Maybe they weren't good enough guys?
Gun control
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Maybe they weren't good enough guys?
Damn white people with all those guns killing the world!
You know what would solve this honky genocide? More guns! feck yeah.
They also exchanged fire with the police too , who also didnt even hit them.
Indeed, whilst the two columbine shooters were walking around the library shooting the students there were 50 police officers outside powerless.
The notion that another person with a gun will stop this is provable nonsense.
I don't know Mocks. Quite a few of the security guards in the United States have probably had previous military experience.
Yup, as far as we are concerned, Mugabe is the best person in the world...
Damn, if only every leader was like Mugabe...My post was tongue in cheek and not to be taken literally. It just highlights the prejudice in this thread, where genocide is not just a "White Christian", thing.
Psschh, you can prove anything with facts.
[NRA logic]Maybe the guards at Columbine needed bigger guns?[/NRA logic]
[NBA logic]Maybe the guards at Columbine needed bigger balls?[/NBA logic]
if you have to resort to comments like that you can be certain your argument is moronic.
I don't know Mocks. Quite a few of the security guards in the United States have probably had previous military experience.
Yup, as far as we are concerned, Mugabe is the best person in the world...
My post was tongue in cheek and not to be taken literally. It just highlights the prejudice in this thread, where genocide is not just a "White Christian", thing.
Your post isn't what I was mocking mate
The NRA would like to have an army of George Zimmermans patrolling the schools. MJS likes this.
Give a white devil a knife, and he'll kill his family. Give him an ak-47, and he'll commit genocide.
Christmas, a time for giving, a time for thinking.
Christmas, a time for giving, a time for thinking.
White devil? Is that a team in Blancville?
Being a celebrated poster around these parts actually nulls and voids your comment.
Your post isn't what I was mocking mate
I know Red.
The NRA have also proposed a solution for childhood obesity. A McDonald's in every school.
Whoosh
NRA presser. I had a picture of a puppy and a kitten next to the screen just so I didn't go insane by all the bullshit spewed by these spineless fecks.
If you fall for this shit, you fail as a human being. It's simple as that.
If you fall for this shit, you fail as a human being. It's simple as that.
nice derail of a thread by 1999 united....
Are you mental?
If I know first-hand an armed security officer is in the school and I'm still hell-bent on shooting up the place, I'll find that fecker first and put a bullet in his head/chest. The art of surprise - he would have no idea I have a concealed weapon as I walk past him then turn and take him out. Now I have another weapon as I take his/hers.
Furthermore, it's not hard to find other areas of the school to shoot up when the security guard is last spotted in another quadrant/section of the property - easily enough time to kill dozens before the guard can arrive. The NRA's response would be to have additional armed security guards.
It's a ludicrous argument/thought to have armed security guards in schools.
U.S. Shooting Deaths Since Sandy Hook Top 100
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/us-shooting-deaths-sandy-hook_n_2348466.html
alls well in the NRA world.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/us-shooting-deaths-sandy-hook_n_2348466.html
alls well in the NRA world.
its the mindset of gun nutters...
problem with guns...
more guns....
They took Archie Bunker seriously......
Perhaps eliminating gun shows and local merchants would go a long ways to preventing guns ending up in the wrong hands. I have my doubts if a black market dealer/criminal would sell firearms to most of these public shooters, or if the shooter would have the balls to approach a criminal for fear of being robbed/taken out.
Harris and Klebold received two of their weapons purchased by an adult at a gun show with their cash, and another from a pizza-shop employee who most likely bought his through a gun show or dealer.
http://www.vpc.org/studies/wgun990420.htm
James Holmes purchased his weapons through the internet merchants licensed to sell weapons publicly and online.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/james-holmes-weapons-internet_n_1694451.html
Nancy Lazna purchased her guns through similar means. Her son stole them and killed her.
The list goes on.
Harris and Klebold received two of their weapons purchased by an adult at a gun show with their cash, and another from a pizza-shop employee who most likely bought his through a gun show or dealer.
http://www.vpc.org/studies/wgun990420.htm
James Holmes purchased his weapons through the internet merchants licensed to sell weapons publicly and online.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/james-holmes-weapons-internet_n_1694451.html
Nancy Lazna purchased her guns through similar means. Her son stole them and killed her.
The list goes on.
there are basic things we can do to tighten up gun sales.
but there is no political will...at least there has not been so far.
if we do not do something now...we truly are lost.
but there is no political will...at least there has not been so far.
if we do not do something now...we truly are lost.
I had a vision of a Bob Dylan militia, threatening to "go electric, if you don't put your guns away!"
This is from Wiki:
The California approach is an improvement on the free-for-all of some other states. Perhaps it could be a starting point for the next phase of the gun debate. And Feinstein is a California senator.
The California approach is an improvement on the free-for-all of some other states. Perhaps it could be a starting point for the next phase of the gun debate. And Feinstein is a California senator.
I think the proposals will look much like the current gun laws here in CA. Probably with a few modifications. However, I can go into any of a a half dozen gun shops within 25 miles of my house and buy an "assault" rifle. Defining assault rifle will be tough (not saying not to try just pointing out the difficulty). The last ban had things like no flash suppressors (or something) so they kept the rifles the same just removed the flash suppressor, same exact weapon. Clip size was another, good idea but probably not super effective really.
If we're going to have new laws they need to be effective in keeping them out of the hands they're intended to stay out of. Very hard to do.
Are you sure about that? I thought it was Police officer who arrived on the scene who exchanged fire with one of those nut jobs?
Not sure if already posted...
My FB post today...
--Apparently the NRA believes armed security guards would prevent school massacres. Perhaps the NRA should research Columbine - two armed security guards, one of which exchanged fire with Harris but was unable to inflict a wound and stop him, and yet the two killers were able to kill and injure multiple people while the two armed security guards and the dozens of police assembled outside (some armed with assault rifles) were powerless.
'Merica needs more guns. That's the NRA's belief. Not surprisingly it benefits the NRA and the ammunition/gun manufacturers but not the citizens.--
Responses to this post (only two - seems most simply do not want to debate this and/or holiday weekend away).
Guy that voted for Romney and claims media has liberal bias:
"I guess gun and ammo are produced by magic fairies and not Americans who need those jobs."
Religious guy that only claims god when it suits his interests but also talks about fecking various chicks:
"sounds like communist propaganda to get rid of "assault rifles" which actually are sport rifles. an assualt rifle is never single trigger pull single shot a legit assualt rifle hasnt been produced and widlesy avail since like 84 and they sell for 20k + and you have to have a class 3 liscence to have one from ATF. Gun violence peaked in 71 and has been on a decline every year since the most widley used deadly weapon is a basball bat lets ban those as well"
--Apparently the NRA believes armed security guards would prevent school massacres. Perhaps the NRA should research Columbine - two armed security guards, one of which exchanged fire with Harris but was unable to inflict a wound and stop him, and yet the two killers were able to kill and injure multiple people while the two armed security guards and the dozens of police assembled outside (some armed with assault rifles) were powerless.
'Merica needs more guns. That's the NRA's belief. Not surprisingly it benefits the NRA and the ammunition/gun manufacturers but not the citizens.--
Responses to this post (only two - seems most simply do not want to debate this and/or holiday weekend away).
Guy that voted for Romney and claims media has liberal bias:
"I guess gun and ammo are produced by magic fairies and not Americans who need those jobs."
Religious guy that only claims god when it suits his interests but also talks about fecking various chicks:
"sounds like communist propaganda to get rid of "assault rifles" which actually are sport rifles. an assualt rifle is never single trigger pull single shot a legit assualt rifle hasnt been produced and widlesy avail since like 84 and they sell for 20k + and you have to have a class 3 liscence to have one from ATF. Gun violence peaked in 71 and has been on a decline every year since the most widley used deadly weapon is a basball bat lets ban those as well"
Should I watch that video or will it just piss me off?
Definitely watch it.
I've just found myself agreeing with Morgan, my life has just took an unexpected turn.
It is an unbelievably stupid argument.
I like the way America is referred to as a 'civilised society'. Is it civilised to have to have armed teachers in your schools, and militia groups all over? Because that sounds a lot like countries we'd call uncivilised...
I like the way America is referred to as a 'civilised society'. Is it civilised to have to have armed teachers in your schools, and militia groups all over? Because that sounds a lot like countries we'd call uncivilised...
Although I agree with largely agree with Piers Morgan it looks like he has found his home in America, his conduct is highly unprofessional, becoming emotionally charged and calling his guest an idiot, it seems to be the way with many of the news presenters over there.
in fairness, the tosser he's interviewing basically doesn't give a flying feck about the 20 children that died because he and his group refuse to allow the restriction of assault weapons. He then turns it on it's head and claims it's the fact these weapons aren't allowed in schools that is the problem. I imagine he was making up his own figures as he was going along too.
How do you rationally debate with someone so detached from reality? Most people would be rattled by that level of scuminess
How do you rationally debate with someone so detached from reality? Most people would be rattled by that level of scuminess
he also ably demonstrated the other part of the problem, the kid who took his mothers guns was not mentally ill, but evil.
He even said it 'thats the only way to describe him' . And thats why having open gun laws that he suggests is a problem, they refuse to deal with mental health, point blank, half of them, like this fool, even refuse to accept its even a thing, so with open gun laws, it is 100% inevitable someone with mental issues will get a gun and do something similar. Its guaranteed to happen again.
You cannot have so many people with so many problems untreated in the populous AND have open access to guns. At the very least one has to be dealt with, an ideal world would see both.
He wants neither, one presumes hes paid by the gun companies to make sure the guns stay in circulation, and he refuses point blank to accept that healthcare is an issue.
His brain was clearly infected by devils from the underworld, nothing that you can do about that, except blast them with guns.
Yes, it's because we don't allow real news. It's just Jerry Springer where everyone stays seated.