Gun control
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http://www.cbs8.com/story/38336437/active-shooter-reported-in-downtown-san-diego-parking-structure
The suspect is in custody.
The suspect is in custody.
How Robert Kennedy's assassination emboldened the NRA for 50 years
After Kennedy’s death, there was a push for better gun control – but the NRA fought back by transforming itself into the political action group it is today
Guardian said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/05/robert-kennedy-assassination-nra-50-years-success
How Robert Kennedy's assassination emboldened the NRA for 50 years
After Kennedy’s death, there was a push for better gun control – but the NRA fought back by transforming itself into the political action group it is today
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/05/robert-kennedy-assassination-nra-50-years-success
Absolutely shocking how timely that cat’s quote in the second paragraph is, feels as though it was could have been written last week.
Somewhere on the internet there are rightwing trolls laughing at the '*****' who spent money on those plates.
It's an incurable sickness.
It's an incurable sickness.
Apparently they're only good against handguns. Pretty useless when many school shootings are done with rifles and in America kids don't tend to carry backpacks around all day due to having lockers. There's a chance the bulletproof plates won't be allowed at their next school either as a few schools have a policy that kids can only have a clear backpack on campus.
What a daft gift. Why didn’t they just give them guns?
A morbid thought I had recently during a faculty meeting where we discussed emergency procedures (because a teacher screwed up a drill.)
Even if what several GOP folks have suggested goes through regarding making the school building itself more secure with guards, metal detectors, etc. we do bomb threat evacuation drills.
In the bomb threat drill we exit the school and head to the football stadium. Every kid has done this drill. If someone called in a bomb threat...
)Even if what several GOP folks have suggested goes through regarding making the school building itself more secure with guards, metal detectors, etc. we do bomb threat evacuation drills.
In the bomb threat drill we exit the school and head to the football stadium. Every kid has done this drill. If someone called in a bomb threat...
‘Merica.
Broken country.
In America, Kindergartens do lockdown drills. Don't want to insults our Yanks. But to me, that sounds like a country without a future.
Ffs... now I’ve got to worry about school shooters going quiet when they rampage down the hall.
The history of the NRA is pretty interesting. For their first 100 years in business they used to be a well respected organization who focused on gun safety and marksmanship. In the 70s, they became highly politicized and have now basically drifted into being a lobbying organization on behalf of gun manufacturers.
Set to the tune of "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star"
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/07/us/muslim-gun-owners-america.html
‘Make Sure Not to
Talk Any Arabic’:
American Muslims
and Their Guns
‘Make Sure Not to
Talk Any Arabic’:
American Muslims
and Their Guns
These kids are heroes.
Don't you think they are still pretty insignificant. What is their membership, something just under 5 million? Hard to believe they have the lobbying power people suggest. Also, you mentioned gun safety, don't they still demand courses for membership.
The bigger issue appears to be the ease with which people can obtain guns illegally or dumb parents who can't take care of the guns in their house.
Love to know what is going to be the resolution to this, like immigration too difficult to address so sitting president will get bashed.
They are small and not *that* rich but incredibly organised - a model for any non-corporate pressure group.
It's somewhere between 3-5 million members (the numbers are murky and there's a discrepancy between what the NRA reports and what 3rd parties are tracking).
The lobbying power comes from the fact that they provide considerable financial support to politicians (nearly all Republicans) who are obviously locked in a never ending fundraising game to remain viable during re-election campaigns. Therefore the NRA's support can be fairly important if the politician in question wants to stay in office. Another way they are relevant is through NRA ratings which each congress person is given relative to how pro-gun friendly they are. In Republican circles, most politicians generally try to avoid being perceived as weak on gun rights, so they are incentivized to be as pro-gun friendly as possible to avoid a challenge from the hard right as well as not be cut off from the aforementioned funding issue.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...pped-spot-argument-self-defense-cops-say.html
What a messed up country.
What a messed up country.
What a messed up entity the Daily Mail is too, the up voted comments are ridiculous.
Hostage situation with a shooter just ended without further incident
Early reports indicate this man had a history of domestic abuse. He shot his grandmother and girlfriend before taking the Trader Joes customers hostage.
How are people convicted of domestic abuse still allowed guns?
Also reports are that it was the hostages that treated the shooter's wounds from a shootout with police and then talked him into surrendering.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-trader-joe-silver-lake-20180721-story.html#
Early reports indicate this man had a history of domestic abuse. He shot his grandmother and girlfriend before taking the Trader Joes customers hostage.
How are people convicted of domestic abuse still allowed guns?
Also reports are that it was the hostages that treated the shooter's wounds from a shootout with police and then talked him into surrendering.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-trader-joe-silver-lake-20180721-story.html#
Amazing how this was a national story. Garcetti (who used to live in Silver Lake) quick to make an appearance on camera.
Amazing how this was a national story. Garcetti (who used to live in Silver Lake) quick to make an appearance on camera.
Yeah he is definitely getting out there for exposure.
I truly believe that the asshole who shot the other guy was always hoping a scenario like what happened would occur while he was strapped. The killer most likely had some sort of erotic release during his murdering of the black guy, the killing had to have felt sexual. I do not see any other need to carry a concealed weapon other than the hopes of being able to use it &, in my fecked-up native home state, being able to kill somebody. The fact that it was a person of color who was killed inevitably made the situation feel all the more sweet to the killer.
I'd definitely own a gun if I lived in the US with all the weirdos you have lurking around.
We are a fecked up country, absolutely no doubt about that.
‘Stand your ground’ laws get so perverted that a person who is pushed down shoot & kill the pusher even when the pusher is turning to walk away. The fact that the shooter can get away with murder only emphasizes how fecked up my country actually is.
DIY 3D-printed guns get go-ahead after Trump administration strikes court deal
From 1 August, thanks to the Trump administration, a commercially available software blueprint will allow people to make their own guns using ABS plastic resin and a 3D printer.
The green light came late last month, with a court settlement between the designer of the blueprint and the US state department. Gun rights advocates celebrated.
In a statement greeting the news, the Second Amendment Foundation founder and executive vice-president, Alan Gottlieb, said: “Not only is this a first amendment victory for free speech, it also is a devastating blow to the gun prohibition lobby.”
Defense Distributed, the company behind the blueprint, declared: “The age of the downloadable gun formally begins.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...t-settlement-trump-administration-cody-wilson
From 1 August, thanks to the Trump administration, a commercially available software blueprint will allow people to make their own guns using ABS plastic resin and a 3D printer.
The green light came late last month, with a court settlement between the designer of the blueprint and the US state department. Gun rights advocates celebrated.
In a statement greeting the news, the Second Amendment Foundation founder and executive vice-president, Alan Gottlieb, said: “Not only is this a first amendment victory for free speech, it also is a devastating blow to the gun prohibition lobby.”
Defense Distributed, the company behind the blueprint, declared: “The age of the downloadable gun formally begins.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...t-settlement-trump-administration-cody-wilson