new broadcasting deal will make it harder for us to extract marquee English players from top-ish clubs, but if the projected on field success (hypothetical, of course) makes us an enticing destination once more (particularly for British players) - we could then roll out the carpets for the likes of Kane with some gumption.

As things stand, we have to sort out a lot of things in the coming transfer window (and that takes priority rather than chasing Kane), and engaging in protracted negotiations/ mud slinging tactics with Levy would be unwise because he'll either tell us to **** off, or string us along for the whole summer in a manner not too dissimilar to the way wasted Madrid's time last time around for De Gea. Sort the midfield and defense, get some pieces for the attack, and then add some cherries on top - in the form of Kane or Dybala or Griezmann (also unlikely to move this summer) or *insert muppet target - what have you. Right now, transfers of that magnitude might be a season too soon, and I have no confidence in our ability to pull 'em off to be honest. And it'll probably take a near world record deal to sign Kane too - given that Sterling was signed for £49 million, and Kane is a more proven player on a semi-lucrative long term contract.

That said, maybe Mourinho can launch the pre-emptive charm offensive starting this summer, and legally tap him up - like he did with certain players in the past (or like Madrid did with Bale), with one eye on his second season at United - when he would (presumably) launch the bid. Or, this is all guff created the media to generate clicks - can't discount that possibility either.
Our position is definitely going to be quite vulnerable in the summer, and alot of top players (not just Kane) would be wary of joining United from a sporting perspective. The only sentiment I don't agree with is the tendency (of certain posters) to portray United as a club in terminal decline. That part isn't set in stone, yet, and things could change dramatically in the next couple of seasons - starting with a change at the manager's position - and if everything goes per plan, that could lead to bids in maybe 2017 or 2018 (something we both agree on) when we're in a healthier position (presumptive).
 
He will follow Bale to Madrid for a similar fee.
 
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A 35 year old over a 23 year old

Also ibra is a mentor for nobody
I don't see what's funny there. It's a free transfer vs a possible record fee. And the player with the free transfer is the better player, even if its a short term move. Plus Spurs are going to finish above us, we may not even have CL football, and we have to deal with Levy. Those are going to be big obstacles to us getting Kane.

As for the mentor part, I only mentioned it as a possibility. Ibra isn't a great person but for Martial & Rashford playing alongside him, they can learn a lot from him.
 
The first Englishman since 1996 to score 20 or more goals in consecutive seasons in the PL.
 
I don't see Kane leaving Spurs for anybody.
 
Why would Spurs sell? Assuming they're in Europe next year they will look to build a side around Kane, not make the same mistake they made with Bale (although some of those signings worked out eventually.)

You have to be careful. If you spend all summer chasing one player and they don't join you end up panic buying, and more often than not those signings turn out to be poor ones.
 
I would rather have Ibrahimovic. Cheaper (even with the big wages factored in), and more importantly, a better player than Kane. There's also the chance that Ibra could be a good mentor to Martial & Rashford.


That being said, Delaney talks bs so I wouldn't take anything from this. With Kane being a top English player, of course we would naturally be interested but dealing with Levy is painful, and Spurs are going to finish above us this season.
It's quite nonsense, it's almost like to prefer RVPover any young promising striker. Ibra is playing in a great functional team, he would be lost here let alone he would need to start every game, would prefer rashford to him actually who would run three times more and worked for the team rather than try to act like superstar..

Lukaku is easily gettable imo, Lukaku, Rashford, Martial would already look decent, I would also add Griezmann to it, hopefully we will make champions league so he's attainable..
 
It's quite nonsense, it's almost like to prefer RVPover any young promising striker. Ibra is playing in a great functional team, he would be lost here let alone he would need to start every game, would prefer rashford to him actually who would run three times more and worked for the team rather than try to act like superstar..

Lukaku is easily gettable imo, Lukaku, Rashford, Martial would already look decent, I would also add Griezmann to it, hopefully we will make champions league so he's attainable..
So you are using RVP as an example, the man who won us our 20th almost single handedly? Yea, there was so much wrong with that...

Why would Ibra be lost here? Thats just a bs assumption on your part with no evidence to back it up. You want to place an 18 year old kid under that much responsibility? Sounds like something LVG would do.
 
I was thinking the same, the logic of some of our supporters is baffling.
What's baffling to me is people who can't look past a player's age. 35 goals, at least 14 assists in 39 appearances this season. World class technical ability and a winner. The type of player who can put us in title contention by himself. All that for a free transfer vs a likely record fee that it would take to get Kane. Statistically and by reputation, Ibra is easily a better player than Kane and its not even close.


I think the English bias is too strong for some posters here who can't fathom the idea of why someone could prefer Zlatan over Kane, given the circumstances. But I'm not English so I dont have to see it that way.
 
What's baffling to me is people who can't look past a player's age. 35 goals, at least 14 assists in 39 appearances this season. World class technical ability and a winner. The type of player who can put us in title contention by himself. All that for a free transfer vs a likely record fee that it would take to get Kane. Statistically and by reputation, Ibra is easily a better player than Kane and its not even close.


I think the English bias is too strong for some posters here who can't fathom the idea of why someone could prefer Zlatan over Kane, given the circumstances. But I'm not English so I dont have to see it that way.
neither am I but I would prefer one of the best strikers in the league for the next 7-10 years rather than Ibra for one season

Its not hard to work out
 
Should have bought him last summer. Clearly not a one hit wonder as some of the geniuses on here proclaimed and wanted is to avoid buying. Any comments on such geniuses, @Kevin ?

Now he's off limits.
 
I'd like to see Kane in the CL for spurs and in the Euro's before I am 100% sold on his ability to be United's 9 for the next 8 years.

With someone like Auba.. you just know he'd be a threat in any league for any side. With Kane, I do still wonder how he'd fare in a more tactical league or on the continent against the best teams/defences. He has to still prove himself on that front for me.. but no doubt for this league, he's proven himself as a proper talent.
 
neither am I but I would prefer one of the best strikers in the league for the next 7-10 years rather than Ibra for one season

Its not hard to work out
Well, it's not like there is a short window to get Harry Kane. Infact, this summer would probably be the worst time to buy him for us. Spurs will finish above us, and we may not even be in the CL. In a year or two, with an improved team and CL, we would stand a better chance of getting Kane. Kane will be a better player by then and have less years on his contract. It'll be very difficult to get Kane regardless because Levy will not want to sell him to us.

Kane is one of the best strikers in the league but Ibra has been one of the very top strikers in the world for years now. Even at the age of 34, his stats blow away Kane's numbers. He is a better player than Kane and would instantly put us back into title contention, even if we made no other transfers other than Ibra. In addition, playing alongside Ibra would help our young attacking talent.
 
We have two top young strikers with Martial and Rashford. I think we would be better off going for Ibrahimovic as he will add a lot to the team and won't hamper the development of the current striker options. It's not like Kane is an experienced striker, Martial should be given his chance up front instead imo.
 
The other thing with Ibra is he's a leader of men naturally. We miss a player like that. On the other side of the coin you have Kane that has an equal goal return to Aguero since 2014 I believe. Both fantastic players no doubt. Ibra is the short term solution. Kane is the long term.
 
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